EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp...214.htm&sc=1110 Hit-And-Run Victim Struck by Three Cars By DONNA DE LA CRUZ NEW YORK (AP) - The black car hit her first, striking Natalie Guzman as she tried to cross a Queens street to buy a bag of potato chips. The 18-year-old managed to get to her feet before she was hit again, by a white car. About four minutes later, her friends dove for cover as a black sport utility vehicle hurtled through the 30 mph zone at an estimated 80 mph. Guzman, who could not move, was killed instantly. Police searched for the three hit-and-run drivers Wednesday in the kind of crime that tends to reinforce New Yorkers' reputation as a cold-hearted lot. City Councilman Eric Gioia said the case reminded him of that of Kitty Genovese, who was killed on a Queens street in 1964 while dozens of people watched from their windows and did nothing. ``It shocks the conscience that three separate people would be so callous as to mow someone down and just keep on going,'' Gioia said. Guzman's family contended that she was intentionally killed, saying she had feared for her life since a bar fight two weeks earlier. ``The family thinks her death may have something to do with that fight,'' said neighbor Olimpia Urena, who acted as a translator for Guzman's mother and aunt. The family came from the Dominican Republic. Police said only that they are still investigating all possibilities and looking into whether the drivers even knew they had hit someone. Guzman's life ended Sunday morning, shortly after she left Los Primos Tournament Billiards on Roosevelt Avenue in Corona, Queens, a heavily Hispanic neighborhood about two blocks from the one-bedroom apartment she shared with her 15-month-old daughter, Laritza, and her mother, Miriam Toribio. This stretch of Roosevelt Avenue is home to several bars and social clubs. Urena said Guzman dropped out of high school after becoming pregnant but had recently decided to get her life back on track. ``She said she wanted to make her life normal, she wanted to do something with her life,'' Urena said. ``She was studying to get her GED and after that, she planned to go to LaGuardia Community College.'' Guzman even had a job interview to sell cosmetics lined up this week, Urena added. ``She was a very friendly girl, very helpful,'' Urena said. ``If she saw me with my shopping bags, she would always help me. She didn't deserve what happened to her.'' A witness told police that Guzman had left the pool hall to go to a bodega across the street. The first car, traveling at about 60 to 70 mph, struck Guzman as she attempted to cross the two-lane street, which runs underneath the elevated subway tracks and has cars parked along the sides of the road, the witness said. The second car was also going about 60 to 70 mph, the witness said. As Guzman lay in the street, her friends discovered her and tried to help. They told police they believed she was still breathing. Then the SUV came barreling toward them. Urena said Guzman's family finds it hard to believe that three people could run over her, and none of them would stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 No way this was an accident. If the three drivers are caught, I bet the one in the white vehicle gets a lighter sentence... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Damn... That was no way an accident. Three times? That's cold, calculated homicide. ...damn that's just sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 No way this was an accident. You forgot. It's New York. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 22, 2004 in the kind of crime that tends to reinforce New Yorkers' reputation as a cold-hearted lot. Is that really necessary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Back in the 30's a woman (I want to say her name was Kitty something) was murdered in NY (I think) in an alley over the period of an hour. From what I recall, she was stabbed and left to die, and the dude ran off...Kitty cried out for help, and the people in the apartments told her to "Keep it down!". The dude comes back and stabs her again...and runs off. Kitty cries out again...no one responds to help. The dude finally comes back and finishes her off. I remember this vaguely from middle school 8 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Back in the 30's a woman (I want to say her name was Kitty something) was murdered in NY (I think) in an alley over the period of an hour. From what I recall, she was stabbed and left to die, and the dude ran off...Kitty cried out for help, and the people in the apartments told her to "Keep it down!". The dude comes back and stabs her again...and runs off. Kitty cries out again...no one responds to help. The dude finally comes back and finishes her off. I remember this vaguely from middle school 8 years ago. City Councilman Eric Gioia said the case reminded him of that of Kitty Genovese, who was killed on a Queens street in 1964 while dozens of people watched from their windows and did nothing. Do you have a point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Oh shit. Totally missed that... *Goose bumps* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 What are the odds of getting hit by two black cars and a white car? This is some cold Law and Order type stuff here man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted January 22, 2004 I'm sure there was a purpose to this...Too bizzare to be an accident. Very Fishy here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 I'm sure there was a purpose to this...Too bizzare to be an accident. Very Fishy here... Watch it be a group of rich white boys who thought it would be funny. And if it is, they will SO be free by dinner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Back in the 30's a woman (I want to say her name was Kitty something) was murdered in NY (I think) in an alley over the period of an hour. From what I recall, she was stabbed and left to die, and the dude ran off...Kitty cried out for help, and the people in the apartments told her to "Keep it down!". The dude comes back and stabs her again...and runs off. Kitty cries out again...no one responds to help. The dude finally comes back and finishes her off. I remember this vaguely from middle school 8 years ago. City Councilman Eric Gioia said the case reminded him of that of Kitty Genovese, who was killed on a Queens street in 1964 while dozens of people watched from their windows and did nothing. Do you have a point? Probably that passing responsibility along, and avoiding doing the right thing for the sake of convenience is primarily something found in places like NYC. No way she'd get run over 3 times in a little jerkwater burgh like I live in. Partly because traffic is never that bad, and partly because everyone has a deep-rooted obligation to get in everyone else's business. Still, I'd rather live someplace where average Joe at least has the common decency to call for help while sitting happily in his house and watching from the window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Back in the 30's a woman (I want to say her name was Kitty something) was murdered in NY (I think) in an alley over the period of an hour. From what I recall, she was stabbed and left to die, and the dude ran off...Kitty cried out for help, and the people in the apartments told her to "Keep it down!". The dude comes back and stabs her again...and runs off. Kitty cries out again...no one responds to help. The dude finally comes back and finishes her off. I remember this vaguely from middle school 8 years ago. City Councilman Eric Gioia said the case reminded him of that of Kitty Genovese, who was killed on a Queens street in 1964 while dozens of people watched from their windows and did nothing. Do you have a point? Probably that passing responsibility along, and avoiding doing the right thing for the sake of convenience is primarily something found in places like NYC Yeah, that's it. In fact, bets are placed to see how many cars would go by before some sap stopped it. Asshole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2004 City Councilman Eric Gioia said the case reminded him of that of Kitty Genovese, who was killed on a Queens street in 1964 while dozens of people watched from their windows and did nothing. Not to get off topic, but this case was mentioned during the opening scene of the Boondock Saints. I honestly thought that it was just a piece of fiction written for the film, but I guess it was true. The actual accident reminds me of Meet Joe Black where Brad Pitt is hit by multiple cars as he crosses the street. The fact that none of the cars slowed down at all definitely makes it seem very fishy. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 22, 2004 The actual accident reminds me of Meet Joe Black where Brad Pitt is hit by multiple cars as he crosses the street. Well thanks for ruining that movie for me Dames *storms out of thread...gets hit by numerous cars as he's crossing over to other threads* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
