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I know that many people have asked TNA about this, and Mike Tenay vehemently opposes lots of titles, but I was wondering if there was anyone else who thought it would be a good idea for NWA-TNA to introduce the North American Title? Russo seems to want to create some new stars, and what better way than the North American Title? I think mid-card titles help when used right (something WWE has forgotten how to do), so what does everyone else think?

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It depends on what TNA is doing with their other titles at the time.

 

They go through phases where they try to make the titles important...like they are trying now...and in these cases I'd say no.

 

Then they go through phases where none of the titles are defended for long lengths of time...and then I'd say yes.

 

If they get TV I'd rather see them do something like make the main event important than add a new title.

 

They could make it so being in the main event of the show is the key spot...and have the winner of the main event retain that spot for the next week against a new challenger. That way you don't add a new title...but do have something to use to try and get people over. Hell...any NWA title match would be the main event anyway...so the person who's in the main event that week could get the title shot. You could still have feuds for the title that would blow off on the 3 hour ppvs...but this would be a different idea that would give the show something kind of interesting to watch every week.

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Well, I think they should focus on what they have before they try to focus on what they could add. So, in that sense, I guess I agree with bps.

 

I think having the X-Division Title (which isn't restricted by weight if you recall) along with the NWA Title and the NWA Tag Team titles should be more than enough. Then you throw in the NWA X-Cup. So, who would compete for the North American Title? The main eventers that could go after the NWA Title? The midcarders that could go after the X-Division Title? The tag team specialist that could just stay a part of a team and compete for the NWA Tag Team Titles?

 

I don't think that they need it.

 

I agree with Mike Tenay. Too many titles are a bad thing. NWA's roster right now is at a size where three titles seems like a lot. Adding another right now, in my mind, would be a bad thing. I say that they keep things they way that they are, and continue to make the titles they have seem more important. The last thing we want to see in NWA:TNA with a World Title, NWA Title, Tag Team Title, NWA Tag Team Titles, X-Division Title, North American Title, Women's Title & Cruiserweight/Lightweight Titles.

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I think keep what they have for right now. Though I think at some point some of the heavyweight guys who have no shot at ever being a World Champ will need something to do.

 

I think Chris Harris is a good example. He's not quite ready for the World Title and having a mid-card title that he can compete for would be a big help for him.

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I think having the X-Division Title (which isn't restricted by weight if you recall) along with the NWA Title and the NWA Tag Team titles should be more than enough. Then you throw in the NWA X-Cup. So, who would compete for the North American Title? The main eventers that could go after the NWA Title?

 

I see both sides of this debate, but while the X Title isn't restricted by weight, it is restricted by style. There are midcard guys who don't wrestle that style (i.e Sonny Siaki), who was crap as an X Champ, but probably would have gotten over as North American Champ. So eventually, I think they might need to add 1 more belt. I think 4 championships can co-exist in a promotion. Look at WWF in 1998. For a while, when D'Lo was champ, then even managed to make the European Title worth something. Just a though...

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I think having the X-Division Title (which isn't restricted by weight if you recall) along with the NWA Title and the NWA Tag Team titles should be more than enough. Then you throw in the NWA X-Cup. So, who would compete for the North American Title? The main eventers that could go after the NWA Title?

 

I see both sides of this debate, but while the X Title isn't restricted by weight, it is restricted by style. There are midcard guys who don't wrestle that style (i.e Sonny Siaki), who was crap as an X Champ, but probably would have gotten over as North American Champ. So eventually, I think they might need to add 1 more belt. I think 4 championships can co-exist in a promotion. Look at WWF in 1998. For a while, when D'Lo was champ, then even managed to make the European Title worth something. Just a though...

That was the point of Siakis reign. It doesn't matter what style or weight class your in. Siaki was more if a...well, he sucked. He had no style, but the point was he was dominating all the high flyers until Kid Kash beat him (I think it was Kash). And Kash is not the biggest flyer either. He can't even do that springboard dropkick across the ring without fucking it up.

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Sure, Siaki's reign was to show that you can be a big guy and still work X-Division style...but why didn't they just bring in a taller flyer? The X-Division was all about high-impact, fast-paced wrestling, and Siaki and Michael Shane didn't work either style (although Siaki could when tagging with Yang and Estrada in The Flying Elvises).

 

I think an upper-card, non-X title would be good, but you'd have to name it right, and make sure you keep it separate from the X-Division. Not make it its own division, but just make sure people know that it's about card placement.

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I know that many people have asked TNA about this, and Mike Tenay vehemently opposes lots of titles, but I was wondering if there was anyone else who thought it would be a good idea for NWA-TNA to introduce the North American Title? Russo seems to want to create some new stars, and what better way than the North American Title? I think mid-card titles help when used right (something WWE has forgotten how to do), so what does everyone else think?

Heck, JJ never lost the thing --- so I guess they already have a champ.

-=Mike

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I think Chris Harris is a good example. He's not quite ready for the World Title and having a mid-card title that he can compete for would be a big help for him.

He's pretty much the reason I started this post. Him and Siaki. I think a mid-card title could help further establish them as stars, as throwing Harris in the title picture seemed a little odd when I first saw it. I will agree, though, that bringing it in at this very moment might not be the best thing.

 

Heck, JJ never lost the thing --- so I guess they already have a champ

 

NWA North American Heavyweight Champion: JT Wolfen

 

Defeated Shawn "Hotstuff" Hernandez on September 27, 2003 in Honolulu, Hawaii

 

-courtesy NWAWrestling.com

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I think Chris Harris is a good example.  He's not quite ready for the World Title and having a mid-card title that he can compete for would be a big help for him.

He's pretty much the reason I started this post. Him and Siaki. I think a mid-card title could help further establish them as stars, as throwing Harris in the title picture seemed a little odd when I first saw it. I will agree, though, that bringing it in at this very moment might not be the best thing.

 

Heck, JJ never lost the thing --- so I guess they already have a champ

 

NWA North American Heavyweight Champion: JT Wolfen

 

Defeated Shawn "Hotstuff" Hernandez on September 27, 2003 in Honolulu, Hawaii

 

-courtesy NWAWrestling.com

When did Jeff drop the strap? He held it in, I believe, 1999 during Russo's sub-moronic NWA-invasion angle.

-=Mike

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I think Chris Harris is a good example.  He's not quite ready for the World Title and having a mid-card title that he can compete for would be a big help for him.

He's pretty much the reason I started this post. Him and Siaki. I think a mid-card title could help further establish them as stars, as throwing Harris in the title picture seemed a little odd when I first saw it. I will agree, though, that bringing it in at this very moment might not be the best thing.

 

Heck, JJ never lost the thing --- so I guess they already have a champ

 

NWA North American Heavyweight Champion: JT Wolfen

 

Defeated Shawn "Hotstuff" Hernandez on September 27, 2003 in Honolulu, Hawaii

 

-courtesy NWAWrestling.com

When did Jeff drop the strap? He held it in, I believe, 1999 during Russo's sub-moronic NWA-invasion angle.

-=Mike

He won the vacant title on 12/30/97 by beating Barry Windham. Reckless Youth voluntarily gave it up the day before.

 

He vacated it on 3/2/98 and it was won 5 months later by The Colorado Kid.

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I like the idea but wouldn't this new title bring down the value of th X-divison title? Also migh take focus off the world title for a little while.

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I wouldn't think it would take focus of the X division title, as the X Title is based on style. I don't think it would be a good idea for them to do it if they're going to a one hour show on Fox. They would need at least the two hour show to help them develop it.

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I know that many people have asked TNA about this, and Mike Tenay vehemently opposes lots of titles, but I was wondering if there was anyone else who thought it would be a good idea for NWA-TNA to introduce the North American Title? Russo seems to want to create some new stars, and what better way than the North American Title? I think mid-card titles help when used right (something WWE has forgotten how to do), so what does everyone else think?

Pardon me, but when the fuck has this worked in the past 5 or so years?

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No way. They've got 3 titles, all that have maintained importance in the promotion, they don't need to dilute it. They don't have enough "main eventers" to create a whole mid card division. Everyone should be rightfully trying for the NWA World Title with the quicker wrestler's battling for the X belt. Whoever's left out of the mix can tag for the Tag Titles.

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I know that many people have asked TNA about this, and Mike Tenay vehemently opposes lots of titles, but I was wondering if there was anyone else who thought it would be a good idea for NWA-TNA to introduce the North American Title?  Russo seems to want to create some new stars, and what better way than the North American Title?  I think mid-card titles help when used right (something WWE has forgotten how to do), so what does everyone else think?

Pardon me, but when the fuck has this worked in the past 5 or so years?

That was the point of "something WWE has forgotten how to do." When used properly, a mid card title could aid a promotion in developing stars. PROPERLY. I know WWE hasn't done it lately, but they did when Russo was writing.

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That was the point of "something WWE has forgotten how to do." When used properly, a mid card title could aid a promotion in developing stars. PROPERLY. I know WWE hasn't done it lately, but they did when Russo was writing.

 

Your right on that, thats the only time when I thought the Europeon title ment something after Russo left it sorta got shitbased.

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