Cartman 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 When has a player ever chosen a team because of a manager? Beltran will select the best offer, just like any other free agent. Give me a couple days to think it over and I guarentee you I'll come up with a player. Curt Schilling(Francona) Also, if Manny tried to slide he probably woulda been out. Finally, Bellhorn, while I think he is nothing special, hit 27 HR's 2 years ago while playing for the Rockies. Yes Colorado is a HR enhancer, but 27 is still pretty decent. Therefore Bellhoen hitting a HR isnt THAT shocking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 When has a player ever chosen a team because of a manager? Beltran will select the best offer, just like any other free agent. Give me a couple days to think it over and I guarentee you I'll come up with a player. Curt Schilling(Francona) Also, if Manny tried to slide he probably woulda been out. Finally, Bellhorn, while I think he is nothing special, hit 27 HR's 2 years ago while playing for the Rockies. Yes Colorado is a HR enhancer, but 27 is still pretty decent. Therefore Bellhoen hitting a HR isnt THAT shocking. Francosa manages the Red Sox because of Schilling, not the other way around. And Bellhorn was on the CUBS when he hit 27 home runs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Beltran should be traded by July too. We should get something for him now since the team is out of contention. As for players demanding to be traded, yeah, so? Just because the team likes the guy doesn't mean anything. Have you heard about their Spring "training"? I'd just let him go to free agency, and take the draft picks. Midseason trades rarely net quality players these days. With the draft picks, you get two chances to draft a star in next season's amateur draft. The Royals have David DeJesus waiting in the wings, so Beltran's departure, while bad, won't kill the Royals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 David DeJesus is not Carlos Beltran. That sort of crap will sink him quick. The KC Star here helped jinx DDJ big time. DeJesus is 2 for 20 at the moment. As for the draft, the compensation picks will be lower in the first round, so it's a crapshoot. I'd rather add more depth to the farm system and get some more pitching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 2 Part question. Will the Royals attempt to move Beltran before the trading deadline, and if so what are some possible desinations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 David DeJesus is not Carlos Beltran. That sort of crap will sink him quick. The KC Star here helped jinx DDJ big time. DeJesus is 2 for 20 at the moment. DeJesus isn't Beltran, but he's not joke. He holds a career .400 OBP. He's probably up a little early. Give him time. As for the draft, the compensation picks will be lower in the first round, so it's a crapshoot. I'd rather add more depth to the farm system and get some more pitching. Statistically, your chances of garnering star players are better in the draft. Most big name stars traded in the midseason garner middling prospects these days. Its just not a fair return on the investment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted May 8, 2004 If the Royals continue to suck (and I think they will), Beltran is gone in a second. My question is would the BoSox/Yanks go for him, or wait for the offseason to try and sign him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 The Yankees aren't exactly deep in minor league prospects. At some point in time they have to start rebuilding the farm system. Their best bet is too wait until the offseason and sign Belran has a free agent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Twins take a 9-7 lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Ken Macha needs to be fired. He has no clue what a LOOGY is. It stands for lefty one-out guy. Ricardo Rincon is a LOOGY. He got his one man to end the 7th. YOU NEED TO TAKE HIM OUT THEN!!!! He pulled the same shit in the Yankee series with Rincon. Took the A's bullpen one night to get back to it's normal self. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Phillies beat Arizona 4-1. Good start for the road trip to beat Randy Johnson. Thome hits his 10th homer and Wagner picks up the save and pops his K/BB ratio to 21:0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 8, 2004 2 Part question. Will the Royals attempt to move Beltran before the trading deadline, and if so what are some possible desinations? I think he goes to LA since Dave Roberts won't live forever. Wouldn't be surprised to see a Joe Thurston and Edwin Jackson for Beltran trade if Beltran is willing to sign an extension right there. Also, one AL East team came back from a 6-2 defecit while another AL East team didn't. Time for Anglesault to go on destroy mode once more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Nathan walks in the tying run. Dueling bullpens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Ken Macha needs to be fired. He has no clue what a LOOGY is. It stands for lefty one-out guy. Ricardo Rincon is a LOOGY. He got his one man to end the 7th. YOU NEED TO TAKE HIM OUT THEN!!!! He pulled the same shit in the Yankee series with Rincon. Took the A's bullpen one night to get back to it's normal self. I hear ya man. I cried many tears when he was named Howe's replacement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 WTF WTF WTF is Frank Menechino doing up to bat? Damn you Macha..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Fucking Shit 1-2 count and Mulholland throws the ball right over the damn plate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 *Note to self: Stay off TSM when drinking heavily* SO anyways Schilling was all set on going to the Yankees until Boston popped in with news that if he decided to accept the trade to Boston they would hire Francona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Ken Macha needs to be fired. He has no clue what a LOOGY is. It stands for lefty one-out guy. Ricardo Rincon is a LOOGY. He got his one man to end the 7th. YOU NEED TO TAKE HIM OUT THEN!!!! He pulled the same shit in the Yankee series with Rincon. Oakland doesn't acquire pitchers so they can be LOOGYs. They intend for them to pitch to all hitters. Platoon splits are usually not so pronounced that they justify incessantly changing pitchers. Hitters have hit only .247 against Rincon, career. That's not bad. Blame Billy Beane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 *Note to self: Stay off TSM when drinking heavily* SO anyways Schilling was all set on going to the Yankees until Boston popped in with news that if he decided to accept the trade to Boston they would hire Francona. I'm sure the contract extension helped. Again, the Sox acquired Francona BECAUSE they acquired Schilling. Not the other way around. Beltran will not give up a 5 year contract because Tony Pena manages the Royals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Also, one AL East team came back from a 6-2 defecit while another AL East team didn't. Time for Anglesault to go on destroy mode once more I just don't fucking understand this team. I selpt through the game, because I had an awful feeling. I wake up to see they were manhandled by the Mariners. I just don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 After having to watch Juan Gonzalez every day, i'm close to hoping he doesn't make the hall of fame, just to spite his lazy ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted May 8, 2004 The Greatness of The Beltran all about Beltran's evolution from super awesome to ultra mega awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Also, one AL East team came back from a 6-2 defecit while another AL East team didn't. Time for Anglesault to go on destroy mode once more I just don't fucking understand this team. I selpt through the game, because I had an awful feeling. I wake up to see they were manhandled by the Mariners. I just don't get it. It's called baseball. Have you ever heard of a team going 162-0 or anywhere close to it? As tough as it is to swallow, every team loses their fair share of games during the season. And damn the Twins. This is the second time in a week that I've stayed up to watch the game, just because I couldn't imagine watching so much and missing the ending. Joe Nathan blows his first save of the season after a fairly comfortable two-run lead in the 8th. And Santana gets his ass kicked around, which makes sense since I just picked him up last week after dropping Nomo. At least I had Zambrano's gem level things out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Also, one AL East team came back from a 6-2 defecit while another AL East team didn't. Time for Anglesault to go on destroy mode once more I just don't fucking understand this team. I selpt through the game, because I had an awful feeling. I wake up to see they were manhandled by the Mariners. I just don't get it. It's called baseball. Have you ever heard of a team going 162-0 or anywhere close to it? As tough as it is to swallow, every team loses their fair share of games during the season. I've heard of teams feasting on the shit of the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 The Mariners aren't as bad a team as their record indicates. Baseball is a game of percentages, and sometimes it bites you, no matter how good your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OctoberBlood Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Damn good performance by Paul Wilson today. Much needed. Griffey and Larkin both have bombs. Nothing from Barry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 8, 2004 The Mariners aren't as bad a team as their record indicates. I despise that excuse. They're a good team that just can't seem to win? Newsflash: That means they're bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Pokey Reese - .265 BA, 2 homers, 12RBI Derek Jeter - .183 BA, 1 homer, 9RBI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 The Mariners aren't as bad a team as their record indicates. I despise that excuse. They're a good team that just can't seem to win? Newsflash: That means they're bad. Not necessarily. It means they haven't played well recently. But you can not judge players solely on their most recent performances. You need to take more data into account. Most of the hitters on the Mariners should hit better than they have, and they will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 8, 2004 The Mariners aren't as bad a team as their record indicates. I despise that excuse. They're a good team that just can't seem to win? Newsflash: That means they're bad. Not necessarily. It means they haven't played well recently. Have they played well all year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites