The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 Well...it would be a good pickup because the Bills are finally expected to draft a damn QB this year. It's been so long since they drafted a serious prospect...I don't even know who the last one was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 I've alwyas liked Wyche. Offensive Cordinator for the those outstanding 49er teams, and head coach for the outstanding Bengal teams of the late 80's. One of the first coaches to use the no huddle offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 Brunell-to-Redskins 'an almost-done deal' The Redskins are closing in on a trade to acquire Jaguars quarterback Mark Brunell, several team and NFL sources told ESPN.com. A deal for Brunell could be completed in the coming week if all the components fall into line. Parties to the negotiations were working this weekend to arrange a Monday meeting between Brunell and new Redskins coach Joe Gibbs. Sources said that many of the principal parameters of the trade, which would officially end Brunell's very productive nine-year tenure with the Jaguars, have been completed. They cautioned, however, there are some details on which the teams are still working. One league source termed the swap "an almost-done deal" but one "that's still in the oven." None of the sources would say what Jacksonville will receive as the compensation for parting with a player who defined the quick success of the one-time expansion franchise. Jaguars officials acknowleged privately last week that they have been offered a second-round draft pick for Brunell by an unspecified team. If the deal is completed, it would leave in question the future of Redskins incumbent starter Patrick Ramsey, the two-year veteran who finished the 2003 season on injured reserve with a broken foot. That the 33-year-old Brunell would not return to the Jaguars in 2004 has been essentially known for more than a year. The 11-year veteran, who led Jacksonville to a pair of AFC championship game appearances, sports a salary cap charge of $10.5 million for 2004. That includes a base salary of $6.5 million but, more important, a $2 million roster bonus due on March 1. It has long been a given that the Jaguars would either trade or release Brunell before that signing bonus was due. By dealing Brunell, the team will absorb just a $2 million salary cap charge, for a prorated signing bonus share, and will recoup $8.5 million of cap room. If the deal is completed, Brunell almost certainly will sign a new, multi-year contract with the Redskins. Trade negotiations between the Redskins and Jaguars were accelerated in recent days. It will be left for agent Leigh Steinberg, who represents Brunell, to strike a contract accord with Redskins officials. There were reports during Super Bowl week that the Dolphins would ardently pursue Brunell, either via trade or after he was released, but Redskins officials have been working with great stealth to complete his acquisition. Brunell originally entered the NFL as a fifth-round choice of the Packers in the 1993 draft. After two seasons in Green Bay, where he appeared in just two games and logged only 27 pass attempts, Brunell was traded to Jacksonville in 1995 for third- and fifth-round draft choices. He assumed the Jaguars' starting job shortly into his tenure in Jacksonville and held that spot for eight seasons. In the third game of the 2003 campaign, Brunell suffered an elbow injury, opening the door for rookie Byon Leftwich, the club's first-round draft pick, to supplant him. Brunell never played another snap in a Jags uniform. For his NFL career, he has completed 2,196 of 3,643 passes for 25,793 yards, with 144 touchdown passes, 86 interceptions and an 85.2 efficiency rating. In his three starts last season, he threw for 484 yards and had two touchdown passes and no interceptions. He has started in 117 of his 122 appearances and was named to the AFC Pro Bowl team on three occasions. The former University of Washington standout, of course, holds all of the Jacksonville franchise passing records. Under his stewardship, the Jaguars advanced to the conference title game in 1996 and 1999 but lost both times. Washington had not been mentioned as a potential suitor for Brunell's services but Gibbs might be seeking a more veteran quarterback. Should the Redskins land Brunell, it will be interesting to see what the team does with Ramsey, its first-round choice in the 2002 draft. The former Tulane standout started 11 games in 2003, completing 179 of 337 passes for 2,166 yards. He had 14 touchdown throws, nine interceptions and a passer rating of 75.8. Among the league's most sacked quarterbacks last season, Ramsey earned respect around the NFL for his toughness and grit and his potential is highly-regarded. Ramsey, 24, is under contract through the 2006 season and his salaries and cap charges are not exorbitant, meaning Washington could retain him and allow Brunell, in part, to serve as his mentor. It is difficult to imagine Brunell agreeing to any deal to a team where he did not have assurances of at least competing for the starting job. Steinberg reiterated last week at the Super Bowl that Brunell still believes he can be a starter for several more seasons. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=1729627 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 That is completely retarded. You give Patrick Ramsey some protection and he is going to be a very good QB in this league and not in the future. He can be an impact player immediately. Oh well, makes me happy seeing them waste cap room on him means they can't use it somewhere else where they need it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 I can think of five teams that would benefit from Marc Brunell better then the Redskins. How are they going to groom Ramsey if they're hiring veteran QBs each year? I mean hiring one his rookie year isn't a bad idea but it's his third year. It's do or die time for Ramsey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 It's not a bad deal for the Redskins, if it's only Brunell coming in has a veteran backup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 Anyone else think they are doing this just because they know Dallas wanted him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted February 7, 2004 That is completely retarded. You give Patrick Ramsey some protection and he is going to be a very good QB in this league and not in the future. He can be an impact player immediately. The man speaks the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted February 7, 2004 The Redskins needed to spend that money on O-linemen or a legit running back. It doesn't matter who you put back there, you'll be carrying them off the field in a bodybag halfway through the season with that line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 Well...it would be a good pickup because the Bills are finally expected to draft a damn QB this year. It's been so long since they drafted a serious prospect...I don't even know who the last one was. Why? If last year was any indication, they need someone to actually catch the ball. Josh Reed isn't it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2004 Rice sent home for disciplinary reasons HONOLULU -- Bucs defensive end Simeon Rice was sent home from the Pro Bowl on Friday night for disciplinary reasons, ESPN's Chris Mortensen has learned. NFC head coach Andy Reid sent Rice home after he arrived two days late to Hawaii, causing him to miss several meetings and practices. Rice will be replaced on the NFC's roster by the Packers' Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila. Rice had another superb season with 15 sacks and two interceptions. An eight-year NFL veteran, Rice has not missed a regular-season game for the Bucs since joining them before the 2001-2002 season. Gbaja-Biamila, a four-year veteran, had 10 sacks for the Packers last season. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1729767 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2004 I read an article this past week that said Brunell was likely going to end up in Miami. Now I read this? Aw, man. If he wants to be a starter, why go to Washington? Miami would make more sense, since he'd be a lot more likely to unseat Fiedler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2004 Well...it would be a good pickup because the Bills are finally expected to draft a damn QB this year. It's been so long since they drafted a serious prospect...I don't even know who the last one was. Why? If last year was any indication, they need someone to actually catch the ball. Josh Reed isn't it. After Moulds got hurt...Reed never dropped a ball. He was their most dependable reciever down the stretch...and then they stopped looking for him. He was only in his second year...and his stats for his first 2 years are better than what Peerless Price was doing his first two years. Hell...it was very nearly better than what Price did last year as a #1. Bledsoe hasn't hit an open man since the game against the Giants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 9, 2004 Patriots declined to pick up the option on Antwoin Smith, thus he's a free agent. Prett much expected but now its official. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 *watches as no one picks him up until the last month of the year when he finally starts playing* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
converge241 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 im surprised pats waited til' the last hour pretty much to officialy decline as they only had 7 days after the season ended on fwb 1st..thought for sure they would have done it the day after the parade bring on the RB of the future in the draft for the hometown team..hope its jones or perry..could live with jackson too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
converge241 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 btw i dont get that brunell to skins thing at all i mean yeah sure snyder will probably offer more cash but if i were him id want to start while he still has playing years left..id take less cash to play in a dallas or miami where i could start speaking of miami it's hard to believe the rumor that they are the one team willing to part with a 1st rounder to the texans for Henson (because they are pretty sure they can get another 1st round pick from RFA Ogunlye)...Miami is easily my most hated team so more power to them if they want to hitch their wagon to henson but man they are shooting themselves in the foot if they do that Packers would be a good fit for Henson cause he would have some solid no pressure time to re-acclimate himself to football Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 Why would Miami just let Ogunleye go? I could see if they couldn't match the money, but he's young & led the team in sacks. They'd be crazy to let him walk just to get a later 1st round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
converge241 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 he just isnt a priority for them just about everyone who has talked about the miami cap situation says its a lock that they will part with him for the pick..the dolphins arent so bright sometimes they should keep as much of that D together as possible if they want to succeed..look at fielder as another bad miami example the guy isnt flashy but he is a winner yet they always want another qb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 I love Fiedler, and he is a leader on the team, but if they can upgrade, I'm all for it (i.e. Brunell is he doesn't go to Washington). Fiedler is good enough for the reg. season, and maybe a playoff game, but I don't have faith in him to get to a SB. He's got a tendency to throw a pick at bad times. If Ogunleye leaves because Miami can't match an offer, OK. Hopefully they'll make ever effort to keep him, and not just let h im walk without trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 PITTSBURGH -- Heisman Trophy runner-up Larry Fitzgerald will enter the NFL draft and not return to Pittsburgh for his junior year. Fitzgerald made the announcement Monday, four days after he was declared eligible by the NFL for the draft. The record-setting receiver is the top-ranked prospect in the nation at his position, according to ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. In his latest draft projections, Kiper believes Fitzgerald could be the No. 2 player taken overall, by the Raiders, behind Ole Miss quarterback Eli Manning (San Diego Chargers). Fitzgerald left the Academy of Holy Angels in Richfield, Minn., midway through his senior year in 2001 and transferred to Valley Forge (Pa.) Military Academy to boost his grades for college. The NFL cleared the way for Fitzgerald to enter the April draft because he is three years past his senior year of high school. The league's decision on Fitzgerald came on the same day a federal judge ruled running back Maurice Clarett could also turn pro despite playing only one season at Ohio State. In that ruling last Thursday, the judge said NFL rules regarding its draft violate federal antitrust laws. The ruling overturned the league's rule barring players from being eligible for the draft before they were out of high school for three years. Fitzgerald understands some will doubt whether he can compete in the NFL. "I'm very confident in my ability," he said. "I know there's going to be skeptics and there's going to be people out there criticizing this and criticizing that, but all-in-all I know I can play the game of football." The 20-year-old Fitzgerald was a dominating receiver for the Panthers last season. He finished a close second to Oklahoma quarterback Jason White in voting for the Heisman, nearly becoming the first sophomore to win the award. He was the most proficient receiver in Pittsburgh history with an NCAA-record 34 touchdown catches in his freshman and sophomore years. Fitzgerald also holds the NCAA record for touchdown receptions in 18 consecutive games. That streak ended in the Continental Tire Bowl. In 2003, Fitzgerald caught 87 passes and led all NCAA receivers with 1,595 yards. He had 22 touchdown catches, at least one in each of Pitt's regular season games. He played in all 13 games as a freshman and became a starter in his third game. In 2002, he had 69 receptions for 1,005 yards, easily surpassing Antonio Bryant, who caught 51 passes for 844 yards as a freshman in 1999. He also broke a 22-year-old record with 12 touchdown catches, beating Dwight Collins' record of 10 TD catches in 1980. Fitzgerald finished 128 votes behind White in the race for the Heisman. He did win the Biletnikoff Trophy, awarded to college football's top receiver, last season and the Walter Camp Award as the nation's best player. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1730945 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2004 First off, Burnell would not be coming in to be a back-up unless you think the Redskins could convince him to lower his 9 million dollar contract down to the league minimum. Whoever grabs him will use him as a starter but they shouldn't trade a second round pick for him. Jacksonville HAS to deal him, they are over a barrel. As for the Bills needing receivers, you can find some good receivers later than sooner. Second and third round is WR country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 I agree, the only two WR's worth taking at the Bills pick would be Fitzgerald or Roy Williams (both probably gone). Buffalo could probably pick up a Rashun Woods or Lee Evans from their secpnd round spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Dr. Z rates the announce teams. SI.Com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaMarka 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 Ok, why does everyone love Drew Henson so much? I was reading an article at cnnsi, and the columnist thinks Henson can turn around the Raiders. What's so great about a failed baseball players? Chad Hutchinson did the "fail baseball -> become a QB" thing, and no one orgasmed over him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2004 While it remains to be seen what Henson does. He was considered a 1st round lock two seasons ago. Possibily even the first overall pick. He's got all the tools teams look for. A perfect fit for Henson would be Green Bay. Favre plays another 2 years, Henson get his game back into form. Than he takes over has QB, if everything works out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Redskins allow Bailey to see a trade In a stunning move that certainly grabbed the attention of league general managers on an otherwise serene Friday afternoon, the Washington Redskins have granted four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey permission to initiate trade discussions with other franchises, ESPN.com has learned. Reale said he spoke to "seven or eight" teams Friday after receiving a call Thursday night from Redskins owner Dan Snyder, who agreed that Bailey can speak to other clubs. "I think they're curious to see what the interest level is," Reale said. Bailey, 25, just finished the final season of his original NFL contract and technically is eligible for unrestricted free agency, although the Redskins could limit his options. The move could signal an impasse in negotiations, aimed at extending the contract of the five-year veteran and four-time Pro Bowl performer, or it might reflect any number of potential scenarios. Among them: The team could attempt to obtain draft choices to use in acquiring quarterback Mark Brunell from the Jacksonville Jaguars. Or, having recently signed strong-side linebacker LaVar Arrington to a blockbuster contract, the Redskins may have decided they cannot afford to have two such highly paid defenders. Arrington on Dec. 28 signed an eight-year contract worth $60 million-$68 million, including a signing bonus of $15.5 million and option bonus of $4.5 million. Even when players are granted permission to speak with other teams, trades are rarely consummated, and the Redskins reserve the prerogative to reject any offers. But the fact Snyder would put a player of Bailey's stature on the trade block certainly sent ripples through the NFL. "My first reaction," said one AFC general manager, "was that it was a joke. Once I found out it was [legitimate], I mean, how could I ignore it? The guy is only 25 years old, is a bona fide star in the league, and plays a 'must have' position. You've got to at least find out the price of doing business." Snyder already had raised the possibility with other NFL owners of trading his star cornerback. He casually mentioned to Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank, for instance, that Bailey might be available for the right price. Redskins chief negotiator Eric Schaffer huddled with Reale in Atlanta early this week and essentially made an offer similar to the team's proposal to Bailey during training camp last summer. That proposal was reportedly for a nine-year contract worth about $55 million and featuring total bonus money of approximately $14 million. It was rejected by Bailey and Reale and, sources said, was no better received this time around. Reale said Snyder "made it very clear that the coaching staff considers Champ an elite player" but that the two sides "simply disagree" over the parameters of a long-term contract. It will not be surprising, given new events, if Reale is a very popular man next week, when general managers and even some owners convene in Indianapolis for the annual NFL Scouting Combine workouts. The Redskins still reserve the right to designate Bailey as a "franchise" player, a move that would significantly limit his mobility in the free-agency period, which begins March 3. And if Washington cannot strike an extension with Bailey, or receive a trade offer it considers viable, using the "franchise" tag is the strongest likelihood. But the "franchise" designation for a cornerback carries a $6.801 million impact against the Washington salary cap and the Redskins probably would be forced to carry that late into the summer. Historically, at least, applying a "franchise" designation often creates acrimony between team and player. Or, if the "franchise" tag is exercised, Bailey could quickly accept the guaranteed money, decline any attempts to sign a subsequent long-term deal, and force Snyder to carry a very unwieldy cap number on the cornerback for 2004. The player chosen seventh overall in the 1999 draft, and universally acknowledged as one of the NFL's premier players at one of its highest-profile positions, Bailey was elected to the Pro Bowl each of the past four seasons. The former University of Georgia star has never missed a game in five seasons, making 80 straight appearances. Bailey has recorded 313 tackles and 18 interceptions during his career and most talent evaluators agree he fits the term "shut-down cornerback." http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=1734533 WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Joe Gibbs comes in and the first two things he does player wise is piss off his really good young QB and let one of his two franchise players seek a trade. WOO!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 I got disappointed when I saw that story. First I got my hopes all up, considering Reid loves CBs and he would make a run at Bailey, I'd imagine. Then I realized there is no chance in hell the Skins will trade him within division, thus making me more disappointed than originally. I am enjoying seeing Gibbs tear apart the actually good players on the team though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted February 15, 2004 I think Bailey wants to play with his brother in Detroit from what I've heard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
