Being Fat in America

[Firestarter 0]

i shouldn't have to be bullied into losing weight by the rest of society because their standards require me to change just to please them

Free clue #2: society doesn't want you to please it. Society doesn't actually give a flying fuck about you, because society doesn't know you exist. Whether you think you're asking a lot or a little doesn't matter, because no one's giving you anything. Basic standards of beauty aren't negotiable and it doesn't matter whether you accept them or not. You're going to be judged by them anyway.

 

Fat = ugly. Get used to it.

 

PS. Frankly, you seem rather confused. Your posts are self-contradictory, often within the same paragraph. On the one hand you just want "respect;" on the other you're upset because you don't have any luck with women. And you don't think you should have to lose weight in order to have luck with women, yet you're losing weight anyway - despite the fact that losing weight contradicts your own "wishes," and entails conforming to what you believe everyone else's "wishes" are for you... well, whatever. Lose the weight or don't; I couldn't care less. I'll take back the bit in my last post where I called you a lazy slob, though. Your mental flexibility indicates you're a grade A hypocrite at the top of his form, driven by ego and insecurity to impressive heights of rationalisation. Congratulations.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Another point (to netslob), you can't really get annoyed if people's definition of attractiveness doesn't include how you look. If people find fatness a turn off, they do. They're not being ignorant or anything. Personal taste is hard to master

 

hey, i know everyone has different tastes, what i'm saying is even if i don't fit you criteria of what you find attractive, that doesn't mean you have the right to disrespect me because of it. i don't go up to people i don't find attractive and point out all their flaws, all i want is the same courtesy.

Of course they don't, because you have no right as a chunky motherfucker to be pointing out the defects of others, hell noone really does. But you much less especially.

 

Though if you want to fuck their bodies with it, it kind of makes your body their "FUCKING BUSINESS." The funniest part of all this childish nonsense is that you're snivelling about having no luck with women, yet at the same time you're claiming their standards are worthless. Here's a free clue: respect is a two-way street. 

i'm not "sniveling" about not having luck with women...that's not what this was about at all.

 

Of course you're snivelling about not having luck with women, it was THE FIRST FUCKING LINE IN YOUR POST. May I quote...

 

Me: "I've never had much luck with women..."

 

And then immediately get told why and overreact to simple criticism. Losing weight is not that fucking hard, just control your calorie intake and get out and be active. It certainly not on par with quitting smoking, drugs, alcohol or anything of that nature, it's merely controlling what goes into your fucking mouth.

 

so the only way for me to get respect is to conform with everyone else's wishes and completely ignore my own?  that sounds like a FAN-tabulous way to go through life.

 

It depends on what the hell you're looking for when asking for "respect". Are you looking to be attractive? Are you looking for people to not critique you when you ask for their opinion? You want people to just tell you everything is fine when everything is not? Because I'm sure random people don't just run up to you and go "HEY FATTIE FAT FATTY, LOSE SOME WEIGHT YA FAT FUCK". And even then, how could you even take that seriously? Please, grow some hair on your nuts already.

 

i like to consider myself an individual, and as an individual,  i have the right to make my own choices.

 

You are no individual, you are part of the blubbering masses. Over half the country is considered at the minimum overweight, individuality has nothing to do with being overweight.

 

i freely admit that being fat is my own fault, and the only one who can change that is me, but i shouldn't have to be bullied into losing weight by the rest of society because their standards require me to change just to please them.  i don't think i'm asking alot, really.  if you do, that's your right.  you seem dead set in your ways, nothing i can do to change that

 

So then you know it's your fault, and you are willing to change that, yet you don't want to change because society is bullying you into doing so? Why do you care so much then say you don't care because you're an "individual"? Make up your fucking mind already.

 

 

Major props to AoO and Marney in this thread by the way.

[Nighthawk 0]

You can find women if you're fat, but it's going to be a fetish. So they'll only want you for your fat. But still, you'd probably have better luck with women being fat than thin. At least if you're fat, that's a verifiable selling point. You can say "You want fat? Well, I got it." If you were thin, you probably still wouldn't be particularly attractive. Most people aren't. But on top of it, you'd have no hook. So, in conclusion, stay fat to get chicks.

[Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0]

Just do what I did when I got sick of my buddha belly. Get a piece of shit bike that nobody would dream of stealing and go ride for an hour each day. I started at like 255 like a month ago, and I'm at about 245 now. And I still eat the most heinously unhealthy shit imaginable. It's pretty fucking simple.

 

In short, go outside once in a while and exert yourself.

 

As far as your personality and inferiority complex...I got nothing for ya.

[Nevermortal 0]

Get fat, grow your hair long, and buy a Slayer shirt in size L. It's the motherfucking American way, and it will soon be my way.

[Guest Smues]

I think it was this picture in the New York Post today ( I can't stand the Post, but it was free so what the hell) that my girlfriend saw and started complaining that his chest is bigger than hers.

[Guest Ram]

Me: "I've never had much luck with women..."

 

Some Girl: "Well, maybe if you lost weight..."

She was giving you advice. You admit you're fat, so why get all offended by it? It's the obvious response to what you said. Would you rather people just think it or actually say it?

[Guest netslob]

Free clue #2: society doesn't want you to please it. Society doesn't actually give a flying fuck about you, because society doesn't know you exist.

 

already knew that. thanks for pointing it out, tho.

 

Whether you think you're asking a lot or a little doesn't matter, because no one's giving you anything. Basic standards of beauty aren't negotiable and it doesn't matter whether you accept them or not. You're going to be judged by them anyway.

 

Fat = ugly. Get used to it.

 

so there's one, and ONLY ONE, standard of beauty that EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING ON EARTH have all agreed to? alright, i'll keep that in mind.

 

PS. Frankly, you seem rather confused. Your posts are self-contradictory, often within the same paragraph. On the one hand you just want "respect;" on the other you're upset because you don't have any luck with women.

 

i never said i was "upset" about having no luck with women. i have had SOME luck with women (not alot, but some). i said i never had "much" luck with women. and that was the only time i mentioned that particular fact in the entire post. i fail to see how you can misconstrue the entire post by that one line. i have NO problem with women as a species AT ALL. point out ONE other line where i said i was upset for not being able to connect with women. and the line "it's not to impress some cunt who can't look at me unless i'm a size 8." is not the one. that was to point out that any woman who can't look at me because i'm fat isn't worth my time, and women did not figure into my decision, anyway. and that's ALL it meant.

 

And you don't think you should have to lose weight in order to have luck with women, yet you're losing weight anyway - despite the fact that losing weight contradicts your own "wishes," and entails conforming to what you believe everyone else's "wishes" are for you... well, whatever.

 

i never said that. i'm losing weight now because i want to...women have next to nothing to do with that. i thought i made that clear, but i guess not.

 

Lose the weight or don't; I couldn't care less.

 

evidently. but you sure seemed to care enough to belittle me.

 

I'll take back the bit in my last post where I called you a lazy slob, though.

 

well, that's awfully nice of you.

 

Your mental flexibility indicates you're a grade A hypocrite at the top of his form, driven by ego and insecurity to impressive heights of rationalisation.

 

oops, spoke too soon. insecurity, yes. ego-driven, no. i've been accused of alot, but ego-driven hase never been one of them.

 

Of course they don't, because you have no right as a chunky motherfucker to be pointing out the defects of others, hell noone really does. But you much less especially.

 

ok, so i can never criticize ANYONE, about ANYTHING, EVER, because of my weight. ok, gotcha.

 

Of course you're snivelling about not having luck with women, it was THE FIRST FUCKING LINE IN YOUR POST.

 

see above.

 

And then immediately get told why and overreact to simple criticism.

 

how did i overreact? i didn't swear, i didn't type in all caps (the visual equivilant of raising my voice), and i didn't insult anyone. i simply stated my case. care to run it by me how i overreated?

 

Losing weight is not that fucking hard, just control your calorie intake and get out and be active. It certainly not on par with quitting smoking, drugs, alcohol or anything of that nature, it's merely controlling what goes into your fucking mouth.

 

never said it was hard at all. please stop putting words in my mouth (or in my post, as it were).

 

It depends on what the hell you're looking for when asking for "respect". Are you looking to be attractive?

 

meh, not really.

 

Are you looking for people to not critique you when you ask for their opinion?

 

i don't ask, but get told anyway. if i ask, i'd expect an honest answer...IF i ask.

 

You want people to just tell you everything is fine when everything is not?

 

no.

 

Because I'm sure random people don't just run up to you and go "HEY FATTIE FAT FATTY, LOSE SOME WEIGHT YA FAT FUCK".

 

in fact, yes. just not in those words. and not just me.

 

And even then, how could you even take that seriously?

 

when i was younger, it hurt. nowadays, not so much.

 

Please, grow some hair on your nuts already.

 

got plenty as is, thanks.

 

You are no individual, you are part of the blubbering masses. Over half the country is considered at the minimum overweight, individuality has nothing to do with being overweight.

 

never said it did.

 

So then you know it's your fault, and you are willing to change that, yet you don't want to change because society is bullying you into doing so? Why do you care so much then say you don't care because you're an "individual"? Make up your fucking mind already.

 

not what i said. i never said i didn't want to change. i said i shouldn't feel pressured if it WASN'T what i wanted. i WANT to change...for my own set of reasons. not because it should be required of me.

 

and i never said i didn't care. if i didn't care, i wouldn't have posted such a long and decidedly hostile post, now would i? again, please don't put words in my mouth (or post).

 

btw, you two seem awfully upset with me...care to explain why? did i mention you two by name in that original post? did i say "Cancer Marnie and Vitamin X are the two biggest 'fat-bashers' on earth and here's why" ? no, but you both seem to feel the need to attack me personally. i never attacked either of YOU personally, did i? and i know what your gonna say "that post was directed at EVERYONE who isn't fat, and that includes us". that post was directed at the people who DO put fat people down...and if you two just so happen to fall in that category, so be it. and no, of course not every single person on earth is prejudiced against fat people, but the majority is. tell me i'm wrong. go ahead.

 

If you were thin, you probably still wouldn't be particularly attractive.

 

lol, don't gotta tell me.

[Guest netslob]

Me: "I've never had much luck with women..."

 

Some Girl: "Well, maybe if you lost weight..."

She was giving you advice. You admit you're fat, so why get all offended by it? It's the obvious response to what you said. Would you rather people just think it or actually say it?

i wasn't offended at all. i just told her that i shouldn't really HAVE to. and i shouldn't. but alot of people seem to think otherwise.

[The Czech Republic 0]

If you're so worried about being thought of as just some fat guy that sits at his computer, then why the hell is your username "netslob"???

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Also as someone who's over-weight, It's just a matter of will power. That's all.

 

I'm 6'2", 240 lbs, but I can easily credit most of it because of my thick frame. Outside of a bit of a gut, I am pretty much in good condition. I jog every other day, lift weights at the local "Y, and walk a lot (considering in Florida it's 85 degrees, that's not too bad).

 

Plus the fact I don't smoke (cigarettes or drugs) nor drink (maybe 1 beer every month or so) I'm healthier in that case.

 

Even now I'm dieting, and have been doing pretty well. In the last three weeks I dropped a few pounds (not a lot, because for that to happen it would take either lipo or anerexia) and am determined to drop to maybe 210-215.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Of course they don't, because you have no right as a chunky motherfucker to be pointing out the defects of others, hell noone really does. But you much less especially.

 

ok, so i can never criticize ANYONE, about ANYTHING, EVER, because of my weight. ok, gotcha.

I don't believe I mentioned ANYONE ANYTHING EVER. But you certainly can't expect others to be perfect when you yourself are far from it. Even then...

 

Being overweight can be socially villifiable since it's something that one can alter about themselves greatly. Like has been stated countless times in this thread, fat people don't just blow up that way, they have to work to get there.

 

Of course you're snivelling about not having luck with women, it was THE FIRST FUCKING LINE IN YOUR POST.

 

see above.

 

When presenting a case, the first line is the attention getter, or even the trigger that thus led to the reason for your diatribe. Since it had to do with not having luck with women due to your weight issue, that was what was brought forth first and foremost. On top of it, I assume you're also a heterosexual (or possibly bi who knows) male, so naturally you're going to care about what women think of you regardless...

 

And then immediately get told why and overreact to simple criticism.

 

how did i overreact? i didn't swear, i didn't type in all caps (the visual equivilant of raising my voice), and i didn't insult anyone. i simply stated my case. care to run it by me how i overreated?

 

You overreacted by starting this thread on feeling disrespected when all it was was criticism.

 

Losing weight is not that fucking hard, just control your calorie intake and get out and be active. It certainly not on par with quitting smoking, drugs, alcohol or anything of that nature, it's merely controlling what goes into your fucking mouth.

 

never said it was hard at all. please stop putting words in my mouth (or in my post, as it were).

 

Nor did I say you didn't either. You would be advised to do likewise with putting words in my mouth/post. I was stating what I again did earlier in this reply about fat being something that can be fixed rather easily on a person.

 

It depends on what the hell you're looking for when asking for "respect". Are you looking to be attractive?

 

meh, not really.

 

Liar.

 

Are you looking for people to not critique you when you ask for their opinion?

 

i don't ask, but get told anyway. if i ask, i'd expect an honest answer...IF i ask.

 

 

Because I'm sure random people don't just run up to you and go "HEY FATTIE FAT FATTY, LOSE SOME WEIGHT YA FAT FUCK".

 

in fact, yes. just not in those words. and not just me.

And even then, how could you even take that seriously?

 

when i was younger, it hurt. nowadays, not so much.

 

Then why are you so defensive/angry/upset about it then?

So then you know it's your fault, and you are willing to change that, yet you don't want to change because society is bullying you into doing so? Why do you care so much then say you don't care because you're an "individual"? Make up your fucking mind already.

 

not what i said. i never said i didn't want to change. i said i shouldn't feel pressured if it WASN'T what i wanted. i WANT to change...for my own set of reasons. not because it should be required of me.

 

But you wouldn't change were it not for the bullying of others. And it's not required of you.

 

and i never said i didn't care.  if i didn't care, i wouldn't have posted such a long and decidedly hostile post, now would i?  again, please don't put words in my mouth (or post).

 

You act as if you revel in your obesity/fatness/chunkyness and society has no right to ridicule you for what you did to yourself. That would make it seem to me as if you don't care.

 

btw, you two seem awfully upset with me...care to explain why?  did i mention you two by name in that original post?  did i say "Cancer Marnie and Vitamin X are the two biggest 'fat-bashers' on earth and here's why" ?  no, but you both seem to feel the need to attack me personally. i never attacked either of YOU personally, did i?  and i know what your gonna say "that post was directed at EVERYONE who isn't fat, and that includes us".  that post was directed at the people who DO put fat people down...and if you two just so happen to fall in that category, so be it.  and no, of course not every single person on earth is prejudiced against fat people, but the majority is.  tell me i'm wrong.  go ahead.

 

1. I'm not upset with you.

2. You misspelt 'Marney'.

3. You are very sensitive and should get used to people coming off as harsh or abrasive when you start threads with long-winded rants, especially on these forums.

4. There is no number 4.

5. Tell me what's wrong about being prejudiced against fat people? Racial prejudice is something that can't be helped, age is also something that can't be helped, social status in terms of wealth in many cases can't be helped, nor can being born male or female. But again, you don't get overweight overnight.

 

Examine maybe why obesity is unattractive to the human eye: It may indicate laziness, it indicates a lack of self-control and consciousness of one's image, and is extremely unhealthy. Not to mention yet again, it is something that is easily combatted. And if it truly doesn't bother you, then why the point of this thread? If it does bother you, then do something about it. Ah, but you are. Okay, so what?

 

STOP COMPLAINING.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Referring back to my "netslob" post up there, maybe you should apply for a name change to "nets, lob" and get out and play some badminton and tennis. My friend plays both and she's in great shape as a result; I play some now and then and it helps pick up the slack that my metabolism doesn't. I recommend it to everyone.

[Nighthawk 0]

2. You misspelt 'Marney'.

There is a deeply entrenched, hidden irony in that. Try to find it.

[Guest netslob]

I don't believe I mentioned ANYONE ANYTHING EVER. But you certainly can't expect others to be perfect when you yourself are far from it. Even then...

 

Being overweight can be socially villifiable since it's something that one can alter about themselves greatly. Like has been stated countless times in this thread, fat people don't just blow up that way, they have to work to get there.

 

so it;'s ok to fuck with fat people because they can control it. i disagree, but whatever.

 

You overreacted by starting this thread on feeling disrespected when all it was was criticism.

 

i disagree.

 

When presenting a case, the first line is the attention getter, or even the trigger that thus led to the reason for your diatribe. Since it had to do with not having luck with women due to your weight issue, that was what was brought forth first and foremost. On top of it, I assume you're also a heterosexual (or possibly bi who knows) male, so naturally you're going to care about what women think of you regardless...

Liar.

 

believe what you want.

 

But you wouldn't change were it not for the bullying of others. And it's not required of you.

 

not tru and you may be right, respectively

 

You act as if you revel in your obesity/fatness/chunkyness and society has no right to ridicule you for what you did to yourself. That would make it seem to me as if you don't care.

 

i don't revel in it and they have no right to ridcule.

 

1. I'm not upset with you.

2. You misspelt 'Marney'.

3. You are very sensitive and should get used to people coming off as harsh or abrasive when you start threads with long-winded rants, especially on these forums.

4. There is no number 4.

5. Tell me what's wrong about being prejudiced against fat people? Racial prejudice is something that can't be helped, age is also something that can't be helped, social status in terms of wealth in many cases can't be helped, nor can being born male or female. But again, you don't get overweight overnight.

 

1. could've fooled me

2. details, details

3. apparantly.

4. then why right "4." ?

5. ALL prejudice is wrong, and it can be controlled...the trick is recognizing it, examining why you feel that way, and stop feeling that way.

[Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0]

"Sir, if you'd just quiet down..I'd be happy to treat you to a complimentary garbage bag full of popcorn.."

[MrRant 0]

My whole gathering from this post is that he doesn't want women to have to find him physically attractive and should just like him for his personality.

 

Those are called friends.

 

How can you be upset that some people don't want to be with someone overweight and want their partner to be attractive to them? If you want to be attractive to these people than yes you HAVE to change. Bottom line.

[Guest netslob]

Referring back to my "netslob" post up there, maybe you should apply for a name change to "nets, lob" and get out and play some badminton and tennis. My friend plays both and she's in great shape as a result; I play some now and then and it helps pick up the slack that my metabolism doesn't. I recommend it to everyone.

 

heh, i'll take it under advisement.

 

"Sir, if you'd just quiet down..I'd be happy to treat you to a complimentary garbage bag full of popcorn.."

 

"I'll have you know you can't buy me off with food!"

 

There is a deeply entrenched, hidden irony in that. Try to find it.

 

and that iiiis...

 

If you're so worried about being thought of as just some fat guy that sits at his computer, then why the hell is your username "netslob"???

 

go here...4th from the bottom.

[The Czech Republic 0]

2. You misspelt 'Marney'.

There is a deeply entrenched, hidden irony in that. Try to find it.

Don't bother. "Those" people form a sizable contingent and will defend it to the death.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Can one be fat in Canada?

 

Marney is being cruel in this thread.

[NoCalMike 0]

Well Marylin Monroe would be considered fat by today's standard, or if not "fat" perse, she would definately be the BUTT of jokes for her figure. And I think she was damn attractive.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Well Marylin Monroe would be considered fat by today's standard, or if not "fat" perse, she would definately be the BUTT of jokes for her figure. And I think she was damn attractive.

Really? are you sure?

 

Post pictures

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Can one be fat in Canada?

 

Marney is being cruel in this thread.

John Candy?

[Guest Brian]

I'm considered fat by standards, but I'm fine with where I'm athletically. I don't want to bear down enough to diet. I can bench four-hundred pounds, squat seven-hundred, run a half marathon, hit the splits, and ride from Seattle to Portland in a day. Fat is just generally relative; if your healthy and mobile, if your cholestrol and blood pressure levels are fine, what do you have to worry about? What someone else thinks of you? That's called shallow.

[Nighthawk 0]

2. You misspelt 'Marney'.

There is a deeply entrenched, hidden irony in that. Try to find it.

Fine, I'll just tell you. He spelled it like the Hitchcock movie, and Hitchcock was fat. Bam.

[MrRant 0]

Not enough spice.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

netslob, I agree with you about that girl. It is so fucking easy for her to say that, and when so, she can so easily fake sincerity.

 

I used to have a fair bit more weight on me, but I just started doing a bit more running, less shit food, and, well, it worked for me. But I'm not going to put an overweight person down. Ever. That is such a cheap fucking shot and has with it some of the most unimagineable insults to it of any insult genre.

 

I completely agree that weight shouldn't play a part in choosing sexual partners, but in this society, I'm afraid it does.

[MrRant 0]

WTF do you mean weight shouldn't play a part in choosing sexual partners you motherfucking moron? If you don't find 2 chins attractive then that is your right. I sure has hell am not going to fuck some 2 chinned sea lion. Doesn't mean that they aren't good people to have as a friend.... I'm just not putting my dick in them.

 

Get over yourselves.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

WTF do you mean weight shouldn't play a part in choosing sexual partners you motherfucking moron?  If you don't find 2 chins attractive then that is your right.  I sure has hell am not going to fuck some 2 chinned sea lion.  Doesn't mean that they aren't good people to have as a friend.... I'm just not putting my dick in them.

 

Get over yourselves.

I mean weight shouldn't play a part in the way humans perceive.

 

I mean, in their mind - but it does, and that's just the way it is.

 

But yes, I agree about choices - I will fully admit that if I hadn't got to know someone and had looks to choose from, I'd go for the gorgeous-looking girl rather than the overweight, less attractive girl.

 

In that situation, putting aside people with fetishes, who wouldn't?

[Kardo 0]

A lot of girls put time and effort into their looks.

 

Why should you be exempt from that?

 

I used to be 196 pounds and 5'11" and unable to get anyone.

 

Now I'm 150 and 5'11" still, but now it's mysteriously easy to get girls.