Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 At the Done Deal message board that I frequent, a board about professional screenwriting, one of the more established posters (a screenwriter/journalist himself), said that he has a colleague that went to a press screening, and revealed the ending that he saw. Like I said, it's a very established poster, and would have no reason to lie. Hey, awesome message board. And that ending is just...ugh. Awful. I liked "The Sixth Sense", but this doesn't look half as good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2004 Ive seen like 10 different "supposed" spoilers and not one of them matches any of the others in terms of the ending. So 1 of them might be right and the others are wrong, or everyone is lying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Over at RottenTomatoes, the rating started out as 90% or something like that. Since then, over the past few hours, it's started to go way down. I can't wait to see what the rating will be tomorrow. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/village/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Samples from Rotten Tomatoes: "Every village needs an idiot -- and M. Night Shyamalan is hoping it's you." -- Staci Layne Wilson, HORROR.COM "[shyamalan] hasn't lost his eye as a director, but the story is a mess, boring at first and then becoming progressively sillier until it loses complete credibility." -- Glenn Whipp, LOS ANGELES DAILY NEWS "The Village pours on creepy atmosphere, but this dud is too intent on delivering its liberal 'message' to actually deliver the kinds of scares it promises in the terrific trailer." -- Lou Lumenick, NEW YORK POST Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I just know that this film is going to make me want to hurt people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Ebert shit all over it and he doesn't do that anymore. Then again he called I, Robot boring, and I didn't find it boring at all. So, we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Ebert also gave a thumbs up to Van Helsing. I'd rather eat my own shit than watch Van Helsing again. Ebert has been slipping lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Well the thing with Ebert, is that here lately he seems to give the majority of films a pretty good rating, for better or for worse. However, when he finally does give out a stinker of a rating/review...then you know that you need to watch out, and be VERY cautious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I think this is going to be the flick to finally expose Shmalayan as the overrated hack he truly is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I just think is that Night just tries to damn hard. He needs to sit back and just make a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I'd love to see what he could do with a straight up film, with no twist or weird and unusual revalation at the end of it. I'd love to see him concentrate more on story and character developement, instead of the big finale so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Just got back from a midnight showing. Hey.....I enjoyed the movie. Then again I enjoy a lot of things people say are crap. So take my word for what it is. The twist is! the monsters are just suits created by the village people to scare the people into staying in the village. They're kind of cool looking. Like big wolves with giant claws, porcupine quills, and a boar's head. Well anyways the village elder's were all people that met in counseling in Pennsylvania b/c they'd have loved ones that were murdered. William's Hurt's character inherited money from his father and they either paid a wildlife reserve or actually owned one since it's name "Walker" was the same last name as William Hurt's character. Anyways they lived out in the middle of the wildlife preserve untouched until Adrian Brody's(the retard) character get's jealous and stabs Lucious. Well Ivy has to go into the forest and go to get medicine b/c the stabbing wounds have left an infection. Before she leaves her father reveals to her the farce and she enters the woods. But he leaves her a story that "i had heard rumors that there were really creatures in these woods." and so she ends up running into one of them and everyone thinks they're real again. Well then we see Noah's(the retard)parents find him missing along with there suit. Ivy tricks the monster into falling in a hole and we see that it's Noah as he slowly dies at the bottom of the pit. Ivy ends up on the other side of the wildlife preserves wall and a ranger finds her. He figures out that something is going on but he sees that she's innocent and he should just help her. This is where we learn that the park is in on it b/c he goes to get medicine and the manager of the park warns him to not talk to anyone that comes out of the woods. He brings her the medicine, sends her on her way and everyone lives happily ever after. Personally I figured out that they were in a village in a modern day town in the first 5 minutes of the movie. I just didn't figure out about the monsters until they actually told us. I figured it'd be a weird twist, like they were werewolves and they were in transylvania or something crazy and off the wall like that. Also I had a demented idea for the ending: It'd have been cool if before Ivy returns with the medicine they show all of the village elder's around Lucious's bedside talking about the farce they've pulled off and if they should keep it going. One of them looks down and notices one of Lucious's eyes open. Cut to Ivy arriving at the village and she runs in to save Lucious.....only to find out that she didn't make it in time. All of the elder's console her and give each other a "Don't say anything" look. It'd be the perfect twisted ending. They kill Lucious to preserve the secret. Ivy thinks the monster's are real anyways so she can't rat them out. What was the original ending that was leaked out and had to be reshot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 As a note to Damu's spoilers, also know the following Ivy is a blind girl, and she is going to be married to Lucious, a quiet kid who is apparently very brave or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Oh god, that ending sounds hideous. I'm still going to see it tomorrow, but if that's true it sounds Matrix Revolutions level lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Holy tiddlywinks, I can't wait to hear my M. Night Shamalamadingdong fanboy friend defend that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Matrix Revolutions bad? This made sense.....Matrix Revolutions was just a pile of crap with no discernable beginning or end to its crap. Oh and I still liked the movie. Even if I figured it out I still found it very entertaining. It wasn't as suspensful as Signs and I think he could've easily made it like that.....and I wish he had. But Signs had the freaky guitar riff....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Is it just me or has the word for Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle been alot better than The Village ? It's got a 77% rating over at Rotten Tomatoes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Is it just me or has the word for Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle been alot better than The Village ? It's got a 77% rating over at Rotten Tomatoes. Yes it has. The Village is currently running at 45%. Meanwhile, Harold and Kumar have had as many rotten reviews (13) as Catwoman had positive ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted July 30, 2004 If it's worse than Signs, I'm not even going to bother going and watching this for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 Eh......I didn't think Signs was bad. I enjoyed Signs and I usually don't see why people hate it. I liked it. Just b/c there wasn't a twist and the Aliens didn't turn into gigantic brain suckers that had an all out war with everything and anything......... I liked it. And I liked The Village. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I said it earlier, but I think Signs is easily M. Night's best movie thus far, though I have yet to see The Village. Signs is the only one of his movies that actually seems like a real MOVIE, not just some punchline or shaggy dog joke. Here in Louisville H and K go to WC got *1/2 in the paper, while The Village got ***1/2. They're completely full of shit however, Harold and Kumar was great. I saw that at a preview last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2004 I am soooooo tempted to read those spoilers, but I can hold out. I think I'll go see the 4:45 showing by myself because none of my friends want to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 I just got back from it and well, it was a decent movie. The whole problem with the twist thing is that people are expecting it, so it isn't a big twist. If this movie came out before Sixth Sense, then it would have been a huge surprise. The acting was great, with Brody playing his role to perfection along with Howard. The only real problem I have is Night's shots. It seems he is lazy or something with the way he shoots things. B-. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 I saw it and, well... Downhome Wept. There, the shortest review for The Village that you'll find. I'm going to write up a complete review, just so I can share my thoughts on how horrible this piece of shit was. I didn't see a single positive thing about it, it was all bad, bad, bad. Bad filmmaking, writing, EVERYTHING. Everyone involved in the film should hang their head in shame. It was the height of "lazy filmmaking" if you ask me. While I can not speak of anything good about the film, I could go on all day about all of the bad aspects. I rarely "HATE" a film, honestly. If you know me me, you know that when I go to view a film, it is in my nature to look on the bright side of things. If I hate one aspect, I will overlook it as long as there is enough good there to focus on. That can not be done with this film, for me, however. There just isn't anything good there at all to hold on to. I'll leave you with one of the worst lines in history. "I love you, Lucius. I love you like the day is long. I love you more than the sun and the moon together. And if you feel the same way, we should not hide it any longer. It's a gift, love is." Yes, M. Knight Shyamalamadingdong sure is a great writer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 Woah, if DH doesn't like a movie then you know it isn't good. But you didn't even think Brody did a good job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 Yes, M. Knight Shyamalamadingdong sure is a great writer. I read in a review that on the first page of his script, he used "who's" instead of "whose" multiple times. I chuckled, chortled, and guffawed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 I thought Brody did an ok job. Not fantastic, not great, but just ok. My main problem with that role, was that it just shouldn't have been him in the role. I can't believe that he fought to take on the part, I just can't. One of the funniest scenes in the film was the very last time they show Brody, in that monster costume. The way he was laid out, his expression, the suit itself...it looked more like something that would belong in a gay kink porn film, instead of a major Hollywood film. Then the scene where he stabs the leading man, it was just...funny. I just couldn't take the performances seriously. When they both fell to the ground, I leaned to my cousin, and motioned to my cousin that it would be funny if Brody actually started to stab him again. Of course, he did, and we just died. I will give the film one thing, ONE THING. That being, it was funny. From beginning to end, I was laughing my ass off, and so were plenty of others in the theater. The horrible thing about that, is that everything we were laughing at was not meant to be funny in the first place. Just the thought of this shitfest makes me sick. The bad color, the safe color, those of which we do not speak, the shed which we shall not go, MAGIC ROCKS!? It was almost as if a fucking six year old put the film together. Hell, I know children who could put together a better story, with better dialogue. Yes, the film was funny as hell, but for all of the wrong reasons. I've seen better thought out scenes and dialogue posted on this very forum. As for the acting...just...oh my God. Nothing worked in this film for me, nothing. This wasn't a well put together film. No, instead, it was more of an extended SNL sketech. A very bad SNL sketch at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 Wow Downhome......I disagree with everything you said. They talk that way and it sounds goofy b/c they're a bunch of modern Pennsylvanians who moved out into the country and modeled there lifestyle after a book. It sounds goofy b/c it's not there natural way of saying things and they more than likely got it from a book. I don't think we were meant to take it sersiouly. And second of all the part where you died laughing about the part where she confessed her love.......you were supposed to laugh at it. She was supposed to sound corny and stupid as evidenced by his facial expression. Don't know how that one went over your head. In closing......I disagree with everything you said....I had the complete opposite reaction and I loved the movie. And I thought it was very well put together. The only complaint I had was that he could've drawn the suspense out in some parts and made it a little more suspenseful like Signs was. B/c Signs had me on the edge of my seat for most of the movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 They talk that way and it sounds goofy b/c they're a bunch of modern Pennsylvanians who moved out into the country and modeled there lifestyle after a book. It sounds goofy b/c it's not there natural way of saying things and they more than likely got it from a book. I don't think we were meant to take it sersiouly. And second of all the part where you died laughing about the part where she confessed her love.......you were supposed to laugh at it. She was supposed to sound corny and stupid as evidenced by his facial expression. Don't know how that one went over your head. I've seen plenty of films where people talk that way, plenty. This one sounds so fucking stupid, not only because of the delivery, but because the writing of the script just sucks. This was quite possibly one of the worst scripts that I've ever seen put to film. None of the lines worked, none. Nothing went over my head. I understnad that the line was meant to sound corny and whatnot, but it's more than that. It wasn't just what they said, it was a mixture of both that and the delivery. The acting simply wasn't what it should have been, goofy lines or not. Like I said, this was goofy in the "very bad SNL sketch" kind of way, not the intentional type of way that they were trying to relay in this film. If you liked it though, then more power to you. I choose to look at the entire mess as one of the worst examples of filmmaking ever. It was not presented as a comedy, it was not meant to be a comedy. This was a serious, dramatic, horror, suspense, thriller...but it didn't come off that way at all, ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2004 Well I don't think it was a mess nor do I think it was a terrible script with bad line delivery. I honestly don't see why you think that. OH well..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
