Dangerous K89 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Now, we all know that Booker is supposed to be a good wrestler back from his WCW days. But, I was thinking a little bit earlier and...there is absolutley no WWE match from Booker T in the past 3 years that he has been there that stands out to me. Now, I'm a Booker T fan (noticably a smaller one in the past year) and wish that he would be put in the main event...but, has there been even ONE good Booker T match in WWE that didn't have more than 3 other people in the match? What about singles matches? Booker has also been noticeably MUCH worse ever since the whole WWE style went for a longer match/more in-ring story driven matches style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I haven't been much of a Booker T fan since his Harlem Heat days. Ever since his singles push in WCW (around 98 I'll guess) he really hasn't stood out. I guess showing how much of a better worker he is compared to stevie Ray is what made him enjoyable. His tag team run with Goldust was also very entertaining, but on his own, he really has nothing except for showing off by doing a spinarooni. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Now, we all know that Booker is supposed to be a good wrestler back from his WCW days. But, I was thinking a little bit earlier and...there is absolutley no WWE match from Booker T in the past 3 years that he has been there that stands out to me. Now, I'm a Booker T fan (noticably a smaller one in the past year) and wish that he would be put in the main event...but, has there been even ONE good Booker T match in WWE that didn't have more than 3 other people in the match? What about singles matches? Booker has also been noticeably MUCH worse ever since the whole WWE style went for a longer match/more in-ring story driven matches style. vs. Steve Austin - Smackdown 1/24/02. The most forgotten WWE match of 2002. Fun as hell brawl with a super-hot crowd, good flow, and a clean finish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Booker T and Kurt Angle had some great matches in 2001. And Ray is right on the money with Booker v. Austin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 So Booker T had some pretty good matches with Benoit, Austin and Angle, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Bookers lack of good matches in the last 2 years can be judged by his opponents. In 2002, he was mainly in tag matches vs. three Minute Warning, the Un-Americans, and occasionally X-Pac & Big Show. After the tag stint, he moved onto a feud with HHH that the wrestling world wants to forget. After that, he...(scratches head) I think he feuded with Christian for the IC Title. After he came back from his back injury, he really didn't do much, and feuded with Mark Henry around Armageddon. After that he had a VERY brief "feud" with Kane, and then teamed with RVD against the crappy tag teams of today. Moved to Smackdown, feuded with DEADMAN UNDERTAKER, ando is now feuding with John Cena it appears. Definitely not the best list of wrestlers to have stand-out matches with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous K89 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Christian is a very capable wrestler, though. And I know Booker had to have some matches with Jericho at LEAST during the whole Austin-Bischoff thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I was just running down his feuds. I'm more than sure he's had singles matches with almost everybody on the roster in the last couple of years, but 90% of his matches have been against average wrestlers. Christian isn't too bad of a wrestler, but I wouldn't say many of his matches standout from others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 From Armageddon 2002, the Booker/Goldust-Jericho/Christian portion of the 4-Way Tag Title match is quite good too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Booker T may have Lance Storm syndrome, but I could give him and the people he runs with coma syndrome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Booker's had a few matches with Jericho. Most of them were short and forgettable but during the Invasion they had a really good match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he face rock for the big gold belt at some point, and wasn't the match(es?) near or at ***? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I was just running down his feuds. I'm more than sure he's had singles matches with almost everybody on the roster in the last couple of years, but 90% of his matches have been against average wrestlers. Christian isn't too bad of a wrestler, but I wouldn't say many of his matches standout from others. Christian is not a good singles wrestler though. If you look at his entire body of work he's only gotten above solid in tag matches. His moveset doesn't seem to carry the heel work in a singles match either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Booker, simply, isn't that good. He looked far better than he was because WCW's ME roster was populated by rather terrible workers and, lord, he couldn't be a worse World Champ than most of the guys who preceeded him. Everybody knew the WWF had a MUCH more talented and MUCH deeper roster than WCW. What that ended up meaning was that the WWF had much better guys than the WCW guys to do the work. Booker --- and Lance --- just weren't as good as a LARGE number of workers the WWF already had. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I think the main thing to realize here is that Booker has become alot what RVD is, unmotivated. And that means your repetative and boring. I hate RVD with a passion, but at leats he tried in 2001 and ECW. He wasn't any good, but I respected him for trying. Booker T has never been a great wrestler, but he no longer is a good wrestler. Before, he could have a really good-to-great match with a great worker (Jericho, Benoit etc...). He had a match with Eddy this year that was fukin aweful. Its sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I always wondered, if RVD & Booker are unmotivated and don't feel like giving it all they can, why not just fucking quit? Vince doesn't reward crybabies...(waits for a stupid HBK joke) and Booker T is nearing the end of his career. RVD, if he cares, can have VERY entertaining matches. But for the last year and a half, he's been on cruise control it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted June 30, 2004 They like Money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I think if anything, Booker T has Scott Steiner syndrome in that he's boring, can't wrestle very well, and can't talk very well, but still looked good compared to WCW. The best work he's done in the WWE was when he was tagging with Goldust. The idea that he should get the World Title is usually ludicrous, although I guess he would still be a better champion than fucking Bradshaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scroby 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I would say that Eddie vs Booker was a good match till the ending with Bradshaw happen. It was decent enough, a feud between the two when Booker first got there would have made more sense than the Bradshaw/Eddie feud we have right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I don't think Booker is in Lance 03/04 territory YET, but it's kind of hard to dismiss how unmotivated he looks compared to Booker circa 00/01 or even as recently as the Black Gold stuff.... Incidently, I DL'd the 2001 Kane/Jericho v. Storm/Awesome match where ECW re-debuted on RAW a couple days ago, and I was kind of caught off guard by how great Storm looked out there, wrestling with fire, crispness and energy, and in his traditional split color tights rather than the bikini they stuck him in. Kind of sad to see how entertaining he was back then and how the WWE anti-wrestling machine just beat him down to relative mediocrity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I am one of the biggest Booker T in WWE haters in the world. But the fact this thread was started by a message that says "Booker T was supposed to be this great WCW wrestler" etc. shows stupidity. Supposed to? Did you watch WCW? NO!? Then WATCH some tapes. Although Booker T in WWE has sucked, yes. He has however, despite your claim, had a great WWE match, at WWE Armageddon 2002. That's one of a few good/great matches he has had. Still, don't put Booker over as a "guy who was supposed to be great", using the words "supposed to" in future arguments. That's contradicting yourself. He can't be "supposedly" good if there is no documentation for his work. Since you started the topic, you're responsible for said documentation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he face rock for the big gold belt at some point, and wasn't the match(es?) near or at ***? Summerslam 2001. It was...ok-ish. But it had a really dumb ending, with Rock basically doing a direct no-sell of Booker's finisher and winning with his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he face rock for the big gold belt at some point, and wasn't the match(es?) near or at ***? Summerslam 2001. It was...ok-ish. But it had a really dumb ending, with Rock basically doing a direct no-sell of Booker's finisher and winning with his own. Was that the handicapped match with Shane? That was the biggest problem with Booker's initial push (and the invasion as a whole), they were afraid to let guys like Booker and DDP appear like they were in any way equal to the WWE superstars, so they had all kinds of contrived shit (most of it involving Shane) to allow the heels to get heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he face rock for the big gold belt at some point, and wasn't the match(es?) near or at ***? Summerslam 2001. It was...ok-ish. But it had a really dumb ending, with Rock basically doing a direct no-sell of Booker's finisher and winning with his own. Was that the handicapped match with Shane? No, that was at Unforgiven 2001. Summerslam was a straight singles match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Book is a good tag team wrestler and a showman on the mike, but as a singles wrestler he is below average, unless he is being carried by a Benoit,Eddy or Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Booker's had a few matches with Jericho. Most of them were short and forgettable but during the Invasion they had a really good match. Jericho defended the WCW title against Booker on Smackdown on the October 25, 2001 episode. Most of Booker's good matches in the WWE were during the Invasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he face rock for the big gold belt at some point, and wasn't the match(es?) near or at ***? Summerslam 2001. It was...ok-ish. But it had a really dumb ending, with Rock basically doing a direct no-sell of Booker's finisher and winning with his own. Was that the handicapped match with Shane? The handi-cap match was at Unforgiven the next month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Booker's match with Triple H at Wrestlemania was damn good, everyone just over looks it because the storyline leading up to it wasn't so hot and Triple H won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Booker/HHH at WM XIX was actually pretty tremendous for both guys. I'd have no problem rating it *** 1/2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 His shampoo feud with Edge wasn't all that good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
