haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Hardcore Holly in trouble... A lot of people backstage in WWE are pointing the finger right at Hardcore Holly for the injury Matt Morgan suffered at the Smackdown house show a few days ago. Morgan was unable to get back to his feet after a stiff clothesline from Holly. Holly has had the reputation of working stiff and trying to be a "bully" to younger talent for years. Many wrestlers took great pleasure in seeing Fit Finley attack Holly in a stiff manner during the recent pull apart brawl on Smackdown. Credit: 1wrestling.com/411 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Did Bob try to stiff one of the ladies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Did Bob try to stiff one of the ladies? Heh, would you really trust Bob Holly with ladies though? Especially ones on Smackdown... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Many wrestlers took great pleasure in seeing Fit Finley attack Holly in a stiff manner during the recent pull apart brawl on Smackdown. I know I had a good laugh when I saw that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 As did I. I was pissed they cut away so fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Did Bob try to stiff one of the ladies? Heh, would you really trust Bob Holly with ladies though? Especially ones on Smackdown... *hopes Torrie gets turned heel and is put in a mixed tag match with Holly* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Andrew's obsession with seeing Torrie endure great physical pain is disturbing. You need help, friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Andrew's obsession with seeing Torrie endure great physical pain is disturbing. You need help, friend. Oh come on, you know I'm joking. I wouldn't want to see her *really* get hurt. However, if a saline implant gets popped it'd delay the Playboy crap. However, I think it's time WWE teaches Holly that "injuring somebody" shouldn't get you a push. They've already pushed him and Show for injuring someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Andrew's obsession with seeing Torrie endure great physical pain is disturbing. You need help, friend. Oh come on, you know I'm joking. I wouldn't want to see her *really* get hurt. However, if a saline implant gets popped it'd delay the Playboy crap. However, I think it's time WWE teaches Holly that "injuring somebody" shouldn't get you a push. They've already pushed him and Show for injuring someone. I'm joking too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 When Big Show injured Rey that was an accident. Hell, these guys should feel lucky Big Show does know his own strenth and he's not killing them in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 When Big Show injured Rey that was an accident. Hell, these guys should feel lucky Big Show does know his own strenth and he's not killing them in the ring. I was referring to when Big Show hurt Brock, and then they put the belt on Show. I forgot about *that* incident, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 29, 2004 To be fair to Show, how much experience can one have SWINGING A MAN LIKE A BASEBALL BAT? And what was he supposed to do afterwards? Put him down gently after he tried to kill him? It was an ill concieved stunt, that shouldn't have been done in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted January 29, 2004 I was referring to when Big Show hurt Brock, and then they put the belt on Show. I forgot about *that* incident, though. Yeah but then Brock smashed the crap out his arm with a chair so it all evened out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 To be fair to Show, how much experience can one have SWINGING A MAN LIKE A BASEBALL BAT? And what was he supposed to do afterwards? Put him down gently after he tried to kill him? It was an ill concieved stunt, that shouldn't have been done in the first place. Show absolutely could have protected Rey with that spot. Show let go of the stretcher by the time it hit the post, leaving Rey to fall unguided to the floor. Show should have held on long enough to guide it down back-first before he let go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted January 29, 2004 To be fair to Show, how much experience can one have SWINGING A MAN LIKE A BASEBALL BAT? And what was he supposed to do afterwards? Put him down gently after he tried to kill him? It was an ill concieved stunt, that shouldn't have been done in the first place. Show absolutely could have protected Rey with that spot. Show let go of the stretcher by the time it hit the post, leaving Rey to fall unguided to the floor. Show should have held on long enough to guide it down back-first before he let go. Again, this seems like something that should be covered by whoever engineered the spot in the first place. It was kind of a first time thing for all involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Show should have enough sense to realize throwing Rey into a ring post without providing any guidance would be a potentially bad idea, especially since Rey was strapped down and couldn't adequately protect himself. WAs it an ill-conceived spot? Yes. But Show still should have used common sense in the execution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted January 29, 2004 I was wondering why Fit kinda threw Holly like that. This whole situation kills me. Why was he pushed in the first place? Holly is terrible and hopefully he gets released real soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted January 29, 2004 It always looked to me that Show's grip was just shocked loose when Rey hit the pole, but I could be very, very wrong. It just strikes me as entirely possible that swinging a two hundred pound stick at a solid object would be pretty hard to control. I'm with Zsasz on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Why was he pushed in the first place? Tenure? The revenge storyline made sense until they brought the title into it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted January 29, 2004 How would Show come off as a monster being reckless, which was the point of the spot, by hitting him into the pole and then guiding him down so he didn't get hurt? It's just not a spot you do without making sure you can get it to work with out hurting someone, thats where the whole ill-conceived part. Considering he was going into a main event program and it really worked the angle they wanted to, not to mention Rey is alright now, I think it's better it happened the way it did. But again, I do not run a fed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Show should have enough sense to realize throwing Rey into a ring post without providing any guidance would be a potentially bad idea, especially since Rey was strapped down and couldn't adequately protect himself. WAs it an ill-conceived spot? Yes. But Show still should have used common sense in the execution. Rey should have had enough sense to say he wouldn't do that spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Why was he pushed in the first place? Tenure? The revenge storyline made sense until they brought the title into it? Meh, it was mediocre at best. Holly was never a viable contender for the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 How would Show come off as a monster being reckless, which was the point of the spot, by hitting him into the pole and then guiding him down so he didn't get hurt? It's just not a spot you do without making sure you can get it to work with out hurting someone, thats where the whole ill-conceived part. Considering he was going into a main event program and it really worked the angle they wanted to, not to mention Rey is alright now, I think it's better it happened the way it did. But again, I do not run a fed. But it could of been a lot worse. Rey was lucky that he only came out with the injuries he did. It wasn't nessesary at all. He could have just chockslamed him through a table, and it would have had the same effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Why was he pushed in the first place? Tenure? The revenge storyline made sense until they brought the title into it? Meh, it was mediocre at best. Holly was never a viable contender for the title. I don't agree with it, it's just that those are the best I can come up with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Anyone have a vidcap of the Finlay thing mentioned? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Oh they just took advantage of an injury comeback for once instead of just bringing the guy back and ignoring it. Granted it should have been blown off in a quarter of the time, but ... well there isn't a whole lot of but there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2004 It always looked to me that Show's grip was just shocked loose when Rey hit the pole, but I could be very, very wrong. It just strikes me as entirely possible that swinging a two hundred pound stick at a solid object would be pretty hard to control. I'm with Zsasz on this one. This same argument cropped up right after the incident happened, so I made a point to watch the footage pretty closely when they showed replays. It was pretty clear that Show had already let go of Rey before Rey made contact w/ the post. How would Show come off as a monster being reckless, which was the point of the spot, by hitting him into the pole and then guiding him down so he didn't get hurt? So, if you're being pushed as a monster, you can be as reckless as you want? That's ridiculous. What's one of the 1st things wrestlers learn? Always protect your opponent, especially when you've got him in the air. And I'm not saying he had to hold onto Rey until he made contact w/ the floor. Hold on just long enough so the stretcher is in a position to fall back-first, then let go. As it was, Rey pitched over so he was heading down head/face first with virtually no way to protect himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Eh fuck your opponent, your supposed to be beating eachother up. You just need better planning, something that'll look good without the chance of potential injury. I say the problem was the choice of the spot, not how Big Show handled it. If he just kind of banged him on the pole and then helped him down a bit it would of look dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted January 29, 2004 Punishment for Holly = make him shower with Bradshaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
