TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 HHH vs. Benoit vs. Michaels Other than that, they'll throw darts at names in the creative meetings and create matchups that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Other than that, they'll throw darts at names in the creative meetings and create matchups that way. It wouldn't surprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 27, 2004 NOTE THE ABSENCE OF SEVERAL MATCHES...quite frankly, what the fuck can they do? A Tag Title Match...but what teams are left to Flair & Batista to defend against? There are no face teams beside Hurricane & Rosey. I'm sure a new team will be formed. Call that Match #3. Kane needs a match. A-Train, Chuck Palumbo, Matt Hardy, Lance Storm (who has turned, right?), Rhyno, Shelton Benjamin, Tajiri, & Test are the HEELS who could have PPV matches. The faces left??? Uh...Rosey, Hurricane, Val Venis and Tommy Dreamer. SERIOUSLY, this undercard is going to suck ass. They need some faces, and Quickly. Losing RVD, Booker T, Dudleys, etc. seriously hurt the face divison. why have eight matches? I'd rather have a shorter card with 5-6 matches with meaning and give those matches worthy time for the blowoff... Go with WWE Title Match Benoit Vs HBK Edge Vs Rhyno (Have it that it was RHYNO who attacked Edge last year) Street Fight/Falls Count Anywhere Randy Orton Vs Mick Foley WWE Tag Titles Evolution Vs Rosey and Hurricane Steel Cage Match Chris Jericho Vs Christian No need to add unimportant matches...Blow off these fueds...Give The Matches 20-30 minutes. Why a cage match? It's the blowoff match, Jericho kicks Christian's ass and trish flirts with him and Jericho blows her off. Effectively ending the feud. Just have Edge attack Rhyno seemingly for no reason, Bischoff is all pissed about it...Edge reveals it was RHYNO who attacked him. Rhyno confesses to breaking that canadian's neck. He was tired of being treated like a joke, like a little animal back during the TEAM RECK days. Easy quickie feud...give them 15 minutes, Edge gets the "hard-earned" win. A memphis style Tag title match would be good enough and hurricane makes a good Morton. Evolution goes over. Orton/Foley should be the final chapter and should be sick and brutal if it's going to put over Orton once and for all. Go 25 minutes of Foley getting his ass kicked. Finally, the main event...Benoit/HBK should go 30-45 minutes and be straight up...it's a wrestling town...so WRESTLE. Benoit goes over. HHH isn't needed because he's shooting a movie and besides, It would only build more to HHH/Benoit at Bad Blood... as for the Kane, Shelton Benjamins, A-Trains etc of the Raw brand...due to the lack of faces, they can't do anything right now. Unless they want to do a meaningless Benjamin/Venis match for the sake of puting over Benjamin on PPV like they used to do back in the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I Predict... Wrestlers will face Wrestlers in wrestlers and the winner will be... Wrestlers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 27, 2004 unless A McMahon gets involved... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muzz 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2004 Shelton must have a place on this card. He must. Other than that, I could care less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted March 28, 2004 Choken One, I love your match analysis' up there. But your card needs just a little bit of work. But Mick Foley VS Randy Orton should be a Hell In A Cell - think about it. I'm not just saying that for the sake of it. Though they can't really do much else, why do Shane and Matt have to challenge for the Tag Team Championship? Talent-wise, it wouldn't work, but otherwise, yes it would. Indeed - where the fuck is Shelton? Well, no feud's better than a rushed, half-assed feud. But was your main purpose shock value by keeping Triple H off the card? Nice work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 28, 2004 No one would buy a PPV with five matches without the Royal Rumble on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted March 28, 2004 No one would buy a PPV with five matches without the Royal Rumble on it. The people that wouldn't are the ones that don't appreciate undercard works of art when they're not at WrestleMania. But hey, if the Main Event was given sufficient hype and/or turned into a Ladder Match, the Pay-Per-View would sell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiny norman 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2004 Yes, say they have HBK/Benoit as a Ladder Match, Orton/Foley as Hell In A Cell and Jericho/Christian as some interesting stipulation, I think people would pay to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted March 28, 2004 Yes, say they have HBK/Benoit as a Ladder Match, Orton/Foley as Hell In A Cell and Jericho/Christian as some interesting stipulation, I think people would pay to see it. Definitely, although if this Jericho/Christian Backlash is the blow-off, which I'm beginning to hope that it will be, they can't be too wild and crazy, stipulation-wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DarthLordOfWrestling Report post Posted March 28, 2004 I think that taker will appear on raw this Monday for a Kane Feud. He wasn't at Smackdown this last week and they hyped up on that lottery thing with Kane chocking the Gms. And Ii dont think they have set rosters with that guy either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 28, 2004 Of Course Shelton Should be on the show...Which is Why I said they should just give him the old school throwaway match like they did in the past to put him over...Just the problem is...After Shawn,Benoit, Jericho, Hurricane and Rosey...we are out of faces pretty much. New Raw Talent Shelton A-Train Chuck Tajiri Rhyno ALL HEELS. Unless they decide to turn Tajiri...That kinda Leaves Shelton to face a Lance Storm or Val Venis...I won't object to a 10 minute match involving Shelton and any of those two... Kane needs a slot but the lack of faces hurt. I could see them turning A-Train face for no reason. They had a ***1/4 match once. They can work a good power match. I wouldn't want a HIAC match...A Street Fight/Falls Count Anywhere fits more with the Cactus Jack style character Foley is working with and Won't hurt Orton as a Street Fight/FCA gives them more room to work with. Foley's two greatest matches were street fights...why not another? (Sting and HHH for those confused) and u could argue that The HBK match was a quasi street fight as well. Foley could carry Orton to ***+ levels using the Street Fight stip. Jericho/X will likely be blown off at Backlash...and I do believe a Cage Match would be a GREAT gimmick to blow it off. Jericho and X are two workers that would use the cage gimmick perfectly...X, the Owenish coward heel and Jericho the ultimo baby ala Bret...Set it up so that they had the cage match because A) Trish may interfere again and B)They hate eachother that damn much. Give them 20 minutes and we got ourselves a **** match. Edge and Rhyno know eachother well enough that Edge will be comfortable in what will likely be his return match...They can hit *** if they are feeling it. Shawn/Benoit is a certain ****+ match...No need for Ladders to be involved. If you make the card 5-7 matches...People will buy it...Hey...they brought a ONE MATCH ppv card for NWO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 28, 2004 You can't put out a throwaway forgone conclusion on a PPV in 2004. Plus, Shelton going ten minutes with men that Kane and Orton beat in three won't help him at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2004 No one would buy a PPV with five matches without the Royal Rumble on it. Unless the main event was an Iron Man match, hey it worked back in 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 28, 2004 If you make the card 5-7 matches...People will buy it...Hey...they brought a ONE MATCH ppv card for NWO. Yep, I missed the pay per view with one match. Must have been a biggie. Did they do the whole 2 hours and 40 minutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 28, 2004 it was the only match sold. It was the ONLY reason people brought the show. It was a ONE MATCH CARD. There are a lot of ppvs that were built around one match and sold around one match...Here you can build a PPV over three hot feuds being blown off(shawn/benoit, jericho/x and Orton/Foley), a returning Edge... That has more sell value then NWO did or anyother recent PPV. Candian Stampede only had 4 matches and its considered among the greatest shows of all time...The amount doesn't matter...it is the content...and with my proposed card...we get two ****+ possibilities along with two other matches that could hit ***. That right there is better then everything else we've gotten recently, other the WMXX. others were wanting to FLOOD the card with 8 matches when 5-6 get the job done better why take away 10-25 minutes for two pointless matches when you can have a short card with 5-6 meaningful matches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 28, 2004 (edited) What PPV are you talking about? And I wasn't aware that people bought Canadian Stampede. Edited March 28, 2004 by Anglesault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 28, 2004 the one two months ago... Eddy Vs Brock. That entire PPV was about THAT Match. People ordered for that match. So a One Match Card does exist.... So if you think a 5-6 match card won't sell...it can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 28, 2004 the one two months ago... Eddy Vs Brock. That entire PPV was about THAT Match. People ordered for that match. So a One Match Card does exist.... So if you think a 5-6 match card won't sell...it can. Didn't that get an itty bitty little buyrate? And there is a HUGE difference between selling the show on a couple of matches and still having other matches on the show and having a five match card. It looks bush league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2004 Canadian Stampede is different. It was a two-hour pay-per-view, first off. Plus, they had a solid stable of heels to battle a solid stable of faces. Unfortunately, instead of the faces that were over (like HBK and Sid, for example), we got Goldust and LOD on Austin's team. They need to now fill up 2 hrs and 45 minutes with at least 7 matches, and only so many faces. I say, hold off on Christian/Jericho, and allow them to face other people this month. Keep them feuding/interfering, but not a blowoff yet, so that the card can benefit. That way, we can get: Kane Vs. Chris Jericho (Kane goes over, continues his rebuilding process...a decent/solid match occurs...Christian/Trish get heat from interfering and Christian Vs. FACE Shelton Benjamin (very solid/great match...Christian's super-push continues...Shelton looks great, albeit in a losing effort) And the NEXT night, they can have Shelton and Jericho tag. Shelton can leech some of Jericho's face heat to continue his turn. So I'd do... Benoit Vs. Michaels Edge Vs. Triple H Jericho Vs. Kane Orton Vs. Foley Christian Vs. Benjamin Flair & Batista Vs. (Build a Team) Victoria Vs. Nidia Throw in some decent angles by that time and the card will be GOOD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 29, 2004 My card has a better card when EVERY MATCH means something (aside from the Shelton put over match)... Blow off these fueds and set up the new ones for J.D... Once again...LESS IS MORE sometimes. Why can't Hurricane and Rosey fight Evolution? They are already established and over already. How does the card benifit from Jericho and X being in matches that are RAW material... HHH Vs Edge? STUPID. This is the SS Main event. Blowing the match with 3 week hype is dumb. Edge Vs Rhyno works better as gets Edge over more and blows off the whole "sneak attack" angle... Throwing in a Woman's Match is fine by me... But still This card is better World Title Benoit Vs HBK Street Fight/Falls Count Anywhere Randy Orton Vs Mick Foley Edge Vs Rhyno Cage Match Christian Vs Jericho World Tag Title Match Evolution Vs Hurricane and Rosey Woman's Title Victoria Vs Nidia Shelton Benjamin Vs Matt Hardy/Tajiri/Storm/A-Train...any of these guys The odd man out is Kane but I'd rather have a angle with Kane then Have kane/Jericho for no reason...the knee injury was 6 weeks ago and hasn't even been mentioned at all since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2004 What do have planned for HHH there Choken? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 29, 2004 But still This card is better World Title Benoit Vs HBK Street Fight/Falls Count Anywhere Randy Orton Vs Mick Foley Edge Vs Rhyno Cage Match Christian Vs Jericho World Tag Title Match Evolution Vs Hurricane and Rosey Woman's Title Victoria Vs Nidia Shelton Benjamin Vs Matt Hardy/Tajiri/Storm/A-Train...any of these guys Seven matches, but two absolute throw away who the hell cares matches. Eh, what can you do. My card has a better card when EVERY MATCH means something (aside from the Shelton put over match)... Blow off these fueds and set up the new ones for J.D... Once again...LESS IS MORE sometimes. I'd like to see the buyrates of shows with less than eight matches that didn't feature a match that had to go an hour plus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 29, 2004 What do have planned for HHH there Choken? he's shooting his movie...he has no reason to be there and if they do a "HHH got screwed out of his title rematch" angle...it sets up Benoit/HHH at Bad Blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 29, 2004 My card has a better card when EVERY MATCH means something (aside from the Shelton put over match)... Blow off these fueds and set up the new ones for J.D... Once again...LESS IS MORE sometimes. I'd like to see the buyrates of shows with less than eight matches that didn't feature a match that had to go an hour plus. So you believe that ADDING 4-5 meaningless matches will BOOST the buyrate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 29, 2004 No, I think sending out a five match card will drastically lower the buyrate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2004 What do have planned for HHH there Choken? he's shooting his movie...he has no reason to be there and if they do a "HHH got screwed out of his title rematch" angle...it sets up Benoit/HHH at Bad Blood. I wouldnt mind if they brought him in for guest color-commentary, at least for the main event...ala HBK back in the day... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 29, 2004 Having a 5-6 match card with 5-6 matches that MEAN something more then 8 matches with 3-4 having importance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted March 29, 2004 You can't put out a throwaway forgone conclusion on a PPV in 2004. Plus, Shelton going ten minutes with men that Kane and Orton beat in three won't help him at all. Does anyone expect Shelton to mow through a guy like Kane? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
