Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 SD will get some star power when Taker comes back. Hell, Kane could come with him. That doesn't exactly fill me w/ hope. And the thing w/ the Bashams is, they never gave the fans a reason to hate them. They had basically 1 feud w/ Eddy/Chavo, but the feud really only served at the catalyst for the breakup of Eddy/Chavo. Aside from that, they were just booked w/ a match here & there, w/ a lot of focus on Shaniqua, rather than the team. It's a shame, because Doug has talent. They started having some good matches towards the end of their run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Steiner/Lesnar would be interesting...6 years ago. The fans would think Steiner beating the shit out of a 16 year old kid to be a bit hard to handle. He was 20 7 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerousDamon 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Steiner/Lesnar would be interesting...6 years ago. The fans would think Steiner beating the shit out of a 16 year old kid to be a bit hard to handle. He was 20 7 years ago. I thought Brock was only 25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted February 14, 2004 He was 25... in 2002. He was born in 1977. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I've been noticing an effort to elevate the Cruiserweight title. I mean, I was SHOCKED when I saw an ad for No Way Out based on Chavo vs. Rey. With Rey, Chavo, Tajiri, Kidman, Paul, Ultimo, Nunzio, Knoble, etc....they could always elevate the CW title from card-opener to legit midcard, filling the current void. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Don't get your hopes up too high. They've been running promos for the top three matches for ppvs for a while now...and when you look at the rest of the matches on the card (Nidia/Noble, TWGTT/APA, Bashams/Rikishi&scotty, andmaybe Holly/Rhyno) there was nothing else to choose from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 14, 2004 It's the cruiserweight division. One should never get their hopes up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 RVD to Smackdown in a trade for Edge perhaps. Heyman grants RVD a title shot with Eddie upon his debut. No face or heel, let the fans decide who to cheer or boo. Maybe put Heyman in a position where he trys to build friction between the two of them for buyrates. Turn Kurt Angle heel and put Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas back with him to reunite Team Angle. Possibly bring in Lance Storm as a 4th member. Push Paul London and Billy Kidman as a tag team and feud them with Benjamin and Haas for the titles. This should be the last run for the WGTT as I think the company should test these two as singles. These two are the kind of workers the company needs to build around for the future - not Matt Morgan. Shane Helms, not Hurricane, to the cruiserweight division. Also look into signing a healthy Amazing Red, American Dragon, Chris Sabin or even Lo Ki for the division. I'm interesting to see what Lamont can do in the ring or if he will be in more of a manager role. Turn A Train face... LISTEN TO THE PITTSBURGH MUSIC SCENE... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 14, 2004 . Possibly bring in Lance Storm as a 4th member. Why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 14, 2004 RVD's too damaged product to just turn around and decide to push him now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted February 14, 2004 This should be the last run for the WGTT as I think the company should test these two as singles. Could we hold the phone over splitting up WGTT for at least a year, maybe two? This itching to break up successful tag teams after only a couple years of success is just sad. Hass and Benjamin should not be given 'test runs', they should only be pushed as singles if they're without a doubt ready for it. Shane Helms, not Hurricane, to the cruiserweight division. Also look into signing a healthy Amazing Red, American Dragon, Chris Sabin or even Lo Ki for the division. I'm interesting to see what Lamont can do in the ring or if he will be in more of a manager role. Those are all fine and dandy (TM Brock) ideas, however right now I don't think that the cruisers are the ones that need help. The cruiserweight divison is a side attraction, as it should be, and signing more people for it won't have that much of a positive effect, if any at all. It's the lack of credible heavyweights that's the problem. Turn A Train face... He's in Hardcore Holly territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Well, we could get a lot of very good matches if they did give anyone beside Rey a legitimate push. Back when the Yakuza angle started, for example, there was a part where Tajiri offered Ultimo a spot in the stable. Ultimo blows him off and leaves. This should have lead to something, but it didn't. Instead we got Rey vs. Tajiri. I do like Rey, but it gets boring after a while to constantly see Rey, Rey, Rey when they have SO much talent in the division. Right now you have a good amount of credible cruiser talent and they should be mixed in and out of the scene, and when they're not going for the cruiser belt, they should be competing in tag matches, if not going for the tag belts. This way the tag scene and the cruiser scene will stay fresh, and maybe as you go you try to get back Kendrick, or sign one of the NWA:TNA/ROH guys. Months of quality television can be produced here. Let's look at the roster at the cruiser scene: Faces: Rey Mysterio Jr. Ultimo Dragon Billy Kidman Paul London Shannon Moore Funaki Heels: Chavo Guerrero Jr. Tajiri Nunzio Jamie Noble and then Akio and Sakada if they qualify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoboBrazil 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 It might be just me, but I find Smackdown boring as fuck. I wouldn't necessarily call Raw good, but I find it more entertaining than Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted February 14, 2004 RVD's too damaged product to just turn around and decide to push him now. That didn't stop Big Show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 QUOTE (justcoz @ Feb 14 2004, 02:34 AM) . Possibly bring in Lance Storm as a 4th member. Why. Geez, I don't know, to do something with him, maybe????? Aligning him with Angle could help generate some heat for him. Have Team Angle bill Storm as Canada's Greatest Athlete or something. There was a time when Kurt was just taking off in the WWF and Storm was getting a push in WCW where I believed these two were the future of the business. Storm as it stands right now is another victim of "creative having nothing for him syndrome". Any hope he could have had for a legitimate run on Raw was ruined with the Austin/Boring angle followed by his fly for a bland white guy dancing routine. Now he's probably one of those guys next in line to get cut. This would give him an angle to work with and it would give Smackdown a solid mid card talent who can work. RVD's too damaged product to just turn around and decide to push him now. So why bother to re-sign him when his contract expires? Just let him go to Japan, the indies or TNA then. If they are going to ink another deal with him then they should push him. I agree he's damaged goods on Raw and will never be able to break above the HHH regime but that doesn't mean that he's not capable of getting a renewed push on Smackdown. There are plenty of talents he can work with on Smackdown and the program is in need of perceived "big level" stars to challenge for the WWE and U.S. Titles - he fits that role and jumping to the other brand would give him a fresh start. There are also obvious storyline ties to Heyman. Could we hold the phone over splitting up WGTT for at least a year, maybe two? This itching to break up successful tag teams after only a couple years of success is just sad. Hass and Benjamin should not be given 'test runs', they should only be pushed as singles if they're without a doubt ready for it. Settle down. I didn't say break them up. Testing them as singles is really no different than what they are doing right now when they put them in singles matches on Smackdown or Velocity. Give them each time on the mic, etc. You can still use them as a tag team and give them opportunites to see what they can do as singles. I agree you don't "push" them as singles until they're without a doubt ready for it but they aren't going to get to that level in tag matches against the APA. LISTEN TO THE PITTSBURGH MUSIC SCENE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 14, 2004 QUOTE (justcoz @ Feb 14 2004, 02:34 AM) . Possibly bring in Lance Storm as a 4th member. Why. Geez, I don't know, to do something with him, maybe????? Aligning him with Angle could help generate some heat for him. I like Storm, but I never understood the unwritten rule that all stables MUST have dead weight to slow them down. Team Angle is perfectly fine at 3 people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Anglesault, I see your point. You aren't disputing moving Storm to Smackdown but rather adding him to Team Angle. He also doesn't really have a noted amateur background like Benjamin and Haas. I just thought the pairing of Angle and Storm would be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin3164life 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 Smackdown has the main event scene, albeit not being booked correctly all the time. That's another problem. They treat the SD ME scene like a joke almost half the time, and people don't take things seriously. If they rejuvinate the ME to have serious feuds with realistic motives all the time (and put on some good matches), then it'll help the rest of the show shine in a way. Look at Raw in 1997. The Main Event scene freshened up with the excellent Austin v. Michaels v. Hart Foundation feud, and it culminated with Austin v. McMahon. The mid-card usually sucked in 1997, but that didn't mean that the ratings slowly increased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hektik 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I like Storm, but I never understood the unwritten rule that all stables MUST have dead weight to slow them down. Team Angle is perfectly fine at 3 people. What is wrong with Team Angle having 4 members. I remember last year I wanted Team Angle (plus 4th member w/ amaetuer backround) to feud with a stable that consisted of Chris Benoit, Nick Dinsmore, Jaime Noble, and Bryan "American Dragon" Danielson (who they would have had to sign). Of course that was just the smark side of me that selfishly wanted to see it and I know many people would say it does not appeal to the mass audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 14, 2004 I like Storm, but I never understood the unwritten rule that all stables MUST have dead weight to slow them down. Team Angle is perfectly fine at 3 people. What is wrong with Team Angle having 4 members What's wrong with four members? Simple. There's nothing wrong with three. There's no pressing need for four. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
