Your team's worst trade(s) ever

[HarleyQuinn 0]

Boston Red Sox

-Traded Tris Speaker to Cleveland for Sam Jones(Pitched 4 seasons, going 23-16 in his final season as a Sox before heading to New York), Fred Thomas(Only lasted 1 season with the Sox out of 3 in his career) and $55,000

 

-Traded Babe Ruth to the Evil Empire for $$

 

-Traded Johnny Pesky at age 32(along with Walt Dropo, Fred Hatfield, Bill Wight and Don Lenhardt) to Detroit for Dizzy Trout(Was 37 and played 1 season for the Sox), George Kell(Played 1 season before getting traded), Johnny Lipon(Played 2 half seasons, awful hitter) and Hoot Evers(Played 1 season)

 

-Traded Reggie Smith(Age 29) in 1974 along with Ken Tatum to St. Louis for Rick Wise(Played 4 seasons, did have a 19-12 record in one season though) and Bernie Carbo(Instrumental in the 1975 postseason but not much else)

 

-Traded Fred Lynn to California(Age 29) with Steve Renko to California for Frank Tanana(Went 4-10 in his sole season), Jim Dorsey(Only pitched 4 games for us) and Joe Rudi(Hit .180 for the sole season)

 

-Traded Jeff Bagwell to Houston for Larry Andersen(1.23 ERA for the Sox in 22 IP in his only 'season')

[treble 0]

Traded to Los Angeles Kings by Edmonton Oilers with Mike Krushelnyski and Marty McSorley for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, Los Angeles Kings' 1st round choice in 1989 (later acquired by New Jersey, who selected Jason Miller), 1991 (Martin Rucinsky) and 1993 (Nick Stajduhar) Entry Drafts and cash, August 9, 1988

 

And hey. We actually had the guy that's helping the Flames get a playoff run (he'd be Martin Gelinas). Does anyone else remember anyone from that listing that did anything? Neither did I.

 

The stupidest trade ever. Honestly, it made no sense at all.

 

Or even more recently:

 

30-Jun-03: New York Rangers traded Brian Leetch to the Edmonton Oilers for Jussi Markkanen and a 4th round selection in 2004.

 

03-Mar-04: New York Rangers traded Petr Nedved and Jussi Markkanen to the Edmonton Oilers for Stephen Valiquette, Dwight Helminen and a 2nd round selection in 2004.

 

Why did we trade away Jussi Markkanen, and then trade for him right back is what I'd like to know. Why trade him away if you still wanted the guy in the first place?

-The Gretzky trade. They couldn't afford him so they traded him, makes perfect sense to me. And Marty McSorley had a pretty eventfull career (illegal curve in the '93 finals, the Brashear thing), Mike Krushelnyski played for the Leafs when they went to the Conference finals in '93 and '94, and Rucinsky's still in the league, too.

 

-They traded Markkanen since they already had Salo and Conklin and they wanted the compensatory picks that they would get when Leetch signed with someone (the Rangers, as it turned out). They got Markkanen back when they needed someone after they traded Salo, and Markkanen was an NHL-ready guy and Valiquette wasn't (well, at least for a team that wanted to make the playoffs).

[Ripper 0]

Hey, Rip, would it be quicker to name GOOD trades the Hawks have been a party to? Getting Mookie was great --- but I'm drawing blanks for the rest. Can't remember who was traded to get Rahim.

-=Mike

First, the Sonics traded Pippen for Olden Polynese...and the Sonics traded Dominic Wilkins if I remember correctly...

 

And the Hawks got Abdur-Rahim for Lorenzen Wright and Brevin Knight I believe. that was a pretty good trade. I think I am done after that.

 

...

 

 

OH!! They traded Grant long and some one else for Steve Smith in Miami. That took them to the second round of the playoffs for a few years. And who ever they traded to get Mutumbo and Latner.

 

They had common sense for like 2 years there.

[alfdogg 0]

The Sonics trading Scotty Pippen way back when, I think. I can't remember who it was for, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Damn...I forgot all about Pippen for OLDEN POLYNICE.

 

As far as the Rahim trade goes:

 

Hawks got: Shareef Abdur-Rahim and the draft rights to Jamaal Tinsley

Grizzlies got: Lorenzen Wright, Brevin Knight, and the draft rights to Pau Gasol.

 

Tinsley was eventually traded to the Pacers for this year's first-round pick, which was used to pick Boris Diaw.

[Ripper 0]

The Sonics trading Scotty Pippen way back when, I think. I can't remember who it was for, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Damn...I forgot all about Pippen for OLDEN POLYNICE.

 

As far as the Rahim trade goes:

 

Hawks got: Shareef Abdur-Rahim and the draft rights to Jamaal Tinsley

Grizzlies got: Lorenzen Wright, Brevin Knight, and the draft rights to Pau Gasol.

 

Tinsley was eventually traded to the Pacers for this year's first-round pick, which was used to pick Boris Diaw.

That just worked out for everyone...until the Hawks traded Rahim for Wesly FUCKING PERSON.

[alfdogg 0]

Hey, Rip, would it be quicker to name GOOD trades the Hawks have been a party to? Getting Mookie was great --- but I'm drawing blanks for the rest. Can't remember who was traded to get Rahim.

                  -=Mike

First, the Sonics traded Pippen for Olden Polynese...and the Sonics traded Dominic Wilkins if I remember correctly...

 

And the Hawks got Abdur-Rahim for Lorenzen Wright and Brevin Knight I believe. that was a pretty good trade. I think I am done after that.

 

...

 

 

OH!! They traded Grant long and some one else for Steve Smith in Miami. That took them to the second round of the playoffs for a few years. And who ever they traded to get Mutumbo and Latner.

 

They had common sense for like 2 years there.

It was actually the Jazz who drafted and traded Wilkins.

 

The other trade you're referring to was Steve Smith, Grant Long and a 2nd round pick to Atlanta for Kevin Willis and a 1st round pick.

[Lightning Flik 0]

-The Gretzky trade. They couldn't afford him so they traded him, makes perfect sense to me. And Marty McSorley had a pretty eventfull career (illegal curve in the '93 finals, the Brashear thing), Mike Krushelnyski played for the Leafs when they went to the Conference finals in '93 and '94, and Rucinsky's still in the league, too.

 

-They traded Markkanen since they already had Salo and Conklin and they wanted the compensatory picks that they would get when Leetch signed with someone (the Rangers, as it turned out). They got Markkanen back when they needed someone after they traded Salo, and Markkanen was an NHL-ready guy and Valiquette wasn't (well, at least for a team that wanted to make the playoffs).

For who we got in return, it doesn't really seem like it was worth it. And I mean we didn't really get any of those guys for a long time.

 

As for the Markkanen trade, I really don't like that one. If you are so confident in having Markkanen during the season, to trade Salo away, why not trade Salo at the start of the season, and have Markkanen and Conklin go at it all season? I mean, no offense to Salo, but Markkanen and Conklin (as a group) would've been much better than him. Hell, I always said we should've traded Salo last season and made Markkanen and Conklin duel start for the starting spot. Not like it would hurt anything.

 

The second one just doesn't make any sense in the fact that we traded to get him right back? Why? That's silly. Honestly. I mean, I get it from the Leetch signing point of view (I had not known that), but still. Just silly stuff.

[alfdogg 0]

That just worked out for everyone...until the Hawks traded Rahim for Wesly FUCKING PERSON.

*And* Theo Ratliff...don't forget that...

[Ripper 0]

Hey, Rip, would it be quicker to name GOOD trades the Hawks have been a party to? Getting Mookie was great --- but I'm drawing blanks for the rest. Can't remember who was traded to get Rahim.

                  -=Mike

First, the Sonics traded Pippen for Olden Polynese...and the Sonics traded Dominic Wilkins if I remember correctly...

 

And the Hawks got Abdur-Rahim for Lorenzen Wright and Brevin Knight I believe. that was a pretty good trade. I think I am done after that.

 

...

 

 

OH!! They traded Grant long and some one else for Steve Smith in Miami. That took them to the second round of the playoffs for a few years. And who ever they traded to get Mutumbo and Latner.

 

They had common sense for like 2 years there.

It was actually the Jazz who drafted and traded Wilkins.

 

The other trade you're referring to was Steve Smith, Grant Long and a 2nd round pick to Atlanta for Kevin Willis and a 1st round pick.

dumbass Jazz. I knew it was one of the two.

 

And that Grant long Smith for Willis trade worked out pretty well for the Hawks too.

 

What was funny is that they got in this big ass brawl in the first round of the playoffs and then traded with each other just a little later. And the main players envolved in the brawl were the ones traded for one another.

[alfdogg 0]

Oh, how could I forget:

 

DENNIS RODMAN FOR WILL PERDUE.

[nl5xsk1 0]

-The Gretzky trade.  They couldn't afford him so they traded him, makes perfect sense to me.  And Marty McSorley had a pretty eventfull career (illegal curve in the '93 finals, the Brashear thing), Mike Krushelnyski played for the Leafs when they went to the Conference finals in '93 and '94, and Rucinsky's still in the league, too.

For who we got in return, it doesn't really seem like it was worth it. And I mean we didn't really get any of those guys for a long time.

When the trade was made, it was thought that Jimmy Carson was going to be a 50-goal scorer, the kind of player you could build the team around. On paper it made sense, trade a guy that was going to be priced out of your price range (to California, too, which is where he wanted to go) for an alleged young superstar. The fact that Carson bombed is what made this trade so bad. And wasn't the "cash" in question like $15-million USD, too? Not bad scratch for a team that needed money.

 

The goalie thing for the other trade is just questionable in hindsight ... if the Oilers had played really well with Salo/Conklin, they wouldn't have reaquried Markkanen. Since they weren't going to win the Cup this year anyways, might as well move the older goalie and go with the two young kids.

[Guest MikeSC]

The Sonics trading Scotty Pippen way back when, I think. I can't remember who it was for, though, so maybe I'm wrong.

Damn...I forgot all about Pippen for OLDEN POLYNICE.

 

As far as the Rahim trade goes:

 

Hawks got: Shareef Abdur-Rahim and the draft rights to Jamaal Tinsley

Grizzlies got: Lorenzen Wright, Brevin Knight, and the draft rights to Pau Gasol.

 

Tinsley was eventually traded to the Pacers for this year's first-round pick, which was used to pick Boris Diaw.

Man, if the Hawks didn't trady a, you know, All-Star-caliber PFand darned good guy for, well, Chuck Person's kid brother --- that would've been terrific for all.

 

Instead, Atlanta, as usual, got the shaft.

 

Heck, I was shocked that they haven't made a play to get Doc Rivers as a coach --- he certainly can't be worse than Stotts.

-=Mike

[teke184 0]

Legendary bad trades-

 

Mets send Nolan Ryan to the Angels for Jim Fregosi

 

Cubs send Lou Brock to the Cardinals for a no-name (Ernie Broglio)

 

Reds send Christy Mathewson to the Giants for Amos Rusie, whose career ended soon afterwards

 

Reds send Frank Robinson to the Orioles for a no-name pitcher (Milt Pappas?)

[CanadianChris 0]

Mike Keane and Patrick Roy for Joceylin Thiabult, Andrei Kovalenco, and Martin Ruicinsky.

To be fair, the Habs had no choice, because Roy had already announced he would never wear the CH again. They were going to get fleeced no matter what. At least Thibault looked like he could be a decent goalie (which he turned out to be, just not in Montreal).

 

Pretty much any trade the Leafs made during the Harold Ballard era turned out to be a disaster, so I'll just mention the four most egregious:

 

3/3/68

To Detroit: LW Frank Mahovlich, C Pete Stemkowski, C Garry Unger, rights to D Carl Brewer

To Toronto: C Norm Ullman, RW Paul Henderson, RW Floyd Smith, D Doug Barrie

 

12/29/79

To Colorado: RW Lanny McDonald, D Joel Quenneville

To Toronto: LW Pat Hickey, RW Wilf Paiement

 

1/20/82

To Philadelphia: C Darryl Sittler

To Toronto: C Rich Costello, 2nd round draft pick (Peter Ihnacak), future considerations (Ken Strong)

 

11/7/88

To Montreal: RW Russ Courtnall

To Toronto: RW John Kordic, 6th round draft pick (Michael Doers)

 

As far as the Blue Jays go, the Clemens for Wells, Bush and Lloyd trade turned out pretty badly. The Bill Caudill and Tom Candiotti trades were also poor.

[the max 0]

Even though there aren't too many Flyers fans in the house:

 

Flyers get: Eric Lindros

Nordiques get: Ron Hextall, Steve Duschene, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, Peter Forsberg, a 1st rounder in 1993 and 1994 and cash.

 

Basically, the Nordiques could field a line (3F and 2D with a goalie) for one player. Plus, they got one of the premier players of the last decade in Forsberg, Ricci helped them along the stretch run as well.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Reds send Frank Robinson to the Orioles for a no-name pitcher (Milt Pappas?)

 

It was a bad trade, but Milt Pappas is far from a no-name pitcher. Pappas won 209 games, and had similar career stats of Don Drysdale.

[nl5xsk1 0]

Flyers get: Eric Lindros

Nordiques get: Peter Forsberg

That alone, as a straight up trade, would have been a bad trade for Phlly. Throw in the other guys, the pick and the cash, and it's got to be considered one of the worst trades in any sport, all time.

[alfdogg 0]

Mike, if you haven't heard, Stotts has been fired from the Hawks, and Rivers is the new coach of the Celtics.

[Guest MikeSC]

Mike, if you haven't heard, Stotts has been fired from the Hawks, and Rivers is the new coach of the Celtics.

I knew Stotts got fired. Heck, I barely knew he was hired. I was shocked that they didn't make a play for Rivers.

 

I don't know who they'll hire --- but I doubt it'll be good.

-=Mike

[sfaJack 0]

Who would TAKE the Hawks job? I mean, really...why would you?

[alfdogg 0]

I would. It beats $8 an hour on third shift stocking cereal and Faygo.

[A Happy Medium 0]

I have a feeling this Jeyshawn/Galloway trade may wind up being very onesided..don't know which way..but someone will get bitten by the injury bug...and bad.

 

How about the Bulls trading away Elton Brand, Ron Artest, and Brad Miller in pretty much a two year span? They got Jalen Rose and Tyson Chandler respectively from the trades. Tyson si going to have a short injury plagued career, while they traded Rose for Antonio F'n Davis.

[Guest Redhawk]

How about the Wizards NOT trading the No. 1 pick for Elton Brand? Kwame Brown is decent, but Brand could have teamed with MJ and taken them to the playoffs. And I hear the only reason MJ didn't do the trade was because Brand went to Duke and MJ went to UNC.

[smh810 0]

Bucs: (some trades some FA signings some draft picks)

Trading up to draft Kenyatta Walker

drafting Eric Curry

signing Alvin Harper

signing Bert Emanuel

drafting Reidel Anthony (although their other option would have been Rae Carruth)

 

Lightning:

Roman Hamrlik to Edmonton for Jason Bonsignore and Steve Kelly

Niklas Sundstrom to San Jose for Bill Houlder, Shawn Burr, Steve Guolla and Andrei Zyuzin (note: we traded the No.1 pick to the Rangers for Sundstrom and Dan Cloutier)

Michael Nylander to Chicago for Reid Simpson and Brian Muir

Rob Zamuner to Andreas Johannson and Rick Dudley (GM) and the one that trumps them all...

 

 

Alex Kharitonov and Adrian Aucoin to the Islanders for Mathieu Biron

 

Devil Rays:

 

I really don't feel like it right now.

[EVIL~! alkeiper 0]

Devil Rays:

 

I really don't feel like it right now.

 

I'll help. Bobby Abreu for Kevin Stocker

[DerangedHermit 0]

worst Mets trades:

- Nolan Ryan for Jim FUCKIN' Fregosi

- Carl Everett for John Hudek (I don't care if Carl Everett beat his kids, ya don't give him up for JOHN HUDEK...)

- Kevin Appier for Moo Vaughn

 

worst Rangers trades:

- Doug Weight for Esa Tikkanen (I love Esa, but.....)

- Ian Laperierre, Mattias Norstrom, Ray Ferraro and Nathan Lafayette for Jari Kurri, Marty McSorley & Shane Churla

- there are a few more...but I can't be bothered

[Dogbert 0]

Calgary Flames:

 

TO ST. LOUIS: Fred Brathwaite, Daniel Tkaczuk, Sergei Varlamov

TO CALGARY: Roman Turek

 

TO ST. LOUIS: Brett Hull

TO CALGARY: Rob Ramage, G Rick Wamsley

 

TO TORONTO: Doug Gilmour, Jamie Macoun, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Rick Wamsley

TO CALGARY: Gary Leeman, Alex Godynyuk, Craig Berube, Michel Petit, Jeff Reese.

 

Montreal Canadiens (other than the Roy trade)

 

TO PHILADELPHIA: Eric Desjardins, John Leclair, Gilbert Dionne

TO MONTREAL: Mark Recchi

 

TO ST. LOUIS: Pierre Turgeon, Rory Fitzpatrick, Craig Conroy

TO MONTREAL: Murray Baron, Shayne Corson, 5th-rounder

 

TO SAN JOSE: Vincent Damphousse

TO MONTREAL: 5th rounder in '99, 2nd rounder in 2000, futures

 

TO PHILADELPHIA: Mark Recchi

TO MONTREAL: Dainius Zubrus, conditional draft pick

[The Czech Republic 0]

Actually you pretty much nailed it on the Kobe deal. He said before the draft he'd only play for the Knicks, Bulls, or Lakers (three bigges t.v. markets). Just another reason to hate the guy.

What a little shit. I hope you get sent to the Bobcats.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Even though there aren't too many Flyers fans in the house:

 

Flyers get: Eric Lindros

Nordiques get: Ron Hextall, Steve Duschene, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, Peter Forsberg, a 1st rounder in 1993 and 1994 and cash.

 

Basically, the Nordiques could field a line (3F and 2D with a goalie) for one player. Plus, they got one of the premier players of the last decade in Forsberg, Ricci helped them along the stretch run as well.

That has to take the cake. All of the above had decent-good careers, 5 of them have had all-stars seasons. Remember when Chris Simon had oen great goal scoring year? It was weird. Kerry Huffman was the only one sorta not worth a damn.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Oh, I don't know how this could be a thread without the one and only Mike Milbury. I'll add a lot of his blunders as time goes on, but here's a tasty little treat for you hockey aficiandoes:

 

New York Islanders traded Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan McCabe and 3rd round selection (Jarkko Ruutu) in 1998 to the Vancouver Canucks for Trevor Linden.

 

Linden hasn't been worth a damn since he left the Canucks the first time...and even then he was a tad overated.