Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 The turn was VERY well done, and for right now, the feud looks pretty damn awesome. Of course, there's plenty of time for that to change, starting with the explanation next week. So what will that explanation be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerousDamon 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Wait, you liked the turn?! First, the WWE starts putting on good wrestling matches, then AS agrees with something the WWE did with Angle. We truly are in bizarro land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 So what will that explanation be? Hey Jealousy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 So, Why did Angle turn on Eddie? He wants the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 So what will that explanation be? Hey Jealousy It will be that, obviously, with a touch of "Eddie cheats, lies, and steals and you people CHEER it! I am the Olympic hero, I won my gold fairly using my skill, I don't have to cheat, woooooooo!" Basicly, he'll say he's sick of seeing someone like Eddie getting where he is using those tactics, and that he's out to kick his ass because of it, on the way to winning back HIS championship. He'll make himself sound like this huge good guy, and make Eddie out to look like an evil bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KJ Brackish Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Don't forget......he won his gold "WITH A BROKEN FREAKIN' NECK!" I'm willing to bet money we'll hear it next week. C'mon......the bidding....er....betting rather, is now open. Place your bets now. DFA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 So what will that explanation be? Hey Jealousy It will be that, obviously, with a touch of "Eddie cheats, lies, and steals and you people CHEER it! I am the Olympic hero, I won my gold fairly using my skill, I don't have to cheat, woooooooo!" Basicly, he'll say he's sick of seeing someone like Eddie getting where he is using those tactics, and that he's out to kick his ass because of it, on the way to winning back HIS championship. He'll make himself sound like this huge good guy, and make Eddie out to look like an evil bastard. Did eddie cheat before the Frog Splash? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Kurt Angle doesn't like seeing the WWE Title...Something that he TREASURES, the one thing that motivated him to recover from near career ending Neck Injury, the thing that DROVE him to the brink of insanity, His passion for the sport he loves around the waist of a Lying Cheating Stealing addict that lived a dirty life chicano who proudly flaunts his cheating ways... Kurt Angle should basically play an Updated verison of Bret Hart Circa 1997 with the false sense of Hero Self Worship and Eddy should Channel the Austin edge (already has) as he doesn't seem believe he's doing anything bad... It writes itself... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 So what will that explanation be? Hey Jealousy It will be that, obviously, with a touch of "Eddie cheats, lies, and steals and you people CHEER it! I am the Olympic hero, I won my gold fairly using my skill, I don't have to cheat, woooooooo!" Basicly, he'll say he's sick of seeing someone like Eddie getting where he is using those tactics, and that he's out to kick his ass because of it, on the way to winning back HIS championship. He'll make himself sound like this huge good guy, and make Eddie out to look like an evil bastard. Did eddie cheat before the Frog Splash? tried to hit Brock with the Belt, 'Berg interfered...Hit Brock on the belt with the Counter DDT... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Did eddie cheat before the Frog Splash? Yes, all through the match. What with the choking Chavo behind Angle's back, using the tag rope, etc... EDIT: Oh, you meant at the PPV. Yes to that also, see Choken One's post. Not to mention that Angle could easily say that Eddie had Goldberg cheat on his behalf to help him win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Did eddie cheat before the Frog Splash? Yes, all through the match. What with the choking Chavo behind Angle's back, using the tag rope, etc.. No, I meant this Chavo match. The Angle deathstare would have made sense if Eddie cheated before the Frog Splash on Chavo. It could have been like "That's the last straw." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Eddy hadn't been cheating during the latest comeback, but he had been cheating pretty much the entire match before the commercial (particularly hiding that choke from Angle after complaining of the hair pull). But Chavo was cheating too so it's still kind of a stretch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted February 20, 2004 They should have had Angle count the 3 and then turn on Eddy while he celebrated. They didn't need to do the no-count thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Eddie was doing a lot of subtle cheating in the match tonight, minor things like faking a hair pull in order to gain an advantage. Little things. You gotta at least mention the part with Angle trying to help Eddie and Chavo. Angle can say at first he wanted to help, but eventually saw things Chavo's way and agreed that Eddie was a sleazy, cheating former addict. And when Eddie won the title that way Kurt just couldn't take it anymore and had to ACT NOW. Hence the heel turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 You gotta at least mention the part with Angle trying to help Eddie and Chavo. I thought we agreed that never happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 The best thing they can do with that is Angle going "You are a disgrace, you are a drug addict alchoholic cheater that only cares about himself, not his family, Poor Chavo, I Tried to keep you guys together as a family but no...as always Eddy, you're ego was too damn big" The idea is that the fans will be able to catch the hypocraisy in Angle's claims... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 How about this: despite the golden boy image, deep down Angle's just a sadistic bastard. Who's also an overachiever, and thus needs the belt to feel complete. BTW, Angle's psychotic stare tonight pre and post beating was fucking kingsized. LOVED IT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 The best thing they can do with that is Angle going "You are a disgrace, you are a drug addict alchoholic cheater that only cares about himself, not his family, Poor Chavo, I Tried to keep you guys together as a family but no...as always Eddy, you're ego was too damn big" The idea is that the fans will be able to catch the hypocraisy in Angle's claims... Nah, the best thing is to just pretend that whole month of January never happened and that Angle's involvement with Eddie started with the SD! Rumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 The best thing they can do with that is Angle going "You are a disgrace, you are a drug addict alchoholic cheater that only cares about himself, not his family, Poor Chavo, I Tried to keep you guys together as a family but no...as always Eddy, you're ego was too damn big" The idea is that the fans will be able to catch the hypocraisy in Angle's claims... Nah, the best thing is to just pretend that whole month of January never happened and that Angle's involvement with Eddie started with the SD! Rumble. The WWE isn't just going to forget January happened. There's a reason January happened, and it all led to tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 The turn was VERY well done Damn, there goes my prediction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 The best thing they can do with that is Angle going "You are a disgrace, you are a drug addict alchoholic cheater that only cares about himself, not his family, Poor Chavo, I Tried to keep you guys together as a family but no...as always Eddy, you're ego was too damn big" The idea is that the fans will be able to catch the hypocraisy in Angle's claims... Nah, the best thing is to just pretend that whole month of January never happened and that Angle's involvement with Eddie started with the SD! Rumble. The WWE isn't just going to forget January happened. There's a reason January happened, . Actually, no, there wasn't. Angle had no conceivable reason to be anywhere near Eddie or Chavo Guerrero until the Smackdown Rumble. Damn, there goes my prediction. Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 To you and me and almost everyone here there was no reason.... to the WWE, there was, and we'll most likely hear the whole story in the coming weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Huh? Seeing that I thought it finally gave Angle a badass image for one night and was done decently, I was expecting you'd pull out a reason to complain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 20, 2004 Let's just jump Ahead here...Remember how ULTRA bad-ass Angle was that one with with the crutches and Team Angle? Remember how THAT ended up... Mark My Words, Come 9 weeks, Eddy and Angle will be buddies again eating Tacos and Kurt will be taking Spanish Lessons from Pedro Actavio Jr, Eddy's OTHER cousin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 To you and me and almost everyone here there was no reason.... to the WWE, there was, and we'll most likely hear the whole story in the coming weeks. No, the thing is, there is nothing that could possibily fit w/o rewriting history. Kurt never liked Eddie or Chavo enough to want to help them, but never hated them enough to come up with a multim-month plot against eddie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 To you and me and almost everyone here there was no reason.... to the WWE, there was, and we'll most likely hear the whole story in the coming weeks. No, the thing is, there is nothing that could possibily fit w/o rewriting history. Kurt never liked Eddie or Chavo enough to want to help them, but never hated them enough to come up with a multim-month plot against eddie. If they're going to rewrite history, they will, but they WILL include January. I'm not saying that's going to make sense, but they will try to get January into this build for Mania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 All this is nice...but it doesn't explain to me why Angle turned heel. HE ALREADY HAS THE TITLE SHOT. If the turn is going to be explained away as "Angle doesn't like seeing a cheater with the title"... Then why the fuck would he beatdown his opponent before Mania? That doesn't work. For it to work Angle's character would want to keep everything fair and clean...since he's trying to paint the cheater as the face. Plus...HE ALREADY HAD THE TITLE SHOT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 All this is nice...but it doesn't explain to me why Angle turned heel. HE ALREADY HAS THE TITLE SHOT. If the turn is going to be explained away as "Angle doesn't like seeing a cheater with the title"... Then why the fuck would he beatdown his opponent before Mania? That doesn't work. For it to work Angle's character would want to keep everything fair and clean...since he's trying to paint the cheater as the face. Plus...HE ALREADY HAD THE TITLE SHOT. Maybe he's sending a message? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkius Maximus 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 The reason for it all is simple. When Angle showed back up he was aiming for the WWE title. It's as simple as that, so he saw all the people who could be threats and one of them was Eddie. So, he began to try and keep Los Guerrero's together so Eddie would NOT be a threat to him and his desires for the title, and instead would focus on the WWE title. When the breakup happened who was it that set up the Chavo/Eddie match? ANGLE! in an attempt to keep Eddie out of the Rumble. Then the SD Rumble happened...Angle once again saw Eddie as his possible biggest challenge. Therefore, he attacked him in the back and laid him out. Eddie came back and won the rumble however. The next time someone got laid out, it was Angle himself. Why? To take the heat off him in case someone was on his trail. By being "Beat up" who would assume he did it to Eddie when the same person assaulted him? Angle then wins #1 contendership, and feels secure that he has his title back, since he's fairly sure he can take out Brock.....then Eddie, that same night becomes WWE champion. Angle tries to make it seem like he is supportive...but it's easily see throughable. As soon as he finds out who the Guest referee is, he takes him out. In this case, it's the third beating Angle has given in the back. He then gives that big speech to Heyman in order to plant the idea in Heyman's mind that he should be guest referee...Hell, he might have even TOLD Heyman what was going on. They once were aligned afterall. So Angle goes the referee gig, but at the end he's had enough and shows his true colors. Beating the hell out of Eddie in an effort to weaken him for WM. Angle's main goal this entire time has been to take out Eddie as a threat for HIS world title...but Eddie has kept coming for it. Now Eddie is champion, and Angle doesn't have to sneak around anymore. He can outright just beat him down, and every time he does he gets a little closer to the World title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2004 To you and me and almost everyone here there was no reason.... to the WWE, there was, and we'll most likely hear the whole story in the coming weeks. No, the thing is, there is nothing that could possibily fit w/o rewriting history. Kurt never liked Eddie or Chavo enough to want to help them, but never hated them enough to come up with a multim-month plot against eddie. If they're going to rewrite history, they will, but they WILL include January. . january didn't work at all, so it's easier to delete that than the SD6! era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites