Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 I and many have gotten down on poor little Randy Orton who is being rushed to the top very fast by the WWE at large and is busting his ass to deserve the spot. This past Monday night got me thinking after he Spat on Harley Race. What if Randy starts doing what Shane Douglas did in ECW in 95) and Challenge Legends (Semi retired to retired but not crippled Legends that is) to matches. He put up the IC title against various older or has been wrestlers stuck in Indi's exile. Douglas had various matches with the likes of Tully Blanchard, Marty Jenetty and others in 95. I kinda like the idea of like former names given the chance to shine again and perhaps grab some IC gold (With Orton ultimating winning each match of course) The key was Douglas didn't dominate the matches and in fact made the former Big name wrestlers look damn good in the match. think up some decent names of wrestlers that may have either retired in the past 5 or so years or have dropped off the map for various reasons......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yankovic fan 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Wrestlemania XXI Orton Vs. Orton!!! Cowboy vs. the Legend Killer!!! OMG the buyrates!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brocklock 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 They tried it with Kid Kash in TNA too, he fought Ricky Morton, Bobby Eaton, Larry Zbyszko, and Terry Taylor. The matches sucked for the most part, but the Morton match was decent I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Wrestlemania XXI Orton Vs. Orton!!! Cowboy vs. the Legend Killer!!! OMG the buyrates!!!! the only way I see that working.... is if before the match some weeks before Randy ambushes Bob and so.... Bob appears at the PPV with a CAST on his arm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MixxMaster 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 I'd much rather see the Orton-back-in-OVW-angle(that isn't really an angle)...I don't see how having a garbage match highlighted by landing on some thumbtacks is "paying his dues", nor do I get how unimproving promos and ringwork are signs of "improvement". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 28, 2004 The entire concept of "paying your dues" can be distilled to having to go through a shitload of pain for nothing. He did that. He didn't have to take those bumps to still get the match over. But he did. ANd fuck paying dues. Almost no one does it anymore since the territory system is dead. It's just another excuse that was used to hold down guys in WCW and The WWE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Is 'ultimating' even a word? Hellwig who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Fuck paying dues. It's an outdated concept. And open your blinders. Orton's ring work has progressed, unlike Cena (who I still love, but has fallen into a rut). His pacings gotten better and he's learned how to fill a lot of the holes between big sections of work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 I think they should do an angle where he gets a dry mouth and contemplates retirement because he can't produce enough saliva to spit in peoples faces anymore. In a last-ditch effort, they set up a telethon to help others with this debilitating affliction, where Orton believes if he saves enough people, he might just save himself. "With your donation, you can help kids like lil Timmy from St. Louis spit again." "Thanks Randy" "No, thank you lil Timmy" *Timmy, on crutches, turns around to leave* *Orton gets this look in his eye* *Orton RKO's lil Timmy* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 And you can have Randy cut a promo saying he lost his spit, and that he's going to go away for a while to find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 After the shitty Foley/Orton angle I rather Orton stop going after retired wrestlers and start having feuds with current wrestlers so he can grow and the fans can see what he is made of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Shitty? that feud got him way over and ended witha **** match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest duck420 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 how about they do an angle where randy orton is triple h's clone. then they find out that randy is the original and triple h is the clone and he just wiped randys memory thats why he doesnt know how to wrestle for shit. do it just like the spiderman clones storylines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 I think they should do an angle where he gets a dry mouth and contemplates retirement because he can't produce enough saliva to spit in peoples faces anymore. In a last-ditch effort, they set up a telethon to help others with this debilitating affliction, where Orton believes if he saves enough people, he might just save himself. "With your donation, you can help kids like lil Timmy from St. Louis spit again." "Thanks Randy" "No, thank you lil Timmy" *Timmy, on crutches, turns around to leave* *Orton gets this look in his eye* *Orton RKO's lil Timmy* Sometimes I wish you were the head booker RRR (like this time). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 I think that it's time to move away from the legend killer thing, which they started to do the last two weeks. Have him feud with Benjamin or Edge, or both for awhile and see where it takes him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 No you don't. You don't want time travelling scientists looking to stop the end of civilization in the WWE. And Foley/Orton has been the best fucking storyline of the year. Jesus Christ, nothing can touch it in terms of continuity and promo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 No you don't. You don't want time travelling scientists looking to stop the end of civilization in the WWE. The Triumphant return of the New Breed!? I'm for it! If just for President Rhodes...if you weeeell.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 No you don't. You don't want time travelling scientists looking to stop the end of civilization in the WWE. I'll bite.. what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Don't mock me. ... Maybe they could do an evil twin angle with Orton where _his_ evil twin is just a nice guy named Andy. They build up to it, with Randy leaving the room and Andy coming in and talking with Evolution. Flairs reaction to this would be the key seller. Then, when Randy and Andy finally meet, they just say "hi" and Andy somehow mysteriously dies. Orton doesn't really think much of it, but the rest of Evolution is freaked out at the possibility of more Randytwins. Then, in following weeks, we get Dandy, Tandy, Landy, Handy, and of course, Candy & Mandy - the female twins of Randy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 I'll bite.. what? You aren't familiar with my "Funaki: Time Travelling Scientist from the future" storyline?! I incorporate it into virtually everything I do. Clearly, efforts must be doubled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Shitty? that feud got him way over and ended witha **** match Well time will tell how well the Foley feud got Orton over and I haven't seen the hardcore match yet. But, I thought the feud was shitty. First, why should I care that Orton beats up retired wrestler Foley when HHH has already done it countless times. And Foley was always looking like a dumbass by walking in to traps and, of course, with the way Orton was always beating him at every turn there was no doubt he was winning the feud. And I'm just sick of Foley always talking about how he doesn't like the way the WWE is but, then the minute Vince offers him money or a chance to plug one of his book's Foley is right there doing the shit he says he doesn't like. Like when he first came in to replace Austin. What was the point of that? He added nothing to the product or the storyline and it was just more of the same shit that we had with Austin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 how about they do an angle where randy orton is triple h's clone. then they find out that randy is the original and triple h is the clone and he just wiped randys memory thats why he doesnt know how to wrestle for shit. do it just like the spiderman clones storylines Let Flair play the part of the Jackal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 how about they do an angle where randy orton is triple h's clone. then they find out that randy is the original and triple h is the clone and he just wiped randys memory thats why he doesnt know how to wrestle for shit. do it just like the spiderman clones storylines Let Flair play the part of the Jackal. And Vince can play the part of the Green Goblin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dazed Report post Posted April 28, 2004 (edited) Hey everyone. Let's talk about whether Orton sucks. Again. Let's stop hijacking threads. If you want to talk about whether or not he sucks, make a new thread, instead of taking over this one. MixxMaster, I'm looking at you. Edited April 28, 2004 by nikjohns Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 how about they do an angle where randy orton is triple h's clone. then they find out that randy is the original and triple h is the clone and he just wiped randys memory thats why he doesnt know how to wrestle for shit. do it just like the spiderman clones storylines Let Flair play the part of the Jackal. And Vince can play the part of the Green Goblin. Who'd play Dr. Octopus and Venom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redbaron29 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 I think that it's time to move away from the legend killer thing, which they started to do the last two weeks. The Legend Killer gimmick is the most fresh gimmick i've seen in pro wrestling in the past two years. Also, I don't think too many of the "up and commers" could have made it look as good Orton does. However I do agree that you need to mix his programs to not only be legends, but also the fresh competitors like shelton, and edge. Also I gotta give credit, I would say after watching all the OVW alumni "evolve" (no pun intended) this year, I say Orton is the best out of all of them. But if we are talking about giving him another gimmick, here are some that might be good for him... Have him team with Al Snow. He could put one of those green bay hats on, and you can call them head chee....oh, i guess that was done already. Maybe you can harrassed and sacrificed by the undertaker, only to bring back Cowboy Bob and have him align with Mick Foley to help him get his son back, go into a fued with UT, find out the Taker is working for a higher power....and the higher power is.....COWBOY BOB! Yes it was me alllll along!! HAHAHAHA..... Whats that you say?....oh yeah...I guess they did do that a few years ago.. Hey how bout this... you could make him a second generation superstar...Who wants to get out of the shadow of his father....so instead of being known as the son of a legend... have all his daddy's friends talk about changing his diapers....and have him kick all there asses....umm....yeah....you could call him a....."old timer beater"....no that dont sound right killing all these legends legends...legend..."Legend Killer" Some things should just be left as they are I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 3rd generation, actually.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redbaron29 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Ok third generation, my bad The whole point of the rant is its better to haveRandy Orton "legend killer" than Randy Orton "Gobbledygooker" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 how about they do an angle where randy orton is triple h's clone. then they find out that randy is the original and triple h is the clone and he just wiped randys memory thats why he doesnt know how to wrestle for shit. ....and then they bukkake Miss Jackie. I DID IT!!! I FINALLY GOT TO SAY THAT IN A POST!!! ...and now the joke is dead. D'OH Anyhow, back to the point of this post. I would love to see him against AA, Harley Race, Tito Santana, maybe Greg "The Hammer" Valentine. It would get cheap fan favorite pop, and marks would be angry that he beat their favorite childhood wrestlers. EDIT: He could even wrestle Pat Patterson. The crowd would go BANANA!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 how about they do an angle where randy orton is triple h's clone. then they find out that randy is the original and triple h is the clone and he just wiped randys memory thats why he doesnt know how to wrestle for shit. ....and then they bukkake Miss Jackie. I DID IT!!! I FINALLY GOT TO SAY THAT IN A POST!!! ...and now the joke is dead. D'OH Anyhow, back to the point of this post. I would love to see him against AA, Harley Race, Tito Santana, maybe Greg "The Hammer" Valentine. It would get cheap fan favorite pop, and marks would be angry that he beat their favorite childhood wrestlers. EDIT: He could even wrestle Pat Patterson. The crowd would go BANANA!!! He takes on the first IC champion Pat patterson....... in a dreaded IWA... BATHHOUSE match scary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites