Guest Coffey Posted February 13, 2004 Report Posted February 13, 2004 Well, I see Kurt Angle & Eddie Guerrero both winning. If I guess on the other matches, they would be shots in the dark. I suppose Nidia will beat Noble...but Noble could always cheat by peeking and hit Nidia with a bomb. Hopefully TSPWGTT will win over APA. Farooq is damn near retired as it is. Holly/Rhyno will be more "smashmouth" bullshit. I don't care about the tag team titles unless Team Angle has them. I guess Chavo could win the Cruiserweight title. It's not like WWE cares about it. I'll watch it (hopefully) but it's not worth $35.
Guest JMA Posted February 13, 2004 Report Posted February 13, 2004 Overall: The card is nothing special, but some of the matches could be good if everyone involved brings their A game. Reading your predictions, you have either two or three (depending on if you pick the high or low number) being good. OUT OF SEVEN. BAD show. You take what you can get with WWE. Surely you know that by now, right?
Guest Anglesault Posted February 13, 2004 Report Posted February 13, 2004 Overall: The card is nothing special, but some of the matches could be good if everyone involved brings their A game. Reading your predictions, you have either two or three (depending on if you pick the high or low number) being good. OUT OF SEVEN. BAD show. You take what you can get with WWE. I don't follow that mentality.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 I think a lot of the cutting down of this PPV's card is due to the fact that this is a Smackdown PPV and with the skills contained within the roster, it comes off as disappointing. However, unlike with the RAW-only PPVs, usually the Smackdown PPVs end up better than they look on paper. But in a revenue sense that's not really an advantage, and as terrible as they were, the first two RAW-only PPVs drew better than the first two Smackdown-only PPVs. AS is right for not following the "taking what you can get with WWE" mentality. How is that supposed to inspire people to spend?
clean rob Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 Overall: The card is nothing special, but some of the matches could be good if everyone involved brings their A game. Reading your predictions, you have either two or three (depending on if you pick the high or low number) being good. OUT OF SEVEN. BAD show. JMA never said it would be a good show, he said some of the matches could be good. Besides, the only really offensive match on the card is the Nidia/Noble one, and that's surely going to be extemely short. The tag matches and Holly/Rhyno won't be particularly good but shouldn't be truly awful or particularly long. The three matches that will (likely) all be given 15+ minutes have the potential to be good to very good. That's not a bad show by WWE standards at all, it's mediocre at worst. Go on AS, try a little optimism..you might like it!
Guest Anglesault Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 Overall: The card is nothing special, but some of the matches could be good if everyone involved brings their A game. Reading your predictions, you have either two or three (depending on if you pick the high or low number) being good. OUT OF SEVEN. BAD show. JMA never said it would be a good show, he said some of the matches could be good. Besides, the only really offensive match on the card is the Nidia/Noble one, and that's surely going to be extemely short. The tag matches and Holly/Rhyno won't be particularly good but shouldn't be truly awful or particularly long. The three matches that will (likely) all be given 15+ minutes have the potential to be good to very good. That's not a bad show by WWE standards at all, it's mediocre at worst. So the matches will be bad AND short. Wow, I better lock up my wallet so I don't order this entertainment extrvaganza~! more than once. Go on AS, try a little optimism..you might like it Optimism is the most useless human trait on earth.
clean rob Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 So the matches will be bad AND short. Wow, I better lock up my wallet so I don't order this entertainment extrvaganza~! more than once. - Err, not really what I was saying. There will be some mediocre, short matches and some good, long matches. Go on AS, try a little optimism..you might like it Optimism is the most useless human trait on earth. - Somebody needs a hug, huh?
Guest Anglesault Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 So the matches will be bad AND short. Wow, I better lock up my wallet so I don't order this entertainment extrvaganza~! more than once. - Err, not really what I was saying. There will be some mediocre, short matches No, not mediocre, BAD. Noble/Nidia is bad, Rhyno/Holly is bad, WMBTT/Scottkishi is bad, WGTT/APA is bad. Mediocre is SUCH a stretch. Somebody needs a hug, huh? No, I just don't "get" optimism.
clean rob Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 Well it's only speculation and opinion and all that but I'd say the only bad match on the card is Noble/Nidia, and the rest at least have potential to be enjoyable. I'm going to bed now anyway so I guess we'll just have to see how they pan out. ...and surely you must be optimistic in some way, or else you wouldn't even bother to watch!
Guest Anglesault Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 and the rest at least have potential to be enjoyable Like all those other enjoyable Bob Holly, Basham and APA matches.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 Oh, before I forget again, I must say that I think that the No Way Out website fucking SUCKS! WWE puts minimal effort into the PPV websites these days. The least that they could have done was put a graphic for each match. I also miss how the PPV sites had full results, photos and videos from previous years.
Rob E Dangerously Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 WWE Title Match Brock Lesnar © Vs Eddy Guerrero #1 WWE Title Contender Match John Cena Vs The Big Show Vs Kurt Angle Cruiserweight Title Match Mysterio © w/Paez Vs Chavo Guerrero Jr w/Chavo Sr. Blindfold Match Nidia Vs Jamie Knoble Tag Team Title Handicap Match Rikishi and Scotty 2 Hotty © Vs Basham Brothers and Shaniqua
Guest JumpinJackFlash Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 Do you think Rey will lose his mask at No Way Out?
Rob E Dangerously Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 It's not for the mask, is it? I'm operating under the standard formula.. the guy who went over last night will lose at the PPV
Scroby Posted February 14, 2004 Author Report Posted February 14, 2004 why did the title of my thread change?
clean rob Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 and the rest at least have potential to be enjoyable Like all those other enjoyable Bob Holly, Basham and APA matches. Personally, I enjoyed Hollys match last week with Angle. I thought some of the Bashams matches as tag champs were quite well done, they aren't bad per se IMO - just un-over and stuck with a shitty gimmick. I also think Scotty is highly watchable in the ring when he's playing the face in peril type of role instead of dancing about and giving people his godawful finisher. The APA do indeed suck, but I love TWGTT's offense so much I'll probably enjoy parts of that match too. I'm not saying any or all of these matches will be good or even not bad, but I don't think all of them will be completely devoid of merit. That's all.
Guest Anglesault Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 and the rest at least have potential to be enjoyable Like all those other enjoyable Bob Holly, Basham and APA matches. Personally, I enjoyed Hollys match last week with Angle. To each his own. thought some of the Bashams matches as tag champs were quite well done, they aren't bad per se IMO - just un-over and stuck with a shitty gimmick. And...SO...BORING.
King Cucaracha Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 Well, this looks pretty 'meh'. I don't see it being as bad as AS says personally, because bad cards tend to lower expectations. It won't be good though. WWE Championship Match, where Eddie might not win even with Goldberg at ringside...*wink wink* Brock 'La Cucaracha' Lesnar vs Eddie Guerrero Anyone who thinks Lesnar's going over is wrong. Good match, but we all know who's going over so I'll only be interested in the post match Eddie celebration. #1 Contendership Match, where Angle might not win to face Eddie at Mania...*wink wink* John Cena vs Big Show vs Kurt 'Will He Be At 100% OMGDZ~!' Angle Obvious Angle will win, so again, that'll take away from the match. But the last two triple threat matches Angle has been in on PPV (Vengeance '02 and '03) have been enjoyable. Show was in one of them. Should be fun, but by no means a wrestling classic. Cruiserweight Title Match, where Rey might lose his mask...*wink wink* Chavito Guerrero w/Chavo Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio w/'The Best Boxer That We Could Afford' Well, I wouldn't be surprised if Paez turned on Rey if it wasn't for the stupid mask stip. After all, according to Cole he's a 'bad apple'. 3 matches, 3 obvious out-comes. WWE Tag Titles Too Cool 2K4 vs The Sex Fiends and Shaniqua I sense a Shaniqua/one Basham title reign just to suck Smackdown up even more. Plus I prefer the Basham to the bastardised Too Cool. Time Filler Tag Match The A.P.A vs The World's Newest Tag Jobbers Come on...Bradshaw can beat Shelton with a bad shoulder, the A.P.A can't lose to the WGTT. I just don't see it. Time Filler Singles Match, 'This Won't Be Pretty' Softcore Holly vs Rhyno Should be stiff. Other than that I have no interest. Obviously only there to give Holly a win.
Scroby Posted February 14, 2004 Author Report Posted February 14, 2004 Who said that Rey vs Chavo was for the mask?
King Cucaracha Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 Who said that Rey vs Chavo was for the mask? Michael Cole, Tazz, Heyman, Chavito, Rey, Chavo Snr... ...pretty much everyone involved.
Lil' Bitch Posted February 14, 2004 Report Posted February 14, 2004 JMA pretty much covered it for me.
Scroby Posted February 15, 2004 Author Report Posted February 15, 2004 I heard that Chavo wanted to take off his mask, but I never heard it was belt and mask vs nothing of chavo's
SamoaRowe Posted February 15, 2004 Report Posted February 15, 2004 Eddie Guerrero vs WWE Champion Brock Lesnar Winner: Guerrero John Cena vs Kurt Angle vs Big Show Winner: Kurt Angle Nidia vs Jamie Noble Winner: Nidia World's Greatest Tag Team vs A.P.A. Winners: WGTT The Bashams vs WWE Tag Champions Scotty and Rikishi Winners: Bashams Cruiserweight Champion Rey Mysterio vs Chavo Guerrero Winner: Rey Mysterio
Downhome Posted February 15, 2004 Report Posted February 15, 2004 I might as well put mine down in print just for the record. Eddie Guerrero vs WWE Champion Brock Lesnar Winner: Eddie Guerrero John Cena vs Kurt Angle vs Big Show Winner: Kurt Angle Nidia vs Jamie Noble Winner: Jamie Noble World's Greatest Tag Team vs A.P.A. Winners: WGTT The Bashams vs WWE Tag Champions Scotty and Rikishi Winners: Scotty and Rikishi Cruiserweight Champion Rey Mysterio vs Chavo Guerrero Winner: Chavo Guerrero Jr. Rhyno vs Hardcore Holly Winner: Rhyno
Guest Your Olympic Hero Posted February 15, 2004 Report Posted February 15, 2004 Chavito Guerrero w/Chavo Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio w/'The Best Boxer That We Could Afford' I hear Mike Tyson could use the money.
Insane Bump Machine Posted February 15, 2004 Report Posted February 15, 2004 Eddie Guerrero vs WWE Champion Brock Lesnar Winner: Eddie Guerrero John Cena vs Kurt Angle vs Big Show Winner: Kurt Angle Nidia vs Jamie Noble Winner: Nidia World's Greatest Tag Team vs A.P.A. Winners: WGTT The Bashams vs WWE Tag Champions Scotty and Rikishi Winners: Scotty and Rikishi (to drop it to WGTT at WM) Cruiserweight Champion Rey Mysterio vs Chavo Guerrero Winner: Chavo Guerrero Jr. (if it's about the mask as well I pick Rey, of course) World Angry Man Contest Runner-Up Hardcore Holly vs T-Rex Arms Winner: Hardcore, because they hate Rhyno
Insane Bump Machine Posted February 16, 2004 Report Posted February 16, 2004 Stupid Nidia fucked everything up. DAMMIT WOMAN, know your place!
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