Why Kane HAS to win at WM XX

[Lil' Bitch 0]

As you know, Kane's sole mission in the WWF/E was to destroy his brother the Undertaker for burning their house down and killing their parents. Undertaker admitted responsibility and (I do believe) saying he did it on purpose. As JR said at WM 14, "I've never seen someone physically dominate the Undertaker like this."

 

But according to the timeline, Kane has defeated The Undertaker only once after all these years. I find that to be totally pathetic given how much of threat he was perceived to be leading up to their first battle. I mean ever since he took off the mask last year, Kane has been built to be the number one heel (he isn't for an obvious reason, but he should be).

 

Now, everybody wants the Undertaker to win just so he can keep the precious 12-0 WM streak, but come on, this is more important for Kane, way more important for his character, more important for his future. I mean granted, I'll be happy along with everyone else to see The Phenom return, but Kane deserves this one. This will give him the rub he really needs. To fulfill his revigorated monsterness and not to be turned into a damn joke again. Seriously, this is the best Kane we've had since he first debuted. That's what I like about him. Him being a monster again that now can cut intense promos fitting his character and not being the corpse fucking idiot anymore. If anything, Kane SHOULD be the world champion and if not for this distractive feud with the Undertaker, I would almost be sure Kane would be in the main event picture again.

 

Kane has to defeat his brother where it matters the MOST. Not Backlash, not Judgment Day, not Bad Blood, but Wrestlefuckingmania. By beating him, Kane not only gets a huge and I mean HUGE bragging right, but also another reason to go after the title.

 

Kane has been booked like a pussy as of late because of these stupid mind games along with The Ring wannabe video. He needs to step up, put his game face on, and beat the fuck out of his brother because I don't want a total rehash of WM 14. Back then it was cool and understandable because well it was their first time and it was something new.

 

But now in a Wrestlemania rematch, I don't want to see Kane being up built since June of last year being taken down by The Undertaker once again, who is close to retirement anyway, because that would make it seem like all that hard work put into Kane these past 9 months be all for nothing. The Undertaker has beaten Kane before at WM, why should he beat him again? I really like Kane, I always have. I just hope he wins.

 

- Deon

[Guest reshad974]

you're right dude but we all know Glenn is jobbing to Mark at Fiscal Year 2004's 12nd PPV.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I know, but damn it, it shouldn't be happening. If Kane loses, I might as well give up on him. There is nothing they can do to restore credibility with his character, IMO.

[Guest Tonestar]

Totally agree, I'm sure WWE brass would see it as anti-climactic to have Taker built up for 6 months only to do the job.

 

But I'd mark out like no tomorrow if it happened.

[Guest Trivia247]

Would however be pointless to also build up the Undertaker in his deadman gimmick just to defeat him again. Had they wanted Undertaker to go down, they'd simply bring him back in his current gimmick. But no they are putting on this whole production and buildup for the Undertaker to make his return.

 

Which of course angers the Haters. Dawwwww to bad.

 

Kane's run should have been secured by wins or HHH or Goldberg or Booker T etc .... But HHH or Goldberg saw fit to not want to give him anything.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

If this one turned out to be a Retirement Match, I can see The Undertaker going over on Kane (I used their in-ring names because I can't seem to get a proper fucking response as to whether or not Kane's real name has one or two 'n's).

 

Think about it. He rose. He conquered. He left.

 

But then again, Kane defeats The Undertaker - he's gone - finished (well, at least by WWE standards). He defeated him for good.

 

There is no way that Kane is retiring, even by WWE standards.

 

If this isn't a Retirement Match, then the possibility of, if The Phenom goes over, a Championship hunt (and run) is definitely there.

 

But, apart from those four options, I definitely agree with Deon had to say.

[cawthon777 0]

IF, and I mean IF, Kane is able to kill the Undertaker's WrestleMania winning streak - then he would be a perfect candidate to challenge Chris Benoit ... AND in doing so, solidify Benoit as a worthy world champion.

 

I don't really care one way or the other who wins between Taker and Kane but it would be pretty historic for Kane to get the win.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Maybe we'll be 'lucky' enough to see a double DQ or double countout and this feud will drag on. That way, no one loses at WM and we, the fans, get the 'thrill' of an extended feud between these two WWE superstars.`

[cabbageboy 0]

Kane has almost zero chance of winning this match. Look, you cannot possibly job out UT on his return to being the dead man. I do agree that Kane should eventually pick up a win over UT but this is not the time.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Have Undertaker win at Mania...

 

Then Kane wins at Survivor Series...where Undertaker debuted at.

 

Pefect ending, if you ask me.

[Toxxic 0]

Have Undertaker win at Mania...

 

Then Kane wins at Survivor Series...where Undertaker debuted at.

 

Pefect ending, if you ask me.

I'd agree - if that didn't mean a Taker/Kane feud lasting 8 MONTHS.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Have Undertaker win at Mania...

 

Then Kane wins at Survivor Series...where Undertaker debuted at.

 

Pefect ending, if you ask me.

I'd agree - if that didn't mean a Taker/Kane feud lasting 8 MONTHS.

Not necissarily.

 

THey could have them feud foranother month...then the problem of being on different rosters rears it's ugly head...they feud with other people for a bit...then shortly before Survivor Series...one guy moves to the other roster, allowing them to finish their feud.

[Toxxic 0]

Have Undertaker win at Mania...

 

Then Kane wins at Survivor Series...where Undertaker debuted at.

 

Pefect ending, if you ask me.

I'd agree - if that didn't mean a Taker/Kane feud lasting 8 MONTHS.

Not necissarily.

 

THey could have them feud foranother month...then the problem of being on different rosters rears it's ugly head...they feud with other people for a bit...then shortly before Survivor Series...one guy moves to the other roster, allowing them to finish their feud.

Mmm... contrived...

[JN News 0]

They'll probably end the match on a DQ.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

Yes, I cannot see The Undertaker coming back with a build-up this hyped, and doing the job.

 

A WrestleMania (XX, no less) blow-off would be great here. Carrying it on through small Pay-Per-Views just wouldn't seem right.

[Enigma 0]

I'm still banking on the biggest swerve ever and having UT come back as BikerTaker. Actually, that would make me want to see him get his ass kicked more.

[cawthon777 0]

I'm still banking on the biggest swerve ever and having UT come back as BikerTaker. Actually, that would make me want to see him get his ass kicked more.

That's one of the few things that would get him booed out of the arena.

 

After all this hype and the lightning bolts / lighting / gongs / vignettes on Raw, the fans will be upset - dare I say livid - if he DOESN'T come back as the Dead Man.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Realisticly, Undertaker jobbing is the odds of me getting struck by lighting twice in the same spot.

 

Personal Wishing, Kane NEEDS to win. His ONLY PINFALL VICTORY EVER was June 1, 1998, when he defeated Taker for #1 Contendership @ KOTR when he eventaully won the title. Undertaker's W/L record vs. Kane has got to be around 50-1 or more.

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

you're right dude but we all know Glenn is jobbing to Mark at Fiscal Year 2004's 12nd PPV.

Is it cool to use wrestler's real names in posts?

[NoCalMike 0]

This match was only made so WWE can turn Kane back into, comedic goofball Kane all over again~!

[Guest Askewniverse]

I know, but damn it, it shouldn't be happening.  If Kane loses, I might as well give up on him.

Why should Taker lose at WrestleMania? It wouldn't make sense to have Taker lose in his big return match. Taker losing would be more damaging than Kane losing. I agree with ChrisMWaters. Have Taker (barely) win at Mania, then have Kane win the blowoff match at a later PPV.

 

There is nothing they can do to restore credibility with his character, IMO.

What credibility? The feud with Shane McMahon pretty much killed off any credibility that Kane had.

[Austin3164life 0]

Kane should win. Kane as a monster should be more powerful than Undertaker as a phenom, kayfabe wise. It'd be ultra-historic if he wins as well.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Undertaker's return to the dead gimmick + undefeated streak at Mania = Kane jobs

[JoeDirt 0]

William "Paul Bearer" Moody has been hinting that he will be returning to WWE along with the Undertaker at WrestleMania XX. Bearer really bashed WWE following his departure from the company.

 

Credit: Torch Newsletter

[Guest Anglesault]

Taker has to win this. The build is set up for him to win, and Kane is NOTHING after Shane got through with him anyway.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Taker has to win this. The build is set up for him to win, and Kane is NOTHING after Shane got through with him anyway.

Damn Super McMahon!! He always has to fuck over the over people. Couldn't he just have feuded with Test again?

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I understand they want to save Undertaker's appearance to lure buyrates, but having Kane being dominated already thus far and then losing at WM would just be so fucking lame.

 

Why should Taker lose at WrestleMania? It wouldn't make sense to have Taker lose in his big return match. Taker losing would be more damaging than Kane losing.

 

Because it would give the rub Kane's character needs to be elevated and to be taken even more seriously. People just want The Undertaker to win mainly because of the nostaglia factor. And of course it makes sense to me anyway about all this as Hulk Hogan lost his big return match at Wrestlemania 18.

 

What credibility? The feud with Shane McMahon pretty much killed off any credibility that Kane had.

 

Not really. Marks still buy him as the monster and he did win the feud in the end. Granted, it should have ended at Unforgiven, as extending 2 extra months simply held Kane back from going after Goldberg and the title sooner.

 

Basically it comes down to this:

 

After "striking fear into the hearts of others" on RAW since June 23, 2003, after all the promos, after all the segments, after all the magazine articles, after all the hype, if Kane doesn't accomplish the sole mission, the ONE goal in his life on the biggest stage of them all, WWE should just simply stop doing anything with the character.

[Guest Trivia247]

I understand they want to save Undertaker's appearance to lure buyrates, but having Kane being dominated already thus far and then losing at WM would just be so fucking lame.

 

Why should Taker lose at WrestleMania? It wouldn't make sense to have Taker lose in his big return match. Taker losing would be more damaging than Kane losing.

 

Because it would give the rub Kane's character needs to be elevated and to be taken even more seriously. People just want The Undertaker to win mainly because of the nostaglia factor. And of course it makes sense to me anyway about all this as Hulk Hogan lost his big return match at Wrestlemania 18.

 

What credibility? The feud with Shane McMahon pretty much killed off any credibility that Kane had.

 

Not really. Marks still buy him as the monster and he did win the feud in the end. Granted, it should have ended at Unforgiven, as extending 2 extra months simply held Kane back from going after Goldberg and the title sooner.

 

Basically it comes down to this:

 

After "striking fear into the hearts of others" on RAW since June 23, 2003, after all the promos, after all the segments, after all the magazine articles, after all the hype, if Kane doesn't accomplish the sole mission, the ONE goal in his life on the biggest stage of them all, WWE should just simply stop doing anything with the character.

The Difference between Taker and Hogan in terms of return, is that Taker is returning since Survivor Series. Hogan was returning since the quiet loss to Yokozuna at KOTR 93. The Hogan Rock match wasn't a dream match on paper...but in practice was a totally awesome event. Not the wrestling...but the very atmosphere. The Fans told the story more than the events that brought this match together.

 

Taker's return even returning as the Deadman is not to the same scale as a Hogan return.

 

Kane got plenty of years left in him to build up the Monster. In fact he should have had been able to secure the world title match vs Goldberg alone...BUTTTT NOOOOO HHH wouldn't allow that.

 

But you believe that him defeating the Undertaker would set all that to right? Don't see how. Beating The Undertaker doesn't get much in the grand scale of things even if he is one of the biggest names on the roster.

 

Kane is the nemesis of the Undertaker, they had a whole series of matches based on their feud in 98. Kane is always the Monster and the bane of everyone else.. But Ultimately as the story goes he would always be thwarted by the Undertaker. To Beat the Undertaker, in storyline sense. then Kane would be able to easily Beat anyone for anything and there is to much political backstage crap (and not even talking about Taker himself) Who doesn't want the marks to think there is someone bigger than them (The HHH's the outgoing Goldbergs and the like)

 

People like Brock is different who even though Taker statemated and begrudgingly lost to in HIAC was actually given the rub by Taker. that was no small measure and not something between wrestlers but was backed by the creative writers and McMahon who was pushing Brock to the moon. Kane doesn't have any support of the kind. evidence of that was his lame feud with Shane. where for the majority of the time he appeared too be weaker than a NON wrestler.

 

I believe sometimes people temper their opinions and views on personal biases. I admit mine liking the Undertaker since 91.....and of course Liking the Lord of all wrestling.... the Masta of Use car salesmen..HAKU! But there is of course the evidence of those who wants Taker to lose no matter who it is at wrestlemania. Too lose and to leave. I heard many here say that Taker's 02-03 year was the best he had since his return as the American Bad Ass. I'd say he should retire when he feels like he needs to. Not gonna do a fricken countdown or make estimations as to when he does...

 

If Abdullah the fricken Butcher can still be waddling around the world and impaling people with forks and Be a fricken Champion at what..... 70 now? Close to 70? Then Undertaker 30 years younger can hang around.... wouldn't you think?

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Since when was defeating Undertaker (Clean that is) NOT a big deal? Can anyone name 10 people UT's jobbed to clean in the last 13 years (on T.V).

 

And at Wrestlemania, where he's never lossed in 11 showings, isn't a big deal either.

 

 

And comparing AtB, who barely moves, wrestles in front of 500 people tops, and only punches and stabs people, to Undertaker, who actually WRESTLES now, and can fly over the top rope like a CW, is the worst comparison ever.

[PLAGIARISM! 0]

If Kane does win, it'll be in some shitty overbooked way, probably involving at least one Terry Bollea fireball or shitty pyro effect. In fact, those will probably factor into taker's win anyway.