Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 And if this guy and Codi Rice were to run against each other, their advisers would work frantically on getting the white vote... Like Democrats would ever vote for a black man... -=Mike Shut up, stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view...articleid=35628 That's a pretty good biographical story about Obama, if anyone's interested. Trust me, you'll be hearing his name a lot in the next 10 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 15, 2004 And if this guy and Codi Rice were to run against each other, their advisers would work frantically on getting the white vote... Like Democrats would ever vote for a black man... -=Mike Shut up, stupid. I guess your nice words failed you. Again. The first black President will be a Republican. Democrats don't support black men as President. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 I guess your nice words failed you. Again. The first black President will be a Republican. Democrats don't support black men as President. -=Mike Please, oh please, provide some ounce of a source on this. I honestly thought that you were joking, and thus, I replied with a joke. Obviously I was wrong. I gave you too much credit. Can you back up your insipidly stupid opinion, please? Or did my previous characterization of you actually hit the nail right on the fucking head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 15, 2004 I guess your nice words failed you. Again. The first black President will be a Republican. Democrats don't support black men as President. -=Mike Please, oh please, provide some ounce of a source on this. I honestly thought that you were joking, and thus, I replied with a joke. Obviously I was wrong. I gave you too much credit. Can you back up your insipidly stupid opinion, please? Or did my previous characterization of you actually hit the nail right on the fucking head? Black VP candidates? Ever been one? Black candidates who actually garnered a decent percentage of the vote? Ever happened? A push in the party FOR a certain black person to be named VP? Still hadn't happened. Dems like paying lip service to blacks to keep them voting like lemmings, but they don't trust them with anything resembling power. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 Black VP candidates? Ever been one? For either party? How does this have anything to do with whether or not someone will vote for him? Black candidates who actually garnered a decent percentage of the vote? Ever happened? Have any worthwhile blacks actually run? And Al Sharpton doesn't count. A push in the party FOR a certain black person to be named VP? Still hadn't happened. Who would that be? Dems like paying lip service to blacks to keep them voting like lemmings, but they don't trust them with anything resembling power. -=Mike And this is the part where you pull down your pants and start talking out of your ass because you've got precisely no point. Good day, sir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 15, 2004 You're just pissy because I'm right. What positions of power has a black EVER held in a Democratic administration? Hmm? You'd think they'd have them BEFORE the "Racist" Republicans --- but shockingly enough, it was the "racist" Republicans who entrusted blacks with power first. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 You're just pissy because I'm right. Yeah... that's it. You made a completely unfounded accusation and refused to even address my previous post. Peachy. What positions of power has a black EVER held in a Democratic administration? Moot point. If Kerry doesn't appoint any minorities, it'll be debatable, but at this point, that still says absolutely nothing about whether Democrats will vote for a black man. This is what we call a straw man, ladies and gentlemen. Hmm? Shut up, I just answered you. You'd think they'd have them BEFORE the "Racist" Republicans --- but shockingly enough, it was the "racist" Republicans who entrusted blacks with power first. -=Mike Whatever happened to the "most qualified individual"? Isn't that what you used to blather on about with affirmative action? Can you name one circumstance in which a black man was proverbially shafted in a situation where the Democrats appointed a less qualified white man instead? Or are you retardedly suggesting that there should have been a "token black man" appointed to someone's cabinet? Because, as I just insinuated, that's a complete turnabout from your position on affirmative action, albeit not the first time you've sold out your positions on other issues for convenience. And again, what in the bloody hell does any of this have to do with whether or not the Democrats would vote for a black man? The President isn't appointed, 2000 notwithstanding. (Joke, morons. Remove your panties from your ass.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 15, 2004 You're just pissy because I'm right. Yeah... that's it. You made a completely unfounded accusation and refused to even address my previous post. Peachy. I made an accusation based on a track record. Blacks are simply mentioned to get votes. They have no intention of giving them any power. What positions of power has a black EVER held in a Democratic administration? Moot point. If Kerry doesn't appoint any minorities, it'll be debatable, but at this point, that still says absolutely nothing about whether Democrats will vote for a black man. This is what we call a straw man, ladies and gentlemen. No, it shows the party's priorities. They can't find a highly qualified black person for ANY important job? Jesus, they only have about 92% of the black population voting for them --- NONE are qualified? Not ONE? Jesus, the NFL has stricter requirements than the DNC. You'd think they'd have them BEFORE the "Racist" Republicans --- but shockingly enough, it was the "racist" Republicans who entrusted blacks with power first. -=Mike Whatever happened to the "most qualified individual"? Isn't that what you used to blather on about with affirmative action? Can you name one circumstance in which a black man was proverbially shafted in a situation where the Democrats appointed a less qualified white man instead? I'm sure Clinton could've found somewhat INFINITELY more qualified than Mack to serve as Chief of Staff. Or Reno to serve as A.G. Funny, Bush found RIDICULOUSLY well-qualified people --- who also happened to be black --- to serve as NSA and Sec. of State. And God knows the number of black Republicans is rather small. Or ar you implying that the only qualified blacks for jobs are also Republicans? Or are you retardedly suggesting that there should have been a "token black man" appointed to someone's cabinet? Because, as I just insinuated, that's a complete turnabout from your position on affirmative action, albeit not the first time you've sold out your positions on other issues for convenience. Nope, just an observation that it is odd that NO black person is qualified for high positions in an administration, not even in Clinton's token-fest of a cabinet. And again, what in the bloody hell does any of this have to do with whether or not the Democrats would vote for a black man? The President isn't appointed, 2000 notwithstanding. (Joke, morons. Remove your panties from your ass.) They've NEVER shown a willingness to do it. There has NEVER been a hue and cry from the Democratic base for a black man to run. Just seems a bit odd that the party that SO supports minorities doesn't seem to want them to have any power. But I guess those millions of blacks who support them AREN'T qualified for high-level jobs --- though that it is one serious condemantion. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 A bunch of needlessly meandering crap that basically sums up to this one point. Can you name one qualified black person who was passed over because the nominee was black? If not, shut the hell up. If so, name him and the person who was affirmed instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 I leave this thread eat my lunch and this erupts?! You two save it for my football contest -- You're playing each other one week... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 15, 2004 A bunch of needlessly meandering crap that basically sums up to this one point. Can you name one qualified black person who was passed over because the nominee was black? If not, shut the hell up. If so, name him and the person who was affirmed instead. There isn't a black person on Earth less qualified for a position than Janet Reno was for AG. But I suppose Clinton wanted that she-male for his "Cabinet that looks like America" -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 I'd agree that the democrats aren't doing enough to put Minorities in prominent positions, and paying just too much lip service without follow through, but that is something both parties are guilty, however the democrats are tagged for it moreso since they claim they sympathize with minorities more. The presidential race is treated like a horse race though and neither candidate will put a black face on his ticket if they think it will hurt the vote count, they both know that there is still a huge number of folks in this country(not the majority, but still a big amount)that will simply NOT vote for an african american. I keep hearing Colin Powel's name thrown around, but besides homeland security & "the war on terrorism"(and even that is questionable considering his flip flopping under tight pressure) Bush and Powell disagree on a LOT of social issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 15, 2004 I'd agree that the democrats aren't doing enough to put Minorities in prominent positions, and paying just too much lip service without follow through, but that is something both parties are guilty, however the democrats are tagged for it moreso since they claim they sympathize with minorities more. The presidential race is treated like a horse race though and neither candidate will put a black face on his ticket if they think it will hurt the vote count, they both know that there is still a huge number of folks in this country(not the majority, but still a big amount)that will simply NOT vote for an african american. I keep hearing Colin Powel's name thrown around, but besides homeland security & "the war on terrorism"(and even that is questionable considering his flip flopping under tight pressure) Bush and Powell disagree on a LOT of social issues. Yes, they probably DO disagree. And Bush STILL picked him as Sec. of State. And he has Condi Rice, who is brilliant. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 .And he has Condi Rice, who is brilliant. -=Mike umm, ok whatever you say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 Yes, they probably DO disagree. And Bush STILL picked him as Sec. of State. -=Mike Well considering Powell has no bearing on social issues or influence in those type of matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 16, 2004 .And he has Condi Rice, who is brilliant. -=Mike umm, ok whatever you say. Oh, I'm sorry --- Stanford always picks idiots to lead their school. My bad. As for Colin, he STILL picked him. I didn't see Clinton picking people who didn't tow the line for him to a single major position. Even Cohen, a RINO is ever there was one, agreed with him on almost everything. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2004 I don't think Powell's views on stuff like affirmative action really matter much when you're talking seceretary of state. And Condi Rice is a brilliant liar but otherwise I'm unimpressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted July 16, 2004 .And he has Condi Rice, who is brilliant. -=Mike umm, ok whatever you say. She enrolled in college at age 15 and graduated when she was 19, cum laude and Phi Betta Kappa. She had her master's when she was 20. When I was twenty, I was still a junior, scrounging for beer money. No matter what your personal opinion of her, to doubt her credentials is pretty ignorant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2004 But, of course, Rice and Powell aren't really black (according to some) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 16, 2004 .And he has Condi Rice, who is brilliant. -=Mike umm, ok whatever you say. She enrolled in college at age 15 and graduated when she was 19, cum laude and Phi Betta Kappa. She had her master's when she was 20. When I was twenty, I was still a junior, scrounging for beer money. No matter what your personal opinion of her, to doubt her credentials is pretty ignorant. No, don't you get it? She's CONSERVATIVE. She can't be intelligent. -=Mike ...Loves seeing people with FAR lesser credentials calling Bush or Rice dumb... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2004 I didn't mean to imply Rice was not intelligent. When you said, "Brilliant" I didn't know you were referring to GPA, or grades in college. I thought you were just using it as an adjective to describe her overall. As far as Bush goes, well I will stand by the opinion I hold of him not being very intelligent, and he does a lot to show it on a daily basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
