Guest jpclemmons Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 =TheMikeSC,Feb 4 2004, 04:15 PM America is "retarded" because we don't like soccer? Why? We have different tastes. I don't call the rest of the world retarded for not loving football. That's their tastes. Soccer does not work here. It is tedious to watch and even more tedious to play. An abomination of a sport. -=Mike I wouldn't call the match I watched tonight(Manchester City coming back from a 3 goal deficet with a player sent off to win 4-3) tedious and boring. But then again, different strokes for different folks.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 Any team sport is homoerotic due to the shower. I like sports where people hurting each other is the purpose, like boxing, and a slight (but increasing) interest in MMA. Always been a bigger fan of individual sports, too. Jumping REALLY far with a running start, and throwing objects a long distance impresses me, as does lifting insanely heavy objects, or propelling oneself down an icy tube at breakneck speed. I couldn't name too many track and field athletes, but those are sports where the achievements matter more than the athlete, I think. As for other sports, I'm marginally interested in baseball, as I like the Cubs and Yankees, and no one else. NCAA basketball can tug my sack, as they don't have a fraction of the skill of the pissy arrogant pros. I feel the same way about football, and mainly love the NFL because I grew up with it, I think. It's not hard to see why people think it's boring, though. I have a morbid fascination with curling, and scottish traditional sports involving logs and stones.
Spaceman Spiff Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 Curling owns. I can't wait until the next Winter Olympics.
Damaramu Posted February 5, 2004 Author Report Posted February 5, 2004 Curling? Yeah I just don't understand that sport......
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 Oh, I don't have the FOGGIEST idea about any aspect of the game, but watching those canucks zip right along, sweeping the ice with brooms, is mesmerizing. It's kind of like shuffleboard, to my understanding.
Anorak Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 =TheMikeSC,Feb 4 2004, 04:15 PM America is "retarded" because we don't like soccer? Why? We have different tastes. I don't call the rest of the world retarded for not loving football. That's their tastes. Soccer does not work here. It is tedious to watch and even more tedious to play. An abomination of a sport. -=Mike I wouldn't call the match I watched tonight(Manchester City coming back from a 3 goal deficet with a player sent off to win 4-3) tedious and boring. But then again, different strokes for different folks. That was an amazing game, the FA Cup is the best club knockout competition in the world by a mile.
Insane Bump Machine Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 That was an amazing game, the FA Cup is the best club knockout competition in the world by a mile. eh, the DFB cup here in Germany is up there as well. Bremen had an awesome game against a team from the second division (Furth) two days ago. It was 1-1 until Furth scored in minute 81. Shortly after a Bremen player gets sent off with red for a harsh tackle. Bremen proceeded to score two goals in injury time to win the game. Great stuff.
Anorak Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 Bremen are top aren't they? I'm not very familiar with their squad to be honest but it would be nice to see somebody other than Bayern or Dortmund win it. Seriously though, you know the FA Cup is the best!
caboose Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 For all the Soccer haters, I accept that you don't get it or really want to get it, but when you have been brought up on it, nothing else compares.
Insane Bump Machine Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 Bremen are top aren't they? I'm not very familiar with their squad to be honest but it would be nice to see somebody other than Bayern or Dortmund win it. Seriously though, you know the FA Cup is the best! Bremen is on top right now, yes. My Bayern Munich is playing awful right now and Dortmund has big money problems and can be lucky if they get to be in the UEFA cup next year. So Bremen's chances are very good this year, they have a great squad. But most of their important players will not be there anymore after this season. Maybe you know their central midfielder Johan Micoud, he's a French international but mostly has to play second fiddle to Zidane there. He's awesome. And their forward Ailton has already scored 18 goals in 18 games this season and would be playing for Brazil if they didn't have their heads up their asses. Yes, the FA cup is still a bit more awesome because of its big tradition and I really love the atmosphere in English arenas.
Anorak Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 =TheMikeSC,Feb 4 2004, 04:15 PM America is "retarded" because we don't like soccer? Why? We have different tastes. I don't call the rest of the world retarded for not loving football. That's their tastes. Soccer does not work here. It is tedious to watch and even more tedious to play. An abomination of a sport. -=Mike I can't fathom how proper football is more tedious to play than something like American Football (a 60 minute game shouldn't last longer than a wrestling PPV IMO) or Baseball. There's absolutely no flow to those games whatsoever but I wouldn't call either of them an abomination of a sport because hey, we all have our own tastes right? I've never followed Baseketball or Ice Hockey but I can at least see the appeal based on the fast end to end nature of them.
Anorak Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 Bremen are top aren't they? I'm not very familiar with their squad to be honest but it would be nice to see somebody other than Bayern or Dortmund win it. Seriously though, you know the FA Cup is the best! Bremen is on top right now, yes. My Bayern Munich is playing awful right now and Dortmund has big money problems and can be lucky if they get to be in the UEFA cup next year. So Bremen's chances are very good this year, they have a great squad. But most of their important players will not be there anymore after this season. Maybe you know their central midfielder Johan Micoud, he's a French international but mostly has to play second fiddle to Zidane there. He's awesome. And their forward Ailton has already scored 18 goals in 18 games this season and would be playing for Brazil if they didn't have their heads up their asses. Yes, the FA cup is still a bit more awesome because of its big tradition and I really love the atmosphere in English arenas. I didn't know Micoud was playing for them, he's a skilful player. I heard Dortmund have terrible injury problems as well as financial struggles. One thing I notice about Germany is how good the attendances are every week. I'm sure Bayern will come good again sooner rather than later, at least you don't support Leicester City like me. In fact, Bayern is still 100 times better than most teams other posters here support, checkout the div 1 football thread for proof.
Insane Bump Machine Posted February 5, 2004 Report Posted February 5, 2004 Yeah, the attendances are crazy sometimes. Dortmund are 9th right now and still draw 83 000 fans every week. I don't support Bayern just because they are successful btw, I live only an hour drive away from Munich so it was a natural thing to support them. But I also root for my hometown squad SSV Jahn Regensburg, who just advanced to the second division this year for the first time since about 30 years ago. Bayern plays against Real Madrid in the CL next round, hopefully they get their act together. I don't even know where Leicester is My favorite premier league team is Liverpool. Don't know why exactly, but Hamann playing there definitely helps
Slayer Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 I'm probably one of the very few Americans who enjoys world football (i.e. soccer), especially watching with foreign friends who help me get into it much more For example, the other day at work when they had on a Man-U game (against SouthHampton, dunno when it actually happened, but it was aired on Tues afternoon), I watched it with some of my Indian co-workers, and we were all into it, especially when the crowd shouts/sings in full unison... something you don't hear in US sports (at least, not without the word "sucks" in it)
Spaceman Spiff Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Oh, I don't have the FOGGIEST idea about any aspect of the game, but watching those canucks zip right along, sweeping the ice with brooms, is mesmerizing. It's kind of like shuffleboard, to my understanding. Basics Scoring Per End, only one team can score. Only this stones can be counted that are in the house. (or touch the edge of the house) A team receives a point for every stone that is nearer the center than any other stone from the opponent team (refer to images below). The two Skips decide this only with the help of their eyes. If they can not distinguish which stone is closer, they can use a measuring device. If also the measuring device does not bring a decide nobody receives a point.
Kahran Ramsus Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Curling is hard to get into, but once you start watching it for awhile it becomes addicting.
treble Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Personally, I can't really watch Curling until the later ends when there's some drama building. It's always especially interesting watching the strategy they employ and whether or not it works out.
Red Baron Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Curling is a friggin amazing game to play, and its pretty difficult at first.
ant_7000 Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Face it Soccer sucks I hate when media force it down my throat, I hated back in High School when the gym teacher would force me to play soccer and Rugby instead of American Football. Someone said in here that U.S Football in 60 minutes, but atleast we know when the game is going to end exactly, not like soccer. The Simpsons espisode when they went to a soccer game pretty much summed up my feelings about the sport.
Red Baron Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Face it Soccer sucks I hate when media force it down my throat, I hated back in High School when the gym teacher would force me to play soccer and Rugby instead of American Football. Someone said in here that U.S Football in 60 minutes, but atleast we know when the game is going to end exactly, not like soccer. The Simpsons espisode when they went to a soccer game pretty much summed up my feelings about the sport. 60 minutes of football= 3+ hours to finish. 90 minutes of soccer= just under 2 hours to finish.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Football's more of a cerebral game, though. You've got two teams of mastermind coaches trying to outwit each other, and the players have to be able to execute the plays. It's balanced like that, which is why I love it. Soccer and Rugby always struck me as being more chaotic and physical, with lots of running and kicking. Boxing will forever be my favorite sport though. Two guys, proving who's better with the simplest means available. It takes a great mind, as well as ultimate conditioning, strength, speed, balance, and rhythm to be really good.
Anorak Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Yeah, the attendances are crazy sometimes. Dortmund are 9th right now and still draw 83 000 fans every week. I don't support Bayern just because they are successful btw, I live only an hour drive away from Munich so it was a natural thing to support them. But I also root for my hometown squad SSV Jahn Regensburg, who just advanced to the second division this year for the first time since about 30 years ago. Bayern plays against Real Madrid in the CL next round, hopefully they get their act together. I don't even know where Leicester is My favorite premier league team is Liverpool. Don't know why exactly, but Hamann playing there definitely helps I've always had a soft spot for Liverpool but they have fallen depressingly far behind Arsenal and Man Utd. Alongside Man Utd, they still have a massive worldwide fanbase compared to anybody else due to their illustrious history. Arsenal aren't really a big side anywhere outside of London. Leicester are currently a premiership club but probably wont be at the end of the season, they have always been up and down between the top two divisions. Gordon Banks, Peter Shilton and Gary Lineker are our most famous ex-players. As for the champions League you have to favour Real Madrid but you can bet absolutely nobody will write off Bayern as having no chance. I don't think Man Utd are up to winning it this season unless their defence improves and they get some massive performances from Keane, Scholes, Giggs and Van Nistelrooy.
caboose Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Football's more of a cerebral game, though. You've got two teams of mastermind coaches trying to outwit each other, and the players have to be able to execute the plays. It's balanced like that, which is why I love it. Soccer and Rugby always struck me as being more chaotic and physical, with lots of running and kicking. Soccer (I hate to call it that, but this is a Mostly American board), can be just as cerebral as you put it. Example, Leicester City played Middlesborough in the League Cup Final a few years back, I think it was 1997. Middlesborough's side was full of highly paid and just as highly talented international stars. Leicester however was mostly a team made off hardworking journeyman. However Leicester had one ace in their pack, Sweden's national captain, Pontus Kaamark. Leicester's coach, Martin O'Neill told Kaamark to track Middlesborough's best player, Juninho, up and down the pitch without mercy and basically suffocate him out of the game. Kaamark managed to keep Juninho quiet two games running and with Middlesborough's best player effectively cancelled out, Leicester scraped home the cup in perhaps their greatest moment.
Guest Olympic Slam Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 I find basketball and soccer to both be yawn inducing. Basketball because the pace of the game is slow and there's too much scoring. I tried to watch the last few minutes and the overtime of a Lakers v Cavs game earlier this week; I wanted to scream at the TV it was so boring. Thank god a hockey game was coming on soon. Soccer because nothing happens for the most part. The Simpson's episode sums it up best. The U.S and Canada's disdain for soccer and the world's insane love of it should be a good indicator of why we have the two best countries and the rest of the world is pretty screwed up.
Insane Bump Machine Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 The U.S and Canada's disdain for soccer and the world's insane love of it should be a good indicator of why we have the two best countries and the rest of the world is pretty screwed up.
razazteca Posted February 6, 2004 Report Posted February 6, 2004 Curling? Yeah I just don't understand that sport...... Think Bowling for Canadians, as anybody and everybody could achieve the perfect game.
caboose Posted February 7, 2004 Report Posted February 7, 2004 The U.S and Canada's disdain for soccer and the world's insane love of it should be a good indicator of why we have the two best countries and the rest of the world is pretty screwed up. I don't want to make this a current events issue, but to your rather flippant comment I make an equally retarded comment. America sucks, most of the rest of the world thinks so, and it seems quite a few Americans do too. I've got no beef with Canada. Damn, people ripping FOOTBALL (soccer for you guys across the pond), makes me angry. The thing that annoys me, is that Freddy Adu, the 14 year-old kid that a lot of people are comparing to Diego Maradona, who in my opinion is the greatest of all time, is fricking American. God have mercy! I apologise.
razazteca Posted February 7, 2004 Report Posted February 7, 2004 I think Freddy Adu should be compared to Pele, since you know he is black and is suppose to be the savoir of soccer in USA. I don't think Freddy is a real american since he was not born here, is'nt he from Cameroon or something?
caboose Posted February 7, 2004 Report Posted February 7, 2004 If he's from Cameroon, I'll be very relieved. Considering that Maradona basically had cameras following his every trick from since he was 10, I'd say Adu is more like him. Pele kinda just showed up and stunned and scared the fuck out of everyone. The black thing isn't an issue. But to be fair comparing Adu to either Maradona or Pele is just begging for him to fail. Those kind of comparisons can kill a career before it even gets started.
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