Mik 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Astros loaded the bases in the top of the 8th, but (GASP!) Mr. Reliable Armando Benitez came in with 2 outs and K'd Lance Berkman looking. His ERA is now 0.38 barring the 9th of this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 I just don't understand it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Benitez was always good. Its just the blown saves always got splashed at the top of the highlight shows. No one remembers a flawless inning, but they always remember the screwups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Benitez was always good. Its just the blown saves always got splashed at the top of the highlight shows. No one remembers a flawless inning, but they always remember the screwups. IIRC, when the Yankees got him last year (Yeah, that was worth it) he was tied for the league lead in blown saves. I don't think you can really blow that out of proportion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 IIRC, when the Yankees got him last year (Yeah, that was worth it) he was tied for the league lead in blown saves. I don't think you can really blow that out of proportion. Sure you can. The save is an utterly meaningless statistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 FOR A CLOSER? Has Colon always been this fat? I don't remember him being that big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 FOR A CLOSER? Especially for a closer. Not all saves are created equal, and the save adversely effects in game strategy. I think the Dodgers are pissed scared to bring Eric Gagne in before the ninth for fear that he'll lose that streak. All pitchers give up runs at some point. A team like the Mets are more likely to only spot their closer one run. Hence more blown saves. Has Colon always been this fat? I don't remember him being that big. Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Has Colon always been this fat? I don't remember him being that big. Yes. Has it been that long since I've seen him? He was always fat, but I think he's bigger than Wells now. Hes Ponson-y. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 He might be fattER, but I don't recall him ever being thinner. His weight has been cited as an issue for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 A quick check says that he is indeed bigger than Wells, but that Wells weighs the same as Ponson. Bullshit. And he's absolutely fatter. It caught me off guard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Listed weights are dubvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 This disturbs me greatly. Bartolo Colon Bartolo Colon Bats Right, Throws Right Height 6' 0", Weight 185 lb. At least the Angels have a more reasonable number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Precisely. My favorite Bill James quote..... "Cecil Fielder claims a listed weight of 261 lbs., leaving unanswered the question of what might happen if he put his other foot on the scale." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Honestly, I think 240 is low, but 185 is absurd. I weigh 190, and if THAT'S 185, my mirrors need cleaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Colon's always been a big boy, but he's definitely put on some lbs. in recent years. Even Sportscenter noted it by showing three pictures of Colon in chronological order from the beginning of his career to now. There was quite the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 A tribute to fat pitchers. Rick Reuschel Sid Fernandez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Rodrigo cruises through 4 innings and then hits the WALL in the 5th walking in a run and 1 out with the bases loaded. Oh and I nominate Sidney Ponson for the fat pitchers thing. When he stinks people call him Fat-son. His listed weight is 266. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Well, the Pig Roast was halted. Colon had to go tend to his ladies.... Sara Lee... Little Debbie... Aunt Jemima... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Christ. Angels were checking Anderson for ALS and cancer. Who'd ever think you'd say "He has arthritis, thank God" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 is BACK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 What an absolute waste of a game tonight. Zambrano throws 130 pitches in FIVE innings, walking nine and K-ing 8, but the Sox had plenty of scoring chances and blew a lot of them (11 LOB). Lowe had another bad start, and his stock is tumbling fast. Just not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 What an absolute waste of a game tonight. Zambrano throws 130 pitches in FIVE innings, walking nine and K-ing 8, but the Sox had plenty of scoring chances and blew a lot of them (11 LOB). Lowe had another bad start, and his stock is tumbling fast. Just not good. Don't worry. In two days, the Yanks will play a shitty game and give the lead back to the Sox, so they can suck ass two days later and give it back to the Yankees, rinse repeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 (edited) In further yankee news, there's talks of trading Graman and Rifkin for Sean Casey. Don't know why the Reds would do such a thing, but who cares. Also, Robinson Cano may come up from Trenton to play second by the end of the year if we can't find anyone. He's got nice numbers, but that is AA. Edited May 21, 2004 by Anglesault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 I have heard nothing about that here in Cincy, I call bullshit. If the reds were going to trade Casey, the Yankees would not be where he would go. The Yankees have the worst farm system in baseball. I would not trade Casey for the Yankees 20 best prospects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 21, 2004 I'm getting his info (secondhand) from a rumor passed on by Cincy talk radio. Whole thing sounds strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 News on the Expos ESPN.COM While I want the issued resolved. I hope it's somewhere other than Washington, D.C. They've had two franchises move already, why do they get another team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 What in god's name is wrong with Oswalt? These injuries suck for the Twins. Stewart, Dougie Alphabet, and Rivas all have day to day injuries so they aren't on the DL, but they aren't available stretching the bench rail thin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 This is the biggest series of the year for the reds so far. Four games against Houston, winning 2 or 3 games would be very nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 What in god's name is wrong with Oswalt? He's a little off, but I don't think it's much to worry about. If not for one ball taking a bad bounce off his glove to give Luis Castillo an infield hit/RBI or making one bad pitch to Lenny Harris, he would have been fine yesterday. Four games against Houston, winning 2 or 3 games would be very nice. Yes, 3 of 4 from the Astros would be great. Better yet, just sweep it. GO REDS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2004 Egads, Mitre is embarrassingly bad sometimes. A lot of that is just inexperience, but it still hurts. No way the Cards should've had four runs in that inning. One or two maybe, but they were helped greatly by Mitre not holding the runner at second, letting them steal third and two wild pitches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
