The Mandarin Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 It likely will end up being something from Canadian Stampede. I'd say Warrior/Hogan is up there too. Discuss.
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 Rock/Hogan from WM 18. I know I'm gonna get a lotta shit for putting a "markout"/crowd-heat match there, but IMO, its the "best" WWE match from Canada. Plus I feel like I've shown that match to non-fans or casual fans 15 times this summer, already.
The Mandarin Posted May 30, 2004 Author Report Posted May 30, 2004 Dude, I was actually there, and that was the biggest markout experience of my life. I cheered for Hogan to no end. Very good match (hey, Warrior/Hogan wasn't a workrate clinic), and made the main event seem quite dull.
Guest Choken One Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 Austin/Benoit. Smackdown in Edmonton. Canadian Stampede 10 way...you want to talk heat? this match equaled WMX8. Saskue Vs Taka. C.S Benoit/Trips/Shawn. Backlash 2004. Foley/Orton. Backlash 2004.
Guest Rrrsh Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 If you are going by markout rate, nothing comes close to Canadian Stampede. That still might be the loudest reaction I have ever heard.
Guest TigerDriver91 Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 The 10-man tag-team match at Canadian Stampede.
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 10 Man Tag and Rock/Hogan. IMO no argument comes close to those two.
Guest Ray Posted May 31, 2004 Report Posted May 31, 2004 I'd go with Austin vs Benoit from 5/31/01 Smackdown.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted May 31, 2004 Report Posted May 31, 2004 About Rock/Hogan, that match was surely no technical masterpiece, but shit, just the atmosphere surrounding it, the entrances, crowd, etc. made it awesome. And it lived up to the hype. Unlike a recent "big" match...
Guest Choken One Posted May 31, 2004 Report Posted May 31, 2004 The last "big" match had a similar effect although NEGATIVE. Equally memorable in it's own way
Lil' Bitch Posted May 31, 2004 Report Posted May 31, 2004 Hogan / Warrior - Still great to watch 14 years later. Honorable mentions: Team USA / The Hart Foundation The Rock / Hollywood Hogan Team Michaels / Camp Cornette Benoit-Lesnar / Team Angle
Kahran Ramsus Posted May 31, 2004 Report Posted May 31, 2004 Yeah, what has been said above. There are two matches that are way above the rest. The Calgary Stampede Ten Man and Austin/Benoit from Smackdown in June 2001.
Jericho2000Mark Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Austin/Benoit. Smackdown in Edmonton. Benoit/Trips/Shawn. Backlash 2004. Foley/Orton. Backlash 2004. Why does WWE spoil Edmonton so much? Anyway, having seen those matches live and televised...Benoit-Austin was the best by a landslide. They were doing stuff I haven't seen before, or since.
Guest Rrrsh Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 They were doing stuff I haven't seen before, or since. Lots of Germans? Because Austin hasnt done anything new since 96.
CanadianChick Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Lots of Germans? Because Austin hasnt done anything new since 96. Hehe, yeah. Damn, tough decision. Well, I can tell you the best card is Canadian Stampede, because I'm sure none of you knew that already.
Guest Ray Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Because Austin hasnt done anything new since 96. Except be one of the biggest draws and best wrestlers in WWE history....
Guest Choken One Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 and completely reinvent the North American Style.
Guest Rrrsh Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 I mean in the ring, smart guys. Austin style and moves and basic match has been the same from the time he got hurt (97) since the time he retired. The claim that the match contained something he has never seen before is laughable if he had ever watched a Austin match before. I dont wanna get into a Austin fight on how he good he was or what kind of a draw he was, that not the point.
Guest Choken One Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Watch ANY of the matches He had with Benoit and Angle... Those were totally different styles then the Kick Punch Stun brawls he constantly did post injury up...the last significant match that he used this fourmla was what many consider one of the greatest matches of all time (WMX7)...after that... He became a Suplex machine and brought back psychology from the grave (last time he even bothered to use it was 1996 Survivor Series)... What changed? Just a simple thing like changing idenity...he worked a smarter different style in those matches against Benoit and Angle.
Guest Rrrsh Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 His Angle matches were the EXACT same forumla in the way of layout, just less brawling and more of him getting his ass kicked cuz he was a heel. And Benoit suplexing the shit outta him isnt new and has nothing to do with Austin. I am not argueing the macthes are bad, they just wern't anything new.
Guest Ray Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 I mean in the ring, smart guys. Ray said: "Except be one of the biggest draws and best wrestlers in WWE history.... " I guess "wrestler" has nothing to do with "in the ring", eh? Austin style and moves and basic match has been the same from the time he got hurt (97) since the time he retired. That's so wrong it's not even funny. Watch Austin/Dude Love from OTE 98 then watch Austin/Benoit from Raw 11/00 and tell me they're the same match. The claim that the match contained something he has never seen before is laughable if he had ever watched a Austin match before. Give me an example of what would be "something never seen before." Are you referring to moveset? I guess Austin's great character portrayals and rich storytelling in his matches doesn't mean anything, since he didn't bust out cool new moves every time. He became a Suplex machine and brought back psychology from the grave (last time he even bothered to use it was 1996 Survivor Series)... So you're telling me Wrestlemania 13 had no pyschological depth? Wow... What changed? Just a simple thing like changing idenity...he worked a smarter different style in those matches against Benoit and Angle. As if he didn't work "smart" matches with anyone else? Watch him vs Undertaker from Summerslam 98 or vs Rock from Wrestlemania 17. There's a ton of deep psych in both. These things often go overlooked, since people are just looking at the moves he's doing and not why he's doing them. His Angle matches were the EXACT same forumla in the way of layout, just less brawling and more of him getting his ass kicked cuz he was a heel. Actually Austin controlled most of their matches. So it wasn't Austin getting his ass kicked. And their matches weren't the same. Watch their 1/8/01 Raw match and the Summerslam 01 match. The face/heel roles are completely reversed and the storytelling is different. I am not argueing the macthes are bad, they just wern't anything new. Except nobody in WWF except maybe Bret brought the levels of meaningful work and storytelling Austin brought to his top matches....
Australian Pride Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Bret Hart vs Ric Flair - 1992 World Title upset Rock vs Hogan - WM18 Austin vs Benoit - Smackdown The Canadian Stampede 10 man
Guest Choken One Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 He became a Suplex machine and brought back psychology from the grave (last time he even bothered to use it was 1996 Survivor Series)... So you're telling me Wrestlemania 13 had no pyschological depth? Wow... What changed? Just a simple thing like changing idenity...he worked a smarter different style in those matches against Benoit and Angle. As if he didn't work "smart" matches with anyone else? Watch him vs Undertaker from Summerslam 98 or vs Rock from Wrestlemania 17. There's a ton of deep psych in both. These things often go overlooked, since people are just looking at the moves he's doing and not why he's doing them. I meant to say POST injury and besides...SS96 was better pyschlogically anyways... as i said somewhere else...aside from the WMX7 match.
Guest Rrrsh Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 U made about 80 points and I dont want to argue with all of them. However, Ill take 1 at random. Without using vague phrases, tell me EXACTLY HOW his storytelling was revolutinary. Brawl in the ring, brawl out of the ring, brawl into the crowd, come back, throw each other into random objects at ringside, rest holds, more punches, sig moves, a bunch of finishers, Run in, finish. Excuse me, thats Benoit-Sullivans macth. He copied it and did it because ITS ALL HE COULD DO BECAUSE HE WAS A USELESS CRIPPLE.
The Mandarin Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Posted June 4, 2004 ITS ALL HE COULD DO BECAUSE HE WAS A USELESS CRIPPLE. A useless cripple who made the company millions and millions and millions of dollars. I'm assuming SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE thought his character and his wrestling was telling a story that was worth watching. I hope I get to be a useless cripple one day.
CanadianChick Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 ITS ALL HE COULD DO BECAUSE HE WAS A USELESS CRIPPLE. A useless cripple who made the company millions and millions and millions of dollars. I'm assuming SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE thought his character and his wrestling was telling a story that was worth watching. I hope I get to be a useless cripple one day. I'm pretty much Rrrsh meant a useless cripple in the ring, not in general.
tbondrage99 Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 Hogan vs. Rock, nothing even comes close in my opinion.
Guest Rrrsh Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 ITS ALL HE COULD DO BECAUSE HE WAS A USELESS CRIPPLE. A useless cripple who made the company millions and millions and millions of dollars. I'm assuming SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE thought his character and his wrestling was telling a story that was worth watching. I hope I get to be a useless cripple one day. The man's charicter is brilliant. But so was Hogan's, and no one will even confuse Hogan with Flair. So lets right here, right now, dismiss the notion that you need to be a good wrestler to make money.
Guest wildpegasus Posted June 7, 2004 Report Posted June 7, 2004 Austin/Benoit. Smackdown in Edmonton. Benoit/Trips/Shawn. Backlash 2004. Foley/Orton. Backlash 2004. Why does WWE spoil Edmonton so much? Anyway, having seen those matches live and televised...Benoit-Austin was the best by a landslide. They were doing stuff I haven't seen before, or since. I've heard about the clipping in Benoit vs Austin. Do you know what and how much they took off for TV?
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