Thread Pruning

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Are you sure you didn't have the settings so the pics didn't upload to the server's temp cache and then run through there? If images are hosted elswhere they really shouldn't do anything with the bandwidth because its not like people can leech those images from your server and grab your bandwidth.

 

You've lost me now, I'll ask the techie admins

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

the real irony is that the search feature is normally used to find old posts and threads...

[Dr. Tom 0]

This is beyond stupid, and I hope the mods have enough sense to reconsider.

We're looking at the best option. That might be pruning threads. It might be creating an archive folder for old topics. Trying to make the board work faster for everyone is hardly stupid, though. It's good to see that efforts to improve things are received so positively...

 

And if all this is being done to accomodate mods with 56k (which is what I'm leaning towards), fuck that.

No, it's being done to try and make the board faster. There's another forum I admin at that has several times the number of members we have here. Everything is much faster there, from just using the board to moderation functions like moving and deleting threads. I don't know what mods connect at what speeds, and I really don't care: those who may still have 56k long ago learned how to make the board as fast as they can get their connection to support.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

I demand you lock Uncle Rant in the Admin Control Panel until he finds out how to fit all those plugs into one hole(which is basically what it comes down to) since things were still lagging during Raw.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

we all appreciate you wanting to make the board run faster Tom but we don't want to sacrifice our history for it.

[MrRant 0]

I demand you lock Uncle Rant in the Admin Control Panel until he finds out how to fit all those plugs into one hole(which is basically what it comes down to) since things were still lagging during Raw.

Things didn't lag at all for me during RAW. A little bit here and there but nothing closed to being locked out like before.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

As I previously said, if Dames has 40gigs of storage space then nothing needs to be sacraficed. That doesn't mean certain kinds of clutter shouldn't be disposed of though along with possibly archiving some of the old Raw, Smackdown, and PPV threads on another part of thesmartmarks.com .

 

Actually, I have an excellent idea but I don't know if it can be done with the Invision Software. Uncle Rant, sometime today yourself and I are going to have to speak. Hopefully you're available this afternoon.

 

Edit: After sitting back and thinking about it more I realised it wouldn't work.

Edited May 18, 2004 by FrigidSoul

[Adam 0]

You delete the SAGA~!, and you delete my soul in the process. Would someone make that thread a damn classic already?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

The board didn't lag for me during Raw at all and it always has before.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Maybe the lag I had was because I was helping Kahran out with the Admin CP. I was searching the board for information on a few IPs so that could have done it.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

The board didn't lag for me during Raw at all and it always has before.

I guess it's because only about 30 members were viewing the thread at the most until the last half hour.

[MrRant 0]

But there were around 200 people on the board at that time.

 

Think just a little bit before you post.

[IllustriousOne 0]

Couple things...

 

First, bandwidth. Increasing the bandwidth that this site has, would be beyond irrelevant. It's never, to my knowledge, experienced any number of bandwidth problems. For those who are apparently ignorant to what that means, is that when someone views the site, the server sends the user information. That's what you see here

 

Second, the actual problem. The server, while having gobs and gobs of of storage space, doesn't have substantial enough memory to handle the amount of connections that this board makes. That's reflected through the fact that the SQL DB goes down, as a result. There are a few alternatives to this, and that would be to streamline the SQL DB (Which pruning would help with), lock down the amount of connections that can be made (eliminating the guests), or getting more/better memory for the server.

 

Server load on this piece is high constantly, due to the amount of info that is being transferred between user/server. You can KIND of think of it like a p2p program in the sense that when you are uploading, you will notice (with conventional cable/dsl) that your internet connection as a whole, unless you've capped it or whatever, is slower than it normally is. The neat thing about Invision, is that it's got a built in function to prevent the server itself from crashing due to too much information being transferred at one time. You see this whenever you see the blank page with black text.

 

It was a bad omen earlier when Tom informed me about the changes that were made, and the first thing I saw was an error though. Since then, everything's been a bit smoother, though unlike Rant, I still noticed some sluggishness during peak hours.

 

Tom, what kind of software does the other board you admin use? That may be something to consider. Invision is by and large, open source. So, it's still buggy and it still has some issues, and I wonder if how it handles data from the SQL database is one of those issues. I've noticed with vBulletin that the same problems are not evident, so I think that might be something that's worth looking into.

 

Anyway, this lecture is over.

 

I'll be continuing my search for the Invision mod that lets me sort threads.

 

-Josh

[MrRant 0]

Well the sluggishness has gone down is all I'm saying. Nothing will help more than RAM unless we force people to register by not letting Guests view the board with is a catch 22 situation.

 

vBulletin I've noticed can be worse IMO plus I don't know if Dames can afford the license. phpBB may be an option.

[IllustriousOne 0]

phpBB is a LOT more raw than Invision is, so that's out of the question. Plus, it's REALLY hard to convert databases. I did it on a smaller board, and lost somewhere in there area of 10,000 posts.

 

I think that the license is something like $200 bucks a year, so it's not TOO bad, when you consider what he's paying monthly for the site.

 

-Josh

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Well the sluggishness has gone down is all I'm saying. Nothing will help more than RAM unless we force people to register by not letting Guests view the board with is a catch 22 situation.

Not if there's a disclaimer on the Main Site saying "Only registered users can view the forum". I mean really, it isn't that hard to make an account here.

Unless you're just saying we'll get alot of people who register and then don't give any imput. There's a good chance of that but when people make an account they often debate points they don't agree with. Unless their name is Fooster of course.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Maybe you could put that disclaimer there, only lie about it, then people wouldn't try looking at the board unless they had intentions of registering, thus solving part of our problem with five seconds of work.

[Guest Dazed]

Forcing people to register to view is death. It's a tremendous hassle to sign up if you aren't sure about the boards, and particularly if you have to give an e-mail address (potentially setting yourself up for spam.)

 

I'm not saying nobody will do it, but there'll be a whole lot less lurkers.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

But there were around 200 people on the board at that time.

 

Think just a little bit before you post.

I wouldn't notice, since usually if I'm signed on on Monday night5s, I just leave the page on the RAW thread, and only notice how many people are viewing that. Usually though, it's a lot more than it was this week.

[chaosrage 0]

Forcing people to register to view is death. It's a tremendous hassle to sign up if you aren't sure about the boards, and particularly if you have to give an e-mail address (potentially setting yourself up for spam.)

 

I'm not saying nobody will do it, but there'll be a whole lot less lurkers.

Yep, why would they sign up if they can't see what the board is like? If it was me, I'd just go check somewhere else.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I think that TSM has to be open to the public or else rumors of strange Benoit-oriented rituals and the such will begin to circulate, we'll be ostracized from the rest of the IWC, they'll try and connect us to Freemasonry, and before you know it, Dames was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Forcing people to register to view is death.  It's a tremendous hassle to sign up if you aren't sure about the boards, and particularly if you have to give an e-mail address (potentially setting yourself up for spam.)

 

I'm not saying nobody will do it, but there'll be a whole lot less lurkers.

Yep, why would they sign up if they can't see what the board is like? If it was me, I'd just go check somewhere else.

So.

 

When do we make the board viewable only for members?

[The Czech Republic 0]

So.

 

When do we make the board viewable only for members?

And when do we start charging registration fees?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

.99 plz

[PLAGIARISM! 0]

I've never got this sentimental infatuation with threads. They come and go, and I can't think of one I'd miss were it to be deleted. Ever.

[MrRant 0]

I'd be hurt if the CD Burning thread was deleted.

[Perfxion 0]

An Idea just popped into my head. How about getting a chat room, on this server or off of it(which would be better) then force all chat threads(RAW/SD/PPVs/TNAs/Heat/ect.) on to those rooms and not onto the board, thus saving on connections, thus making the place run faster durring peak times. Like if this was done durring WMXX, the board wouldn't have died when 500 people popped on to say YEA BENOIT IS GOD~!

 

Programs start from Free to about 300 bucks, so atleast wouldn't hurt to look.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

How about you just delete all the threads started by PBP? That would make it easier instead of just locking it all the time.

 

I'm also one with deleting stuff from HD, its all fluff anyway.

 

TSM History with WWE > Bullshit threads in HD

[Guest JacK]

Is this thing actually going to happen? And will it cease the seemingly endless flow of fatal error's which deign to appear whenever I try and access more than one thread? Of the day's annoyances, that.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Fuck Holden. Go Ford.