Should Kerry be Torecellied?

[Some Guy 0]

I think most Republicans felt the same way in 96. The article brought up teh Dole campaign, which has some similarities, although I can't remember Dole acting like such a douchebag. The picture on the bike is beyond goofy. and is it really necessary to get dressed up like a complete moron to ride a bike? This goes to all these spandex clad nimrods who ride around on bikes and obstruct traffic.

 

Dole and Kerry both showed/have shown a total lack of charisma. Dole decided that he had to act "presidential" from what I can surmise. If you've seen him in more recent interviews he is rather funny and charming. I'm not sure Kerry is, as Mathews said in the article the guy is always on guard and "in character".

 

But, ABB and anybody but Clinton or whatever is a rather dangerous stance to take. To assume that John Kerry can do a better job because his name is not George Bush is stupid.

 

Someone asked if this is the best they can do. The answer is yes. The Dems are so strapped for new talent that they had to bring Mondale out of his rocking chair to run for Senate in Minn after the incumbant (who's name escapes me died in the plane crash) and replaced Toricele(SP?) with another fossil. Where have I heard the line "you need to make new stars" before?

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Wellstone was the guy that died if I remember correctly.

[NoCalMike 0]

I think most Republicans felt the same way in 96. The article brought up teh Dole campaign, which has some similarities, although I can't remember Dole acting like such a douchebag. The picture on the bike is beyond goofy. and is it really necessary to get dressed up like a complete moron to ride a bike? This goes to all these spandex clad nimrods who ride around on bikes and obstruct traffic.

 

Dole and Kerry both showed/have shown a total lack of charisma. Dole decided that he had to act "presidential" from what I can surmise. If you've seen him in more recent interviews he is rather funny and charming. I'm not sure Kerry is, as Mathews said in the article the guy is always on guard and "in character".

 

But, ABB and anybody but Clinton or whatever is a rather dangerous stance to take. To assume that John Kerry can do a better job because his name is not George Bush is stupid.

 

Someone asked if this is the best they can do. The answer is yes. The Dems are so strapped for new talent that they had to bring Mondale out of his rocking chair to run for Senate in Minn after the incumbant (who's name escapes me died in the plane crash) and replaced Toricele(SP?) with another fossil. Where have I heard the line "you need to make new stars" before?

the difference though is that Dole was never really shown to be close in the polls either. Kerry is. Also, Clinton was not in the middle of situations like this, where one false step or great achievement could affect the election all by itself.

 

Hell, Kerry could be up by 5 points today, and then next month gas prices go down and Bush goes up over Kerry by 10 points.

 

We are living in a time right now where the country seems to be walking on eggshells, and it won't take very much to tip the people from one side to another, no matter which side it happens to be.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

People said the same about Bush. And I don't know why you think this either, 30% of voters are swing (as of that report), you really think just saying "this guy isn't Bush" is going to win them over?

No, but most of the stuff that's OMG SCARY about Kerry is the pot calling the kettle black.

 

HOLY CRAP JOHN KERRY IS RICH AND OUT OF TOUCH WITH ORDINARY AMERICANS.

 

The son of a career politician who's been set for life isn't? Just because he likes to live on a ranch doesn't exactly mean he's out there keeping it real with Maw' and Paw' down in Povertyville.

 

Your point is, presumbly, Bush flip-flops too. I agree, but the best way to counter it is to have another guy who flip flops? Riiiight.

 

Ideally no, but all the charges of flip-floping are coming from one side, the most quotable quotables coming from Mr. "You know when I say something, I mean it" himself. Again: Pot, Kettle, Black.

 

You (or maybe someone else...not sure) posted that before and its still not funny. As for the rest of it, see my first comment.

 

Must have been someone else. I was gone all last week, and only just saw it as soon as I came back.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

I think most Republicans felt the same way in 96. The article brought up teh Dole campaign, which has some similarities, although I can't remember Dole acting like such a douchebag. The picture on the bike is beyond goofy. and is it really necessary to get dressed up like a complete moron to ride a bike? This goes to all these spandex clad nimrods who ride around on bikes and obstruct traffic.

If you've ever done some serious biking you would know that clothing is absolutely the best, most comfortable stuff to wear for a good bike workout. I always wear my USPS team jersey when I bike now. As for obstructing traffic, boo fucking hoo, it's not hard to go around someone on a bike.

[Some Guy 0]

I think most Republicans felt the same way in 96.  The article brought up teh Dole campaign, which has some similarities, although I can't remember Dole acting like such a douchebag.  The picture on the bike is beyond goofy.  and is it really necessary to get dressed up like a complete moron to ride a bike?  This goes to all these spandex clad nimrods who ride around on bikes and obstruct traffic.

If you've ever done some serious biking you would know that clothing is absolutely the best, most comfortable stuff to wear for a good bike workout. I always wear my USPS team jersey when I bike now. As for obstructing traffic, boo fucking hoo, it's not hard to go around someone on a bike.

It is when they zig zag and abrubtly jet out into the street or stay several feet away from the curb. We've spent tons of money on bike paths in MA; why can't people just ride on them and stay off the street. Same goes for joggers. There is a perfectly good sidewalk on just about every street, jog on that, not the street. The street is for automobiles.

 

WHether or not they're comfortable maks no difference, they are still really goofy looking, especially on a 60 year old man like John Kerry.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

I think most Republicans felt the same way in 96.  The article brought up teh Dole campaign, which has some similarities, although I can't remember Dole acting like such a douchebag.  The picture on the bike is beyond goofy.  and is it really necessary to get dressed up like a complete moron to ride a bike?  This goes to all these spandex clad nimrods who ride around on bikes and obstruct traffic.

If you've ever done some serious biking you would know that clothing is absolutely the best, most comfortable stuff to wear for a good bike workout. I always wear my USPS team jersey when I bike now. As for obstructing traffic, boo fucking hoo, it's not hard to go around someone on a bike.

It is when they zig zag and abrubtly jet out into the street or stay several feet away from the curb. We've spent tons of money on bike paths in MA; why can't people just ride on them and stay off the street. Same goes for joggers. There is a perfectly good sidewalk on just about every street, jog on that, not the street. The street is for automobiles.

 

WHether or not they're comfortable maks no difference, they are still really goofy looking, especially on a 60 year old man like John Kerry.

1. Bikers are supposed to bike on the road, not the sidewalk. In fact in many cities biking on the sidewalk is finable (as is riding without a helmet, which does not get enforced nearly enough).

 

2. Bikes like the one Kerry is riding (road cycles) are meant to be used on paved roads, not paths. These bikes are not mountain bikes and cannot handle abnormal ground conditions without becoming unstable.

 

I agree that people who zigzag around on the road are idiots and need to learn to control themselves. But on most roads in North America there is more than enough space to bike between the traffic and the curve, provided the drivers are staying in the marked lanes and not driving like assholes or trying to pass people on the soft shoulder (which is illegal last time I checked).

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Generally, I think the problem a lot of motorists have with bicyclists is that nobody can safely pedal a bike up to the speed that the motorist wants to travel at, so anyone behind the cyclist often gets furious.

 

People need to start leaving for their events and appointments earlier and stop being in such a rush these days.

[EricMM 0]

In the state of MD, a bike is considered a "vehicle" and thus is SUPPOSED to be used on the road. I bike to and from work everyday. I have for a year now. There is nothing worse than assholes who have to lean on their horn and scream at you when they pass you because you're on your bike. As if there is anything more likely to cause an accident.

 

I have every legal right to bike in the middle of the fucking lane if I want to, and if there's no shoulder, I HAVE to. Of course I don't, because I don't trust College Park drivers AT ALL. But roads ARE for bikes, if you feel otherwise take it up with your local lawmaker.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

In the state of MD, a bike is considered a "vehicle" and thus is SUPPOSED to be used on the road. I bike to and from work everyday. I have for a year now. There is nothing worse than assholes who have to lean on their horn and scream at you when they pass you because you're on your bike. As if there is anything more likely to cause an accident.

 

I have every legal right to bike in the middle of the fucking lane if I want to, and if there's no shoulder, I HAVE to. Of course I don't, because I don't trust College Park drivers AT ALL. But roads ARE for bikes, if you feel otherwise take it up with your local lawmaker.

Have you ever taken a license plate down and reported it to the police?

 

People need to start leaving for their events and appointments earlier and stop being in such a rush these days.

 

Amen. If you're such in a damn hurry you should have leave 5 minutes earlier. Then you wouldn't be behind my slow ass.

 

On a related note. On Sunday the better half and I went to Wal-Mart and we parked next to some HUGE ass vehicle. It looked like a van but it resembled a tank. Anyway, when we got out the dad of the family got out of this tank and just walked over to see if we scratched his side when we opened the driver's side door. Being the asshole I am I walked up next to him and began inspecting our side of the car as well. If you don't want your vehicle scratched then get one that fits into a parking space, douche.

 

I hate people...

[Guest MikeSC]

In the state of MD, a bike is considered a "vehicle" and thus is SUPPOSED to be used on the road.  I bike to and from work everyday.  I have for a year now.  There is nothing worse than assholes who have to lean on their horn and scream at you when they pass you because you're on your bike.  As if there is anything more likely to cause an accident.

 

I have every legal right to bike in the middle of the fucking lane if I want to, and if there's no shoulder, I HAVE to.  Of course I don't, because I don't trust College Park drivers AT ALL.  But roads ARE for bikes, if you feel otherwise take it up with your local lawmaker.

Have you ever taken a license plate down and reported it to the police?

 

People need to start leaving for their events and appointments earlier and stop being in such a rush these days.

 

Amen. If you're such in a damn hurry you should have leave 5 minutes earlier. Then you wouldn't be behind my slow ass.

 

On a related note. On Sunday the better half and I went to Wal-Mart and we parked next to some HUGE ass vehicle. It looked like a van but it resembled a tank. Anyway, when we got out the dad of the family got out of this tank and just walked over to see if we scratched his side when we opened the driver's side door. Being the asshole I am I walked up next to him and began inspecting our side of the car as well. If you don't want your vehicle scratched then get one that fits into a parking space, douche.

 

I hate people...

If you want fun, cut off somebody speeding and BARELY go the speed limit --- then watch them flip out in your rear view mirror. I almost had some douche ready to get out of his truck and attack me yesterday.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

If you want fun, cut off somebody speeding and BARELY go the speed limit --- then watch them flip out in your rear view mirror. I almost had some douche ready to get out of his truck and attack me yesterday.

-=Mike

In the Deep South? I'm shocked.

 

Actually, I'm a pretty passive driver -- until you try to mess with me...

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

If you want fun, cut off somebody speeding and BARELY go the speed limit --- then watch them flip out in your rear view mirror. I almost had some douche ready to get out of his truck and attack me yesterday.

-=Mike

With good fucking reason. I hate morons that do that kind of bullshit because they think it's funny. Whenever I have some safety conscious jerk think he can affect how I want to drive, I usually speed up until I'm about 10-15 inches away from his back bumper. Go ahead and brake check me, dicksmack, I'm walking away from that wreck fine, whereas you might have trouble removing my 4x4 Silverado Extended cab from your rectum. I'm usually speeding enough to where no one will sensibly try to pass me to do that sort of thing, though.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

OK, AOO, you seem to be an agressive driver, so I must ask:

 

Why do "your people" insist on speeding during rush hour? I mean, it's not like you'll be going anywhere...

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Well, my rush hour and your rush hour are two totally different things. Most of the time, I'm driving either on chip 'n seal country backroads or big wide interstate highways. I'd flip out if I were choked up in traffic in some metropolitan area. The rush hour here is a bunch of junkers and big trucks like mine all hauling ass to get home or get to work.

 

We drive faster because it's faster.

[Guest MikeSC]

If you want fun, cut off somebody speeding and BARELY go the speed limit --- then watch them flip out in your rear view mirror. I almost had some douche ready to get out of his truck and attack me yesterday.

              -=Mike

With good fucking reason. I hate morons that do that kind of bullshit because they think it's funny. Whenever I have some safety conscious jerk think he can affect how I want to drive, I usually speed up until I'm about 10-15 inches away from his back bumper. Go ahead and brake check me, dicksmack, I'm walking away from that wreck fine, whereas you might have trouble removing my 4x4 Silverado Extended cab from your rectum. I'm usually speeding enough to where no one will sensibly try to pass me to do that sort of thing, though.

Oh, I wouldn't care if they hit my car. I'd simply sue them and get enough money to get a nicer car out of their insurance company. One shouldn't screw with somebody in a mediocre car.

 

Like I'm going to speed to please an irate Bubba.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

OK, AOO, you seem to be an agressive driver, so I must ask:

 

Why do "your people" insist on speeding during rush hour? I mean, it's not like you'll be going anywhere...

My father is also one of those AOO kind of drivers who get real close to people to scare 'em if they do something intentionally stupid.

 

He doesn't go on the freeway during rush hour unless there's a death, a birth, or a fire involved.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Just to draw this transportation tangent back to the original topic, anyone else think this "whose bus was made where" nonsense to be the most pathetic non-issue yet? I did get a kick out of Begala and Novak on Crossfire today though, bragging about how the CNN Election Express was "100% American made" (anyone want to bet you will find some components on that bus made in Asia and/or Mexico if you look?).

[Some Guy 0]

1. Bikers are supposed to bike on the road, not the sidewalk. In fact in many cities biking on the sidewalk is finable (as is riding without a helmet, which does not get enforced nearly enough).

I understand this, it does not however mean that they are not in the way. Assome one else said, bikers cannot go as fast as a car and this riding more than a foot from the curb shit that they love so much fucks up traffic.

 

2. Bikes like the one Kerry is riding (road cycles) are meant to be used on paved roads, not paths. These bikes are not mountain bikes and cannot handle abnormal ground conditions without becoming unstable.

 

Bike paths in MA are paved and there are several of them and they are quite long. The Minuteman path goes on for miles through Lexington, Arlington, and into Cambridge. It is built for people to ride bikes on, the streets are built for people to drive cars on. It's quite simple.

 

I agree that people who zigzag around on the road are idiots and need to learn to control themselves. But on most roads in North America there is more than enough space to bike between the traffic and the curve, provided the drivers are staying in the marked lanes and not driving like assholes or trying to pass people on the soft shoulder (which is illegal last time I checked).

 

OK, but the zig-zaggers are the rule, not the exeption. And just watch how drivers react to a biker on the road. They sloww down tot eh bikers speed and then very slowly pass them. This causes a back up in traffic, that could easily be averted if bikers rode their bikes on the bike paths that taxpayers of the Commonwealth paid millions of dollars to provide.

 

In the state of MD, a bike is considered a "vehicle" and thus is SUPPOSED to be used on the road. I bike to and from work everyday. I have for a year now. There is nothing worse than assholes who have to lean on their horn and scream at you when they pass you because you're on your bike. As if there is anything more likely to cause an accident.

 

I have every legal right to bike in the middle of the fucking lane if I want to, and if there's no shoulder, I HAVE to. Of course I don't, because I don't trust College Park drivers AT ALL. But roads ARE for bikes, if you feel otherwise take it up with your local lawmaker.

 

It can be considered a vehicle all it wants, but that doesn't make it one. You can call ketchup a vegetable, but it's not. People who bike to work are teh exception, unless there are a lot of work places that allow brightly colored spandex and sweaty emplyees. Have you considered that the reason people honk at you is that maybe, just maybe YOU'RE IN THE WAY!

 

Maybe you should consider what you should do as opposed to what you have the right to do. You may have the right to flip off a member of the Hell's Angels but that doesn't make it a good idea and neither is riding your bike in teh middle of the road. It shouldn't be an issue of trust in the drivers, by being on the road you've created another obstacle, an unpredictable one at that. Drivers are more fearful of hitting a biker than bikers are of being hit. At least logic would state that considering the way most bikers ride and the way drivers slow downa dn go way out of their way to avoid them.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Drivers are more fearful of hitting a biker than bikers are of being hit.

 

Not this one. Vroom vroom.

[Firestarter 0]

The problem is simple. Bicycles are gay, spandex is gay, and bicycle helmets are gay, and we like manly Presidents. This isn't France.

 

John Kerry is an unappealing blend of George Costanza and Niles Crane with the charm of neither. His doleful eyes always make him look like he's about to burst into tears, and it doesn't help that his wife is (by far) the more assertive of the two. Can you picture President Bush saying "Yes dear, no dear, yes dear" to the First Lady as she berates him for ordering a substandard caviar? Can you picture Kerry saying "Yes dear, no dear, yes dear" to Teresa? Which couple do you think is more likely to have signed a prenuptial agreement?

 

Case closed.

[Guest MikeSC]

The problem is simple. Bicycles are gay, spandex is gay, and bicycle helmets are gay, and we like manly Presidents. This isn't France.

 

John Kerry is an unappealing blend of George Costanza and Niles Crane with the charm of neither. His doleful eyes always make him look like he's about to burst into tears, and it doesn't help that his wife is (by far) the more assertive of the two. Can you picture President Bush saying "Yes dear, no dear, yes dear" to the First Lady as she berates him for ordering a substandard caviar? Can you picture Kerry saying "Yes dear, no dear, yes dear" to Teresa? Which couple do you think is more likely to have signed a prenuptial agreement?

 

Case closed.

O-U-C-H.

-=Mike

"Vote Kerry --- He's P-Whipped Like the Rest of You Nancy-Boys"

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

The problem is simple. Bicycles are gay, spandex is gay, and bicycle helmets are gay, and we like manly Presidents. This isn't France.

 

John Kerry is an unappealing blend of George Costanza and Niles Crane with the charm of neither. His doleful eyes always make him look like he's about to burst into tears, and it doesn't help that his wife is (by far) the more assertive of the two. Can you picture President Bush saying "Yes dear, no dear, yes dear" to the First Lady as she berates him for ordering a substandard caviar? Can you picture Kerry saying "Yes dear, no dear, yes dear" to Teresa? Which couple do you think is more likely to have signed a prenuptial agreement?

 

Case closed.

There's a scooter joke to be made here...

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

and about a dozen jokes about dykes on bikes...

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Can you picture Kerry saying "Yes dear, no dear, yes dear" to Teresa? Which couple do you think is more likely to have signed a prenuptial agreement?

Heck yeah. First off, Kerry is a master at taking orders -- he served in Vietnam you know.

 

And I wouldn't blame Teresa one bit for yelling at Kerry for ordering bad fish eggs.

 

She would have been to one that paid for the cavair, after all...

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Bicycles are gay, spandex is gay, and bicycle helmets are gay, and we like manly Presidents. This isn't France.

[Firestarter 0]

He pitched a strike in the World Series. Shut it.

[Guest MikeSC]

He pitched a strike in the World Series. Shut it.

And, for what it's worth, Laura is markedly hotter than Theresa. Theresa is a freaky looking woman to have wearing the penis in their relationship.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

At least Bush didn't call a S.S. agent a naughty name when he stumbled on that goofy contraption...

[EricMM 0]

I would just like to add to this conversation that I was just completely hit by a car today on my ride to work.

 

I was at a crosswalk, about to cross when some guy peeled out and was looking left when turning right. My front half of the bike is fubar. I'm fine but still. Man.

 

MY BIKE :(