Nash Shoots On WWE

[Guest Trivia247]

that doesn't seem like much of a bashing of the WWE. As it seems like more like just genuflecting what happens to him. There maybe some measure of revenge on ex WWF/WCW wrestlers who came back to the WWE. But it depends on which wrestlers they believed screwed them the most. I think they couldn't intially nail Hogan in vengeance for his role in the WCW because he has too many fans still love him when he came back in. But later on they manage to break him apart bits and pieces. until he was just a masked moron that was fired and forgotten so quickly you think he was in a Yokozuna match.

Wasn't Hogan behind the idea of "Mr. America", and if so, the excuse Vince made him do it is canceled out.

Do we know if it was his idea? Pretty sad Idea if it was.

 

excuses are never cancelled out... I could Say HAKU made him do it.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

that doesn't seem like much of a bashing of the WWE. As it seems like more like just genuflecting what happens to him. There maybe some measure of revenge on ex WWF/WCW wrestlers who came back to the WWE. But it depends on which wrestlers they believed screwed them the most. I think they couldn't intially nail Hogan in vengeance for his role in the WCW because he has too many fans still love him when he came back in. But later on they manage to break him apart bits and pieces. until he was just a masked moron that was fired and forgotten so quickly you think he was in a Yokozuna match.

Wasn't Hogan behind the idea of "Mr. America", and if so, the excuse Vince made him do it is canceled out.

Do we know if it was his idea? Pretty sad Idea if it was.

 

excuses are never cancelled out... I could Say HAKU made him do it.

That was great.

 

In a non-Hogan mark mode, I'll say Hogan's greed and McMahon losing his patience with Hogan was a mixture of the reason Hogans gone....again.

[SuperJerk 0]

that doesn't seem like much of a bashing of the WWE. As it seems like more like just genuflecting what happens to him. There maybe some measure of revenge on ex WWF/WCW wrestlers who came back to the WWE. But it depends on which wrestlers they believed screwed them the most. I think they couldn't intially nail Hogan in vengeance for his role in the WCW because he has too many fans still love him when he came back in. But later on they manage to break him apart bits and pieces. until he was just a masked moron that was fired and forgotten so quickly you think he was in a Yokozuna match.

Wasn't Hogan behind the idea of "Mr. America", and if so, the excuse Vince made him do it is canceled out.

I'd heard they were going to give the gimmick to Billy Gunn originally.

 

That's just what I heard, though.

[DerangedHermit 0]

that doesn't seem like much of a bashing of the WWE. As it seems like more like just genuflecting what happens to him. There maybe some measure of revenge on ex WWF/WCW wrestlers who came back to the WWE. But it depends on which wrestlers they believed screwed them the most. I think they couldn't intially nail Hogan in vengeance for his role in the WCW because he has too many fans still love him when he came back in. But later on they manage to break him apart bits and pieces. until he was just a masked moron that was fired and forgotten so quickly you think he was in a Yokozuna match.

Wasn't Hogan behind the idea of "Mr. America", and if so, the excuse Vince made him do it is canceled out.

I'd heard they were going to give the gimmick to Billy Gunn originally.

 

That's just what I heard, though.

*shudders*

 

 

I hope they weren't serious. Thankfully, it was Hogan. I can stand Hogan.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

At the very least, Hall should've been put over Austin at Mania to keep that feud going. Instead we had superman Austin beating the hell out of all 3 of em, and taking Hall hostage and making a fool of him. Then during the actual match, he proved he could beat both Outsiders at the same time.

This irked me. And why was there so many stunners in that match? I loved how Hall sold it, bouncing up and touching the roof of the building and everything, but any other heel is dead cold after one stunner, so the only explination is that Austin just wanted to play with him and give him an extended squash.

 

And then, of course, he left that night to go home because he was "burned out" and Debra needed a good thumpin'.

 

If Vince had tried to treat the NWO guys as a novelty act, it would have worked. It should have been a really special occasion when one of those guys stepped in the ring. It would have preserved their heat and brought an interesting mesh of old and new. But Vince used them like any other wrestler.

 

And so they got banged up and put on the injury list real fast.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

At the very least, Hall should've been put over Austin at Mania to keep that feud going. Instead we had superman Austin beating the hell out of all 3 of em, and taking Hall hostage and making a fool of him. Then during the actual match, he proved he could beat both Outsiders at the same time.

This irked me. And why was there so many stunners in that match? I loved how Hall sold it, bouncing up and touching the roof of the building and everything, but any other heel is dead cold after one stunner, so the only explination is that Austin just wanted to play with him and give him an extended squash.

 

And then, of course, he left that night to go home because he was "burned out" and Debra needed a good thumpin'.

 

If Vince had tried to treat the NWO guys as a novelty act, it would have worked. It should have been a really special occasion when one of those guys stepped in the ring. It would have preserved their heat and brought an interesting mesh of old and new. But Vince used them like any other wrestler.

 

And so they got banged up and put on the injury list real fast.

I think your confusing the injured list with vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night with your head stuck in the toilet.

 

 

^---Scot Hall's excuse for injury.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

I'd heard they were going to give the gimmick to Billy Gunn originally.

 

That's just what I heard, though.

*shudders*

 

 

I hope they weren't serious. Thankfully, it was Hogan. I can stand Hogan.

Oh come on. It would have been great. You mean you can't see Billy Gunn in a red, white and blue mask and thong combo. Defending our great nation shaking and showing off his ass. Errrrr....

 

*shudders*

 

 

You're right Hermit never mind.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

I'd heard they were going to give the gimmick to Billy Gunn originally.

 

That's just what I heard, though.

*shudders*

 

 

I hope they weren't serious. Thankfully, it was Hogan. I can stand Hogan.

Oh come on. It would have been great. You mean you can't see Billy Gunn in a red, white and blue mask and thong combo. Defending our great nation shaking and showing off his ass. Errrrr....

 

*shudders*

 

 

You're right Hermit never mind.

 

Thanks for the viusal description, now I must cast a curse on you with my voodoo magic, that your family will be attacked by great white sharks!

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I think your confusing the injured list with vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night with your head stuck in the toilet.

 

 

^---Scot Hall's excuse for injury.

He was going just fine until Steve Austin had a beer bash on his corpse.

 

When he was hired he said he had medicine that made him ill if he got near alcohol. I imagine he wasn't taking it so he wouldn't get naseous and vomiting while Austin stomped him down and started spilling beer all over the ring. I think in one bit SCSA actually poured it right on him.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

I think your confusing the injured list with vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night with your head stuck in the toilet.

 

 

^---Scot Hall's excuse for injury.

He was going just fine until Steve Austin had a beer bash on his corpse.

 

When he was hired he said he had medicine that made him ill if he got near alcohol. I imagine he wasn't taking it so he wouldn't get naseous and vomiting while Austin stomped him down and started spilling beer all over the ring. I think in one bit SCSA actually poured it right on him.

In a way to half-defend, it might have been non-alcoholic beer.

 

 

But knowing the creative team of the then-WWF, it probably wasn't.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

In a way to half-defend, it might have been non-alcoholic beer.

 

 

But knowing the creative team of the then-WWF, it probably wasn't.

I believe they use Coors Light for everything.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Thanks for the viusal description, now I must cast a curse on you with my voodoo magic, that your family will be attacked by great white sharks!

I'm guessing that the sharks will be like the Chevy Chase ones from SNL seeing as how we live far away from any oceans.

[David Blazenwing 0]

Well, in his case, it'd be take two steps, blow your knee out, be out for numerous months...

Just for the record, I'm pretty sure Nash got a kick in on Booker T before he blew his quad in that match.

Yeah, the kick WAS what blew his quad. He kicked Book in the side and tripped, blowing his quad in the process.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Well, in his case, it'd be take two steps, blow your knee out, be out for numerous months...

Just for the record, I'm pretty sure Nash got a kick in on Booker T before he blew his quad in that match.

Yeah, the kick WAS what blew his quad. He kicked Book in the side and tripped, blowing his quad in the process.

Actually he was RUNNING to bounce off the ropes or hit someone in the corner, but just collapsed.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

*toilet flush*

 

Oh, hey guys.

 

 

I guess I'm gonna go.

 

*leaves*

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Hm, I thought he just entered and took a few steps THEN collasped.

[SuperJerk 0]

Hm, I thought he just entered and took a few steps THEN collasped.

No. I have it on tape. He got a kick in.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Yeah, the kick WAS what blew his quad. He kicked Book in the side and tripped, blowing his quad in the process.

Actually he was RUNNING to bounce off the ropes or hit someone in the corner, but just collapsed.

Well remember after Nash knocked Booker he ran to the ropes and tripped over Booker and then grabbed his knee in pain and that when everyone else in the match just improved the finish.

 

And we should be thanked it happen seeing how reports were Nash would pin Booker to win the match and then get a huge push to the Rumble and the belt.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Yeah, the kick WAS what blew his quad. He kicked Book in the side and tripped, blowing his quad in the process.

Actually he was RUNNING to bounce off the ropes or hit someone in the corner, but just collapsed.

Well remember after Nash knocked Booker he ran to the ropes and tripped over Booker and then grabbed his knee in pain and that when everyone else in the match just improved the finish.

 

And we should be thanked it happen seeing how reports were Nash would pin Booker to win the match and then get a huge push to the Rumble and the belt.

......No talking about Nash pushed to the title! GAAAAH!!!!

[Jobber of the Week 0]

[Guest Trivia247]

He went for what a kick on booker? it look like his other leg collasped under him

[Cherry Blossom Viscount 0]

If the NWO was used CORRECTLY, they could have been huge. They are NOT going to get over when you have three guys that took a whole company hostage, now getting beaten up a past his prime redneck. When they came in, they still had NWO aura, by the end of WM, it was over. Vince and Austin killed it.

 

The NWO should have been handing out beatings left and right. Look at how vicious the attack on Rock was. That one attack set the precedant right there. One they were never allowed to acheive again. Every face in the company should have been a target. Heels like Jericho (at the time) should have been sucking up to them to avoid the beating and spraypaint. One attack on the Rock (which seemingly every incoming heel attacked to draw heat) was not going to do it. Austin, Taker, and HHH should have all been laid out at the feet of the NWO. The program had at least a year long shelf life. Instead, it was ruined within months.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

If the NWO was used CORRECTLY, they could have been huge. They are NOT going to get over when you have three guys that took a whole company hostage, now getting beaten up a past his prime redneck. When they came in, they still had NWO aura, by the end of WM, it was over. Vince and Austin killed it.

 

The NWO should have been handing out beatings left and right. Look at how vicious the attack on Rock was. That one attack set the precedant right there. One they were never allowed to acheive again. Every face in the company should have been a target. Heels like Jericho (at the time) should have been sucking up to them to avoid the beating and spraypaint. One attack on the Rock (which seemingly every incoming heel attacked to draw heat) was not going to do it. Austin, Taker, and HHH should have all been laid out at the feet of the NWO. The program had at least a year long shelf life. Instead, it was ruined within months.

To be honest, I didn't give two handfuls of shit about Nash & Hall, I just wanted Hogan back.

[Use Your Illusion 0]

Hogan leaving so soon wasn't how I would've booked it, but after the reaction they got at Mania they didn't really have much choice.  The NWO angle could've still been salvaged if they hadn't lost Nash for a while to an injury, and then lost Hall permanantly.  Don't forget for a good while there the only active NWO members on TV were Big Show and X-Pac.  So of course the superstar factor and return pops weren't gonna be there for THEM.  Then they got Nash back for like a week, we get Raw is Quad and after that even Vince says "fuck it" and pulls the plug.

Another problem I think was that the NWO didn't really affect anyone in the fed outside of Rock, Austin, and Flair. I mean remember how when the NWO first came out there was that when are they going to strike factor. They could attack anyone from Rey to Lugar to Larry Z, anyone. All the NWO did in WWF was mess with Flair, Rock and Austin and that's it. No one else in the fed really.

Rey Mysterio; human dart will forever be tattooed in my mind as the funniest shit I've ever seen.

You thought that was funny?

 

Watching that live, I thought Rey's neck had just been broken.

 

That is one of the most horrifyingly real bumps I've ever seen in my life.

 

UYI

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It didn't help Hogan/HHH that it was preceded by about 900 hours of the most boring Austin / Taker match conceived by man, if i recall correctly.  (I may be wrong, as i was trying to poke my eyes out with a fork during that one.)

 

niko

It was 26:00 long, and I remember looking at the clock every 10 seconds screaming "END THE FUCKING MATCH!". I actually cheered when UT won. Not because I liked him, but because it was over.

God, I remember that one. At first i was wondering, "Why the hell are they stalling so much?" Then halwfay through I was thinking, "SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!" Then Hall and X-Pac come down... and do nothing. At the end Flair obviously screwed up the 3 count.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Hogan leaving so soon wasn't how I would've booked it, but after the reaction they got at Mania they didn't really have much choice.  The NWO angle could've still been salvaged if they hadn't lost Nash for a while to an injury, and then lost Hall permanantly.  Don't forget for a good while there the only active NWO members on TV were Big Show and X-Pac.  So of course the superstar factor and return pops weren't gonna be there for THEM.  Then they got Nash back for like a week, we get Raw is Quad and after that even Vince says "fuck it" and pulls the plug.

Another problem I think was that the NWO didn't really affect anyone in the fed outside of Rock, Austin, and Flair. I mean remember how when the NWO first came out there was that when are they going to strike factor. They could attack anyone from Rey to Lugar to Larry Z, anyone. All the NWO did in WWF was mess with Flair, Rock and Austin and that's it. No one else in the fed really.

Rey Mysterio; human dart will forever be tattooed in my mind as the funniest shit I've ever seen.

You thought that was funny?

 

Watching that live, I thought Rey's neck had just been broken.

 

That is one of the most horrifyingly real bumps I've ever seen in my life.

 

UYI

Well when I stop and think about it then it's not really funn,y but seeing it live I remember cracking up because I've NEVER seen anything like that happen.

 

Which reminds me, who else got an ass-beating during that little parking lot beatdown?

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Which reminds me, who else got an ass-beating during that little parking lot beatdown?

Not sure...but wasn't that the one where Randy Savage jumped on top of a moving limosuine?

 

I seem to remember something like that happening in one of those nWo incidents.

[AndrewTS 0]

It didn't help Hogan/HHH that it was preceded by about 900 hours of the most boring Austin / Taker match conceived by man, if i recall correctly.  (I may be wrong, as i was trying to poke my eyes out with a fork during that one.)

 

niko

It was 26:00 long, and I remember looking at the clock every 10 seconds screaming "END THE FUCKING MATCH!". I actually cheered when UT won. Not because I liked him, but because it was over.

God, I remember that one. At first i was wondering, "Why the hell are they stalling so much?" Then halwfay through I was thinking, "SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!" Then Hall and X-Pac come down... and do nothing. At the end Flair obviously screwed up the 3 count.

I watched the whole damn thing...one of the worst matches I'd ever seen. Not really any blown spots or anything, it was just that NOTHING happened! Huge stalling to start, punch, kick, the occasional signature move, Flair's goofy-looking shoes--just a huge, long, boring, NOTHING mess of a match. It's like they were trying to stink up the place intentionally.

 

I could be wrong, but I think the fans were getting so bored they started chanting "X-Pac sucks" after him and Hall came down.

[DangerousDamon 0]

Hogan/HHH wasn't quite *as* bad as Hogan/Taker, but HHH doing his really bad Flair impression, attacking Hogan's knee when he SURE AS HELL isn't Flair sucked. It would have made more sense to target the bad back and destroy that like he was doing with HBK would have been infinitely more interesting.

 

What we got was HHH/Angle, only longer, more boring, and without Angle's skillz to make it entertaining--the ending was just as stupid, though.

At least we got a Hogan Cutter out of the Match.

[Youth N Asia 0]

NASH: ...because if you can't land on your back, and you've got to go 12 minutes, damn right you'll learn how to work. You'll learn how to do something.

 

Should be easy enough for Nash, he doesn't bump.

 

IGNFF: It's amazing how many big names have left the business in the past few years...

 

It amazes me how little those "big names" had to offer the time there were there.