JN News 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Am I the only one here who marked out when Edge finally brought back his submission move, the Figure-Four Edgelock on RAW when he slapped it on Randy Orton for a few seconds before Batista broke it up? Forget the spear, Edge should bring back the Downward Spiral, and the Figure-Four Edgelock as his submission finisher. That's the move he should use to win his matches. The spear is way overused, and needs to be retired. He should start making his opponents tap out from now on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 How long did Edge use the figure-four for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 A few seconds before Batista broke it up. Edge orginally invented the hold on William Regal on RAW in 2002, the night after No Way Out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Isn't it called the Edgecator? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 I would like to see the Grangel Impaler DDT brought back as a transition move and the Spear to disappear and never return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Isn't it called the Edgecator? Maybe. Or he could rename it, the Vertical Edge or The Edgemission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Isn't it called the Edgecator? Maybe. Or he could rename it, the Vertical Edge or The Edgemission. He could just disappear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Now if Edge quit the goofy entrance and stop using the spear he could be a contender for the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Now if Edge quit the goofy entrance and stop using the spear he could be a contender for the title. Yeah, and I personally blame Stuffanie McHam and the WWE Uncreative team for Edge's blandness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted July 1, 2004 I said something about it in my Raw review. I also called it the Figurefour Edgelock, because that's what it used to be referred to back when the Smackdown Six were going strong. Of course, Jim Ross called it a "Sharpshooter variation" which is why I said anything about it at all. Anything Edge would adopt (or re-adopt) would be better than his "hug-o-doom." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Has Edge even done the Edgecution since he came back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Has Edge even done the Edgecution since he came back? He did it once in his match with Kane at Backlash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted July 1, 2004 It made Ray a happy man. Edge~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Is there some clever pun in "Figure-four Edgelock" that I'm just totally missing? It's such a lame move name. Edgucator is better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 A few seconds before Batista broke it up. Edge orginally invented the hold on William Regal on RAW in 2002, the night after No Way Out. I meant to say how long did he use it in the past? I don't remember it at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest suplexmasta Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Cubsfan and I had a nice little spat all about this on his site. It's not even a figure four, it's an elevated reverse indian deathlock. Still, it was quite cool when he busted it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson G 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Fun Facts: It was called the Edge-a-cater for a while when he used it about 2 years ago. It's actually the Nagata Lock I. Nagata Lock II is the Crippler Crossface. *Edited to show Nagata Lock #'s* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Edge also used that move to beat Christian on the Smackdown episode following RAW. Christian "quit" the WWF, afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dace59 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 It's defintly NOT a Nagata Lock I. I = Reverse Figure Four (leg crossed under rather than over) II = Crossface III = Armscissors w/ Armbar and Crossface (think original Rings of Satur with a Crossface) Edge's move, is as far as I remember, an Inverted Sharpshooter w/ Ankle Lock. But eh, it's an OK move for WWE land I guess. But he has far better stuff he could be using. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted July 2, 2004 Also the return of the Edge o Matic. Haven't seen that in a while. At least when its seen they don't call it anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detox 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2004 they call it the edgucator or some shit in the video games but i think that he needs the flatliner a.k.a "the downward spiral" as his move it fits the character more even though steiner used it :. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wondermouse Report post Posted July 2, 2004 Also the return of the Edge o Matic. Haven't seen that in a while. At least when its seen they don't call it anymore. He's used the Edge-o-Matic a few times since his return, I think he did one to a La Res member. Nagata Lock I isn't really a reverse figure-four, but a crooked one. Here's the setup for Nagata Lock I. Nagata Lock II Nagata Lock III The Edgecator/Figure-Four Edgelock (which is a pun on Figure-Four Leglock, I guess) is probably best described as an inverted/crooked sharpshooter. To apply, step between opponent's legs and either grapevine them or cloverleaf them, but leave it loose. Then, you turn them over, but stay in place. At this point, you're off to the side of the opponent, who's on their stomach. I'm not quite sure if it's supposed to affect the back or the legs. I'm used to seeing it on video games, Monday was the only time I saw it IRL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites