Should Farooq Come To TNA?

[Guest Goodear]

I, for once, would like for someone to explain to me why it was wrong for TNA to take guys like Raven, D-Lo and the Truth.  Guys who were in the WWE...should be off limits to any other promotion?  Even though the WWE hadn't come up with any way to use them at all?  They should be blacklisted for life?

 

Because its not really so much about the truth that TNA uses some former-WWE employees better than WWE did. Its about the preception that everyone that ever leaves WWE will be in TNA the week that they are cleared to appear. It creates the impression that TNA don't depend on Styles and Abyss and would all things considered would rather be Velocity than be their own promotion. If you're going to market yourself as an alternative, you can not grab onto every piece of a promotion that you're your supposed to be an alternative to that you can.

 

If I'm running a store that is supposed to be the alternative to Wal-Mart... I can't make my store exactly the same as theirs. Granted you can take some parts of their plan and use them more effectively (which TNA has done with Truth and Raven) but you simply can't grab EVERYTHING. And thats what it seems liek TNA is doing.

 

 

I would so rather call it NWA... I so would rather.

[BoboBrazil 0]

The thing is TNA never takes the sucky people WWE release most of the time. They did take Jamal, but it took them like 6 months before he appeared. They only take the good ones.

[Guest Goodear]

They've taken everyone so far that I can remember. Truth, Raven, Crash, Road Dog, Jamal, Dustin Rhodes... who's been let go by the WWE that TNA completely took a pass on? Because I litterally can't think of anyone.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Most of them disapear anyway.

 

The only guys they've taken right after their release that have stuck are Raven and D-Lo.

 

Guys like Lynn, Truth and even Jarrett were long gone from WWE by the time TNA opened. And of those...only Jarrett had a memorable time there.

 

If BG James wasn't Jarrett's friend...there's one less.

 

Other than them the enitre friggin roster is guys who've never even been near the WWE. Styles, Abyss, AMW, Sabin, Shane, Daniels, Low Ki, Skipper, Red, Dutt, Diamond, Swinger, Siaki, Kash, Punk all the way down to David Young, Monty Brown and Kevin Northcutt. Hell...the X Cup weeks feature guys that aren't even in TNA let alone WWE.

 

So they bring the castoffs in and give them a chance to reinvent themselves. Most fail and they aren't brought back. I don't see what's wrong with that. After K-Kwick transformed into the Truth...they'd almost be stupid not to give people a chance. And like I said...only two have worked out. (Although...I'm in the minority that really kind of started liking Siaki and Ekmo in the tag division).

 

I'm sure we'll see Spanky and Kanyon try soon too. And I'm pretty sure Spanky will stick. I don't see why TNA should be looked down on for it.

 

Hell...if Zack Gowen comes back...is he a WWE castoff? I just need to know so I can prepare for the headache that will be that thread.

[Guest Goodear]

Like I said, its more perception than reality. But its a bad perception that TNA could do without, and since there is almost completely no upside to having Simmons come in it would be a good move just to take a pass on the guy and let him slip into retirement.

[RedJed 0]

Ok here's a different direction on this topic, I know that Farrooq apparently got "fired" last night, but isnt he still a part of WWE anyway and will continue to be likely as an agent or something even if he's inactive as a wrestler now?

 

What I mean is why the hell is this being discussed in the first place if this isnt even a possibility? Should I make a "Should Rene Dupree Come to TNA?" thread next?

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

He got fired in real life right before the tapings.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Ok here's a different direction on this topic, I know that Farrooq apparently got "fired" last night, but isnt he still a part of WWE anyway and will continue to be likely as an agent or something even if he's inactive as a wrestler now?

 

What I mean is why the hell is this being discussed in the first place if this isnt even a possibility? Should I make a "Should Rene Dupree Come to TNA?" thread next?

Faarooq was given his release right before the Smackdown taping.

 

Edit: I really should read the whole thread first.

 

 

 

And how is B.G. James a cast off, he was fired for drug issues in DECEMBER 2000, and disappeared for good for almost 2 years.

 

I was unaware WWE guys who are fired aren't allowed jobs because they are "Cast-offs". I mean, wrestling is THEIR JOB. Why the fuck aren't they allowed to work to put food on the god damn table?

 

 

<<<Also waiting for the Zach Gowen is a WWE Cast-off thread when he makes another appearence.

[RedJed 0]

Oops, my bad! Well with that said, he's not worth bringing in, definate old timer who really couldnt offer anything, even in a non-wrestling role.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

NWA: TNA appears to be a place of WWE off-cuts lately, so why not? Faarooq would be as over as hell there.

[Guest hunger4unger]

Simmons should as Ryder could be his hook up.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

NWA: TNA appears to be a place of WWE off-cuts lately, so why not? Faarooq would be as over as hell there.

Again...based on what?

 

2 WWE guys that were released since TNA opened nearly TWO YEARS ago are on the permanent contracted roster.

 

TWO.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

I was unaware WWE guys who are fired aren't allowed jobs because they are "Cast-offs". I mean, wrestling is THEIR JOB. Why the fuck aren't they allowed to work to put food on the god damn table?

 

 

Hate to quote myself, but people seem to ignore my LOGICAL posts.

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

It would add a sense of star power to the show, so why not.

 

Except his potty mouth is bad for TNA. DAMN!

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

Simmons adds "star power"?

 

The guy's been a midcarder ever since he jobbed to Vader in 93, how the hell is that any sort of star power? Hell, even the APA stopped getting good pops back around 2002 before the draft and even after they got back together later on.

 

Simmons is useless to TNA. Utterly USELESS.

[Guest Coffey]

Well, I don't agree about the "WWE castoff" nonsense. There is no reason for NWA:TNA not to pick up the talented wrestlers whom are released or at the very least give some of them a shot. I mean, you can't deny that Ron "The Truth" Killings, Jerry Lynn & Raven have all added to the product. You just can't. Raven was a big player in a big NWA title feud, and he appears to be heading there again. Killings won the damn NWA title and was the first black athelete to do so. Lynn helped put the "X Division" on the map. Just because a wrestler used to work for another company doesn't mean that they are exclusive to that company. By some people's logic it appears that if you were ever on WWE television that you are a WWE star. That's ignorant. Any wrestler should be able to work at any promotion.

 

I do agree with AlwaysPissedOff about Ron Simmons however. He really doesn't have anything to bring to the table. He doesn't have the star power. Sure, the APA were semi-over there for awhile, but Farooq for damn sure isn't a wrestling celebrity. No one would buy an NWA PPV just to see him. He isn't a big name draw like Steve Austin or the Rock. He's not even a mid-level name that people would be like "hey, I remember him...cool." The majority of NWA viewers are on-line fans. Smarks even. That's how they know about the product. Farooq will not interest them, just like Ekmo didn't.

 

Bringing in talented wrestlers whom have been "cast-off" from anywhere makes sense to me. Bringing in wrestlers whom are simply "free agents" doesn't. In that perspective, I can kindof see where people are coming from with their arguements. The problem is that a lot of people that come in that I disagree with aren't really WWE cast-offs as much as just untalented or old. Sometimes, like in the case of Lex Luger, they are both.

 

I didn't really agree with Crash Holly coming in either, but whatever. I think he could be a big example of where the cast-off theorists get their complaints. I'm sure he could wrestle, but he never did. He didn't bring a lot to the table in WWE or NWA, so a lot of people probably thought NWA got him just because people would recognize his face from being on WWE television.

 

Thus, they probably will continue to think so whenever anyone gets "let go." Until they are proved wrong, they don't really have any reason to believe otherwise. Farooq will be a good determining factor. If NWA bring him in, when apparently he doesn't have a lot to contribute, then obviously the cast-off theorists might be right. I'm sure a lot of people could come up with things that he could do, however NWA should be all about wrestling right now. That's what they need to focus on. Simmons' days of wrestling are behind him, so bringing him in, especially in a non-wrestling role, would be a big mistake.

 

So, my hypothesis is that if NWA:TNA does, in fact, bring in Ron Simmons that they will bring in anyone and everyone that has, did have, or has ever had national exposure. If they don't, well, then I'll believe that they only bring in people with talent, or people that they want to give a run because they have an idea with. Ekmo being an example of someone they appeared to have an idea with...in the teaming with Siaki and samaon heritage being brought up.

 

So, I guess we'll see.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Why is he too old to be anything in the ring? He was still getting big pops in WWE and seemed decent enough in the ring wrestling wise. Age doesn't matter if you can still go.

So does that mean Dusty Rhodes should be brought in to wrestle all the time? Pops mean nothing if your past it, especially when Simmons wants to retire and get a Road Agent type job.

Why the fuck am I beginning to like posts by this guy?

 

Is something wrong with me? Why do I find him humerous and witty?

 

Oh, and thumbs down to Faarooq.

 

UYI

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

Simmons adds "star power"?

As in another wrestler that the fans have heard of before, a former WCW World Champion and a former multi-time WCW and WWF/E tag team champion. He might not be much in the ring anymore but it's better than bringing in rapping clowns or Survivor castoffs.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

two words: FUCK NO

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Simmons adds "star power"?

As in another wrestler that the fans have heard of before, a former WCW World Champion and a former multi-time WCW and WWF/E tag team champion. He might not be much in the ring anymore but it's better than bringing in rapping clowns or Survivor castoffs.

You think TNA fans of today know about, yet alone give a fuck, the fact Ron Simmons once held the WCW World Title?

 

Your definition of 'star power' does nothing for TNA but give them a guy that some wrestling fans will remember as Faarooq from WWE. It won't draw them any money or result in anything worthwhile in the ring.

 

I say they should save their money.

[Guest MikeSC]

Simmons adds "star power"?

As in another wrestler that the fans have heard of before, a former WCW World Champion and a former multi-time WCW and WWF/E tag team champion. He might not be much in the ring anymore but it's better than bringing in rapping clowns or Survivor castoffs.

Heck, let's see 'em sign Tommy Rich, then. He's a former World Champ.

-=Mike

[HandofFate 0]

Not EVERY wrestler released by the WWE goes to TNA. I don't happen to see a big Australian guy by the name of Nathan Jones showing up in TNA. He got released what...2 months ago if not longer. Just thank God that he hasn't shown up.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Not EVERY wrestler released by the WWE goes to TNA. I don't happen to see a big Australian guy by the name of Nathan Jones showing up in TNA. He got released what...2 months ago if not longer. Just thank God that he hasn't shown up.

He quit wrestling and moved back to Australia.

[Guest]

I could see Simmons coming in to do ONE job at a TV taping (assuming they get the contract) and then he leaves.