First image from Mortal Kombat Deception!

[AndrewTS 0]

MK Gold isn't an arcade game, though, as far as I know. So if we got a MAT3, they'd probably put MK4 in...and likely UMK3 (which would make you have to enter the codes for the hiddens the same way as with Smoke, and they probably wouldn't save the codes ).

 

I'd recommend the X-Box version unless you really hate the controller (the block/run buttons feel a lot better when they're set to R1/R2, IMO).

 

But--eh, Narc, Rampage World Tour, Total Carnage, Arch Rivals, etc--really, it's hard to gripe overall.

[Anya 0]

Yeah, MK Gold wouldn't be on MAT3, but it SHOULD be on PS2 it some form since it's part of the story.

 

 

The Making of MK3 vid in MAt2 is pretty funny. It's really old though.

 

 

I can't decide which game is funnier: NARC or Pit-Fighter. Both are just too goofy.

 

 

For some reason the PS2 version of PF is insanely fast. It's like Super Pit-Fighter Turbo.

 

 

 

MAT 3 needs: UMK3, MK4, Primal Rage II, War Gods, Mace The Dark Age, Rush: The Rock, Rush 2049, Artic Thunder, Hydro Thunder, Carnevil, and The Grid.

[AndrewTS 0]

"MAT 3 needs: UMK3, MK4, Primal Rage II, War Gods, Mace The Dark Age, Rush: The Rock, Rush 2049, Artic Thunder, Hydro Thunder, Carnevil, and The Grid."

 

...with a few exceptions, that'd be kinda lame. You forgot STUN RUNNER, though.

 

As much as Carnevil would be cool to play at home, it seems Midway has kinda shot their wads with the Treasures thing unless they forked out for the ridiculous licensing fees to use stuff like NBA Jam/NFL Blitz in a compilation.

 

War Gods...*cough*

[Anya 0]

They need old revisions playable too. I really want access to revision 1 of MK4, or better yet, betas. Never going to happen though.

 

 

War Gods is awesomeness. Kabuki Jo should be in the next Capcom dream match game.

 

 

A couple weeks ago I saw a War Gods machine for sale. I kind of wanted it, except it was a conversion and not dedicated. I wonder if I could install a WG pcb into my MK4...that would be kinda cool....

[Use Your Illusion 0]

I actually considered that when Noob first appeared in a game. Coolness. You'd think he would use some of Sub-Zero's special moves, though.

Possibly the individual in question's trip to the depths altered or had some form of impact on his powers. While we've only ever seen Scorp in his current incarnation from Hell, I doubt he'd of had the abilities he has now when he was alive, so it could probably be explained quite easily why Noob no longer has the ability to freeze people or any other move he used in the first MK game. A *really* cool little storyline revelation though.

[Anya 0]

In MK Mythologies you fight the human Scorpion. You actually like control the point where he is killed.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Does he have any of the abilities he has in his demon form?

[Anya 0]

No. He has no special attacks at all.

 

 

Also....

 

Noob does Sub-Zero's freeze and shatter fatality in MK4 if you set it to one button fatalities....

[Use Your Illusion 0]

I'm astonished someone has actually sat down and fought through Mythologies. Granted, all I played it on was the N64. It was the worst 10 minutes of my life.

[Anya 0]

I've beaten it probably 6 times on PSX and once on N64.

 

It's ok. MK Special Forces is a LOT worse. I could only beat that once.

[AndrewTS 0]

War Gods is awesomeness. Kabuki Jo should be in the next Capcom dream match game.

Midway vs. Capcom--now there's a game people would wanna see.

 

"Hmm...Kabuki Joe...how should we do his sprite?"

 

"Do the sprite? We don't 'do' new sprites these days. Take that Kubuki guy from Samurai Showdown and retouch him a bit."

 

"OOOOH!~"

 

I'm astonished someone has actually sat down and fought through Mythologies.

 

Ditto. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE IT!! The best part about it is the FMVs, and I suppose the N64 one didn't even have that.

 

Although I had fun decimating a friend today at MK1 and showing him the ropes of Deception.

 

Are there any video bios like the ones on the bonus disc for newer fighters like Li Mei? Only a select few newer characters (Shujinko) get them.

 

Too bad they didn't get comments from folks like Lia Montangelo (sp?) or Shao Kahn himself (Baby-Face Brian Glynn).

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Anyone know why the Mortal Kombat poster in the MK3 video on MAT2 (since, evidentally, this is the MAT2 discussion thread as well as MK:D thread) is blurred? I also found out I'm really, really bad against the computer in MK2 in an arcade perfect translation (I remember being a passable player back on the SNES). It's pretty neat to see the arcade versions fully reproduced as far as getting an ad for the MK Movie at the MK3 game over screen and the high score (win streak) list containing old Midway arcade licences (WWF!)

[Anya 0]

No, there's no Li Mei bio. IGN had a few bios that aren't in the game(like Hotaru, Darrius, Kira and Ashrah) but not Li.

 

 

I want to see more of the actors too. It's really lame when they like, pretend to do moves. Or John Parrish saying "I am...JAX!".

[AndrewTS 0]

Anyone know why the Mortal Kombat poster in the MK3 video on MAT2 (since, evidentally, this is the MAT2 discussion thread as well as MK:D thread) is blurred?

Well, this had LONG been the unofficial OAO MK thread, ever since people had chimed in with bits and pieces of MK nostalgia, and Anya had been extremely willing to answer on their behalf.

 

The poster thing stumps me and I don't think Anya knows, either, though.

 

I want to see more of the actors too. It's really lame when they like, pretend to do moves. Or John Parrish saying "I am...JAX!".

 

Heheh, yeah. The video bios were quite cool as well. Those and the "classic" characters in MK Trilogy sort of let you know which of the MK actors they're still on good terms with.

 

The Johnny Cage thing confused me a bit, because I'd think Carlos and Dan would be related and probably they'd have been friends with the crew.

 

However, I saw a rumor on a MB...

 

It's because the guy who played him and the ninjas in MK and MKII, Daniel Pesina, made the monumentally stupid mistake of posing for an ad for the game Bloodstorm in his Johnny Cage costume. The ad's caption even said, "Even MK's Johnny Cage prefers Bloodstorm!"

 

Weirdly enough, his relative Carlos (don't remember if he's Daniel's cousin or brother) contributed so much to the series (he played Raiden in MK1-MKT and did much of the motion capture work for MKA) that the MK team made Mokap to honor the work he did.

 

on a related note...

 

It was Katalin Zamiar (MKII Jade, Kitana, and Mileena), Elizabeth Malecki (MK1 Sonya), and Philip Ahn M.D. (MKII Shang Tsung). They sued Midway because they felt they were entitled to more money because their likenesses were used in the home versions as well. The suit was dismissed because the plaintiffs didn't prove their case.

 

(from: http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showthr...t=27655&page=4)

 

Does that all sound about right to you, Anya?

 

I guess these versions (MKD MK1, MAT2 MKII) won't thrill them either. You know, after the success of the first MK how could they not figure out that there were going to be home ports?

 

So, when a movie is put on video, does that mean all the actors involved get paid *again*? I'm trying to figure out the precedent.

 

http://drkbish.darquecathedral.org/images/MKDA-Tao-Feng.jpg

 

*snerk*

 

The mentions of "Pale Lotus" and "Black Mantis" sects in Tao Feng scream ripoff to me.

[Anya 0]

Which poster is blurred? I remember a cardboard stand up of Goro is holding somthing that is blurred.

 

 

 

The lawsuit is true.

 

 

The Cage thing is not so clear. It's true Pesina did the Bloodstorm ad around the same time he was fired....but I've never seen him or Midway actually comment on it. People assumed he must have been fired for it and eventually speculation got passed around so much it became fact. Happens all the time with the MK community. Anyway, it's probably true, but it's possible he got fired for something else(or maybe just quit) and did the ad afterwords. We'll probably never know for sure.

 

 

 

For a long time none of the disgruntled actors appeared in any MK game. Like in Liu's arcade drop fatality, Cage is missing from the sideart. No images of them appeared again until MKDA. I wonder why? They lost the lawsuit, so it's not like they had any ownership or rights to their images in the games. Maybe they just wanted to avoid any possible trouble?

 

 

Pesina has some martial arts site that someone showed me a few weeks ago. I don't have the link anymore though. I also recently saw some pictures of Becky Gable(female ninjas in UMK3) modeling swimsuits.

 

 

They need to go back to digitized graphics. I want to be in a MK game. It looks like fun.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Your weapon could be a keyboard.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

Yeah, it wasn't a poster being blurred, it was the stand-up. Maybe it had a product name on it?

 

I just find it odd that what appears to be a MK logo or something along those lines is blurred out while a Nintendo Killer Instinct machine is clearly visible.

[AndrewTS 0]

The lawsuit is true.

Okay--and my question relating to home videos wasn't a smart-ass thing. I think that actors would get some sort of extra royalties from home videos, but it would have to be in their contract I think or else probably no go.

 

The Cage thing is not so clear. It's true Pesina did the Bloodstorm ad around the same time he was fired....but I've never seen him or Midway actually comment on it. People assumed he must have been fired for it and eventually speculation got passed around so much it became fact. Happens all the time with the MK community. Anyway, it's probably true, but it's possible he got fired for something else(or maybe just quit) and did the ad afterwords. We'll probably never know for sure.

 

I see. Maybe he was one of the disgruntled actors too?

 

http://grblitz.overclocked.org/blood2.gif

 

Could you blame Danny? He was just trying to jump on the bandwagon early.

 

 

For a long time none of the disgruntled actors appeared in any MK game. Like in Liu's arcade drop fatality, Cage is missing from the sideart. No images of them appeared again until MKDA. I wonder why? They lost the lawsuit, so it's not like they had any ownership or rights to their images in the games. Maybe they just wanted to avoid any possible trouble?

 

I guess since, I assume, Danny was related to Carlos, and perhaps they knew them personally it would seem like rubbing it in their faces? It seems like the suit was put against Midway for an issue that was probably out of the MK guys' hands. Perhaps Boon/Tobias and crew never took it personally.

 

They need to go back to digitized graphics. I want to be in a MK game. It looks like fun.

 

*stuffs Anya in Sektor-ish armor with a heavy helmet*

 

Have fun.

 

The only way I see it happening is if they create "digital skin 2.0" or something. However, they may think of it as being way too much trouble. Sure, they have to motion capture anyway, but once that is done the polygon characters are probably easier to work with and manipulate. Plus, War Gods didn't exactly go over well.

 

Of course, considering that Naughty Dog did their first, cheap-o major project as a digitized effort, it probably wouldn't be too expensive to do a 2D one. However, I could only see a new 2D MK coming out if it were a portable title, but even portables are going 3D now.

 

 

Sal in Nightwolf gear up close looks like a skinny cross between Ultimate Warrior and Tatanka. I was surprised that it appears that all the ninja costumes had red as their primary non-swapped color. I guess that's easier to swap than other colors?

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Kung Lao isn't in Deception, is he? If not, is he mentioned at all as to what happend to him/where he is etc.?

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

I was surprised that it appears that all the ninja costumes had red as their primary non-swapped color. I guess that's easier to swap than other colors?

 

It would seem that way, since other blue costumes (like Sub Zero) were actually red for the filming. I also found it a bit odd that the MK3 piece showed them filming Kitana. Perhaps it's common knowledge (or even common sense) that UMK3 was planned from day one, but I didn't realize that until I watched that making of MK3 videos yesterday.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

When I was playing MK:D last week, I felt the urge to re-read the Gamespot "History of" piece. Today, I found this on GameFAQs, and so far it's pretty interesting

 

http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/...kombat_plot.txt

 

Edit: Gah, no direct linking allowed! Anyway, just click on any MK game for any system on GameFAQs and you'll see Gavok's plot guide.

[AndrewTS 0]

Kung Lao hasn't been uncovered yet, so either he's really well-hidden or isn't in the game at all.

 

Which translates to "probably next game."

 

Boon and crew almost always refer to stuff from UMK3 as being "MK3" as well. Ever since magazines began covering the first versions of MK3, it was revealed that the home versions would coincide with a "chip update" for MK3 with new characters. So basically, I think they just shipped out the chipsets and new cabinets for UMK3, so collectively it's all MK3 to them.

 

Neat thing about MK3 and MKII in MAT2--you can zoom the screen in to effectively increase the sprite size and resolution, even on a standard TV. Very cool.

[Anya 0]

Kung Lao and the other heroes were killed by the Deadly Alliance in MKDA. The Dragon King resurrected them and has them enslaved. To see what happens to them, watch Ermac's ending.

 

 

 

The reason the outfits that should be blue are all red is because they are using blue screen. Anything blue wouldn't show up.

 

 

 

Yes, UMK3 was always planned from the beginning. In fact if you beat MK3 on Master there is a little teaser for it("More Kombat: Fall 95!"). It makes since that everything would just be "MK3" to them. They were working on getting that game out nonstop for a few months. It was so bad they were literally sleeping at their computers. Since there was no break between MK3 and UMK3 it would just be one big blur to them.

 

UMK3 doesn't have it's own cabinet.

 

 

 

In MKDA's behind the scenes movie you can see that they still have some of the masks and costumes. Like Kabal's mask is hanging on the wall in John Vogel's office. That's so cool.

[Anya 0]

Oh, and Gavok's plot guide is awesome. Best source on the net for info about the MK story(besides me).

 

I am credited in it!!!!

 

 

 

He is working on an update now.

[AndrewTS 0]

Yes, UMK3 was always planned from the beginning. In fact if you beat MK3 on Master there is a little teaser for it("More Kombat: Fall 95!"). It makes since that everything would just be "MK3" to them. They were working on getting that game out nonstop for a few months. It was so bad they were literally sleeping at their computers. Since there was no break between MK3 and UMK3 it would just be one big blur to them.

 

Plus GameFan's Other Stuff says that they were working on the Playstation and arcade versions of MK3 simultaneously

 

UMK3 doesn't have it's own cabinet.

 

I know the one in my area had a new header, and I could have sworn that there were new sides to the cabinet, but guess faulty memory on that. You're the MK Mistress, after all.

[Anya 0]

PSX MK3 wasn't made by the actual MK team. They were working on it around the same time though. You can see it in the making of MK3 video.

 

 

 

UMK3 upgrade shipped with the chips and a new marquee(purple with skeletons).

 

 

It's REALLY hard to find a dedicated MK3/UMK3 anywhere. Almost everyone I've ever seen is either a really nasty conversion of something completely random or an old MK or MK II. It's too bad, the side art is cool.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Just dug out Deadly Alliance this morning to burn some time. After revisiting some of the endings for the characters, I was surprised that I'd forgotten that Reptile was the host body for the risen Dragon King. Since the Deadly Alliance succeeded, and the Dragon King arose from the egg, does this mean that Reptile's ending became reality? I notice that he is not on any character listings for Deception anywhere, so I'm assuming that he has become the host for the Dragon King.

 

UYI

[Anya 0]

Yes, it did happen. Sindel's ending in MKD is the resolution of that story.

[Guest Beingz0wningj00]

Anyone know where most of the characters are in the Konquest?

 

The FAQs are helping a bit.

 

 

Edit:

 

 

Like, Is Shao Kahn in Out World? How do you train with Baraka... Do I have to go back to some of the Realms? Like do I have to do some of Order Realm and come back to Outworld, or is other things to work on?

[Anya 0]

Kahn is in outworld. He is chilling out with his army.

 

 

You HAVE to train with Baraka in the story, so you'll get to that eventually.

 

 

You do go back to some realms. When it's over you can just keep playing forever going anywhere you want.