Fox News STATEMENT/MEMOS O' HILAIRTY

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FOX News Channel Statement on 'Outfoxed'

 

Any news organization that thinks this story is legitimate is opening itself to having its copyrighted material taken out of context for partisan reasons. The illegal copyright infringement actions of Moveon.org in cooperation with the New York Times, including “cutting a deal” not to give FOX News Channel adequate time to react, is unprecedented. The New York Times corrupts the journalistic process by taking orders from a George Soros-funded web site – Soros is a left-wing billionaire currency speculator who funds many liberal efforts. This is the real story. If any news organizations decide to make this an anti-FOX News story, then all of their material becomes fodder immediately for possible out of context and biased documentaries.

 

The former low-level FOX employees are hardly worth addressing. Some of the “sources” for this documentary never worked for FOX News Channel. Some left because of incompetence, and none expressed concern about editorial policy while employees. They represent fewer than 10 employees out of 2,000 over 8 years. Any news organization that believes this story is big and FOX News Channel is a problem will be challenged by FOX News Channel in the following manner:

 

If they will put out 100 percent of their editorial directions and internal memos, FOX News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and internal memos, and let the public decide who is fair. This includes any legitimate cable news network, broadcast network, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125436,00.html

 

Amusingly but predictably, the NYT, LAT, WPost, NBC, CBS, and ABC are well older than FNC and posting every memo from their origin would be.. Well, tough. The only competitor listed that's anywhere near the same age is MSNBC.

 

Those memos that everyone's talking about are pretty funny, too. Here's some choice quotes from them:

 

Let's spend a good deal of time on the battle over judicial nominations' date=' which the President will address this morning. Nominees who both sides admit are qualified are being held up because of their POSSIBLE, not demonstrated, views on one issue -- abortion. This should be a trademark issue for FNC today and in the days to come.[/quote']

 

The president is doing something that few of his predecessors dared undertake: putting the US case for mideast peace to an Arab summit. It's a distinctly skeptical crowd that Bush faces. His political courage and tactical cunning are worth noting in our reporting through the day.

 

Spain's neighbor' date=' the ever-superior France, had its own spate of railway terrorist warnings last week, though it's not clear that those were in any way related to the Madrid bombings.[/quote']

 

John Kerry may wish he'd taken off his microphone before trashing the GOP. Though he insists he meant republican "attack squads' date='" his coarse description of his opponents has cast a lurid glow over the campaign.[/quote']

 

Kerry, starting to feel the heat for his flip-flop voting record, is in West Virginia. There's a near-meaningless primary in Illinois.

 

For everyone's information' date=' the hotel where our Baghdad bureau is housed was hit by some kind of explosive device overnight. ALL FOX PERSONNEL ARE OK. The incident is a reminder of the danger our colleagues in Baghdad face, day in and day out. Please offer a prayer of thanks for their safety to whatever God you revere (and let the ACLU stick it where the sun don't shine).[/quote']

 

Kofi Annan will announce a top level investigation into the oil for food scandal in which his son is a player. How can the investigation get anywhere when it's run by the father of one of the probe's targets?

 

MONDAY UPDATE: Into Fallujah: It's called Operation Vigilant Resolve and it began Monday morning (NY time) with the US and Iraqi military surrounding Fallujah. We will cover this hour by hour today' date=' explaining repeatedly why it is happening. It won't be long before some people start to decry the use of "excessive force." We won't be among that group.[/quote']

 

Air America, featuring Al Franken and other liberals, got on the air last week, but at what cost? Well, in New York, it took the place of an ethnic show. In LA, it knocked off a Korean program. And in CHicago,a spanish language broadcast was replaced. None of these people are happy.

 

Err on the side of doing too much Iraq rather than not enough. Do not fall into the easy trap of mourning the loss of US lives and asking out loud why are we there?

 

American deaths in this renewed fighting are an important element, but not the only element of the conflict. A battle is more than a macabre statistics report.

 

Army troops are "soldiers." Marines are not; they're "Marines."

 

Today is Good Friday and the beginning of a holy week for Christians. Let's not lose sight of the fact that to millions of people, Easter is more than colored eggs and chocolate bunnies.

 

It should be obvious that we are working hard on the oil for food scandal story at the UN. Please be disposed to use stories on this topic' date=' rather than not.[/quote']

 

THURSDAY UPDATE: let's rock n roll with the korean train explosion. korean websites are speculating freely that it was a mistimed hit on kim. that gives us the right to quote them' date=' and let guests etc speculate. it is eerie that it happened just hours after the dear leader finished his business in china and pointedly took the train home.[/quote']

 

As we worried yesterday' date=' the death toll in the N Korean train wreck looks like it's being drastically revised downward. that doesn't mean we won't follow the story, to the exten we can get information from the Hermit Kingdom.[/quote']

 

Fighting overnight in Najaf didn't go the way the militants there had hoped. Reports say 43 of them were killed' date=' with no US casualties being reported. This is one of the few times we've gotten a count of enemy dead. Let's use that to make the point what happens when terrorists take on the coalition.[/quote']

 

Oil For Food' date=' a story Fox News and the WSJ alone have kept front and center, may be approaching a new critical stage. Benon Sevan, the former head of the program, has returned to New York from his travels.[/quote']

 

let's refer to the US marines we see in the foreground as "sharpshooters" not snipers' date=' which carries a negative connotation.[/quote']

 

Do not ignore the Oil for Food story' date=' please. Fox News is making steady progress in investigating what could be, without exaggeration, the biggest ripoff of all time, the House Intl Relations committee holds more hearings today.[/quote']

 

The President goes to Charlotte to talk about job training. Buoyed by the 300K job figure last week' date=' he can boast his policies are working.[/quote']

 

John Kerry addresses the Black Mayors conference in Philly. We should take some of that live' date=' until it reverts to stump stuff.[/quote']

 

We report, you decide!

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

let's rock n roll with the korean train explosion

 

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Is George Soros going to be the inspiration for someone in the Republican party to introduce the "Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy"?

[Guest INXS]

Heh. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

 

To be fair, Fox News IS aimed at the right-wing gung ho demographic..but I guess the point is that a news service should be impartial.

[Highland 0]

There's no such thing as an unbiased news service.

[Guest INXS]

Some can be less biased than others, such as the BBC. BBC news isn't there to make a profit so are totally independent; they don't rely on advertisers for funding nor do they have to worry as much about viewing figures. Other news channels are tailored towards a certain demographic in order to attract viewers.

[jesse_ewiak 0]

Well, if they're willing to bring up Soros, we can bring up Scafie.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Amusingly but predictably, the NYT, LAT, WPost, NBC, CBS, and ABC are well older than FNC and posting every memo from their origin would be.

 

Fair enough -- let's just see their memos from the time everyone's favorite cable news channel was born then...

[Stephen Joseph 0]

If they used copyrighted material illegally, that's a fair charge no matter which political orientation you are. I'll be interested to see how FNC proves it and where the case goes.

 

But really, it's an OMGFEUD+RATINGS~!

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Seems more like an OMGPISSINGMATCHTHATNOBODYOUTSIDETHEBELTWAYCARESABOUT.

 

Eww, that doesn't look good. Here it is in a readable fashion:

 

OMG Pissing Match That Nobody Outside The Beltway Cares About...

[Guest MikeSC]

Some can be less biased than others, such as the BBC. BBC news isn't there to make a profit so are totally independent; they don't rely on advertisers for funding nor do they have to worry as much about viewing figures. Other news channels are tailored towards a certain demographic in order to attract viewers.

BBC is impartial?

 

Damn, I just spit on my screen.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Woah, he said that (I don't read INXS's posts most of the time)?

 

I guess then NPR would be totally independent, too...

[Guest INXS]

Some can be less biased than others, such as the BBC. BBC news isn't there to make a profit so are totally independent; they don't rely on advertisers for funding nor do they have to worry as much about viewing figures. Other news channels are tailored towards a certain demographic in order to attract viewers.

BBC is impartial?

 

Damn, I just spit on my screen.

-=Mike

That's correct, I have given my reasons also.

[Guest MikeSC]

Some can be less biased than others, such as the BBC. BBC news isn't there to make a profit so are totally independent; they don't rely on advertisers for funding nor do they have to worry as much about viewing figures. Other news channels are tailored towards a certain demographic in order to attract viewers.

BBC is impartial?

 

Damn, I just spit on my screen.

-=Mike

That's correct, I have given my reasons also.

Being "non-profit" HARDLY makes one impartial. Hell, as kkk mentioned, NPR is hardly impartial here. BBC has a definite and unavoidable axe to grind.

-=Mike

[Zorin Industries 0]

I'd still take the BBC over many other news organisations, it may not be impartial, but I do think that it is a hell of a lot more middle of the road than most.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

As we worried yesterday, the death toll in the N Korean train wreck looks like it's being drastically revised downward.

 

 

Wonderful.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Legit question for Brits. We all know who owns Sky News -- does this organization get the same treatment as Fox News does in the states by its critics? (There will be no lol-year this time because I'm asking a serious question and if I said something like "a certain cable news channel that makes one laugh out loud..." my friends from across the Pond might not know what I'm talking about...)

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I guess then NPR would be totally independent, too...

NPR is more independent than you think. PBS even moreso. Get off your Bill O'Reilly book and try a little for yourself before you come to conclusions.

 

Also, odd that CWM was the only guy to notice that they were unhappy to hear that LESS people died in the train wreck.

[Highland 0]

As we worried yesterday, the death toll in the N Korean train wreck looks like it's being drastically revised downward.

Death=Ratings. Mass Deaths=Huge ratings.

[Zorin Industries 0]

Legit question for Brits. We all know who owns Sky News -- does this organization get the same treatment as Fox News does in the states by its critics? (There will be no lol-year this time because I'm asking a serious question and if I said something like "a certain cable news channel that makes one laugh out loud..." my friends from across the Pond might not know what I'm talking about...)

As far as I can see, no, it is a respected news service. Having watched both it and Fox News, I would say there is a difference between the way both channels present news. To be honest I don't really think Foxe News would fly over here as a primary news service

[Guest INXS]

Legit question for Brits. We all know who owns Sky News -- does this organization get the same treatment as Fox News does in the states by its critics? (There will be no lol-year this time because I'm asking a serious question and if I said something like "a certain cable news channel that makes one laugh out loud..." my friends from across the Pond might not know what I'm talking about...)

Sky News is fairly impartial as best as I can see. The channel is less opinionated than FOX with fewer debates and editorials on news stories. The channel comes in for very little criticicism cinsidering who the owner is but there again, the channel doesn't atttempt to push any opinions onto the consumer. Murdoch has The Sun newspaper for that

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Some can be less biased than others, such as the BBC. BBC news isn't there to make a profit so are totally independent; they don't rely on advertisers for funding nor do they have to worry as much about viewing figures. Other news channels are tailored towards a certain demographic in order to attract viewers.

BBC is impartial?

 

Damn, I just spit on my screen.

-=Mike

That's correct, I have given my reasons also.

Isn't this the same BBC that just got busted for biased reporting on the Iraq war?

[Zorin Industries 0]

That was in the Hutton report which was roundly condemened as a whitewash, by nearly every other news service in the U.K, left or right when it came out. There has been some change in the BBC being careful to toe the line, but not much drastic change as far as I can see.

[Guest MikeSC]

Some can be less biased than others, such as the BBC. BBC news isn't there to make a profit so are totally independent; they don't rely on advertisers for funding nor do they have to worry as much about viewing figures. Other news channels are tailored towards a certain demographic in order to attract viewers.

BBC is impartial?

 

Damn, I just spit on my screen.

-=Mike

That's correct, I have given my reasons also.

Isn't this the same BBC that just got busted for biased reporting on the Iraq war?

Don't even go into their coverage of Israel/Palestine conflicts.

-=Mike

[CBright7831 0]

I wish CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC wouldn't be so liberal and FOX wouldn't be so conservative.

[Guest INXS]

Some can be less biased than others, such as the BBC. BBC news isn't there to make a profit so are totally independent; they don't rely on advertisers for funding nor do they have to worry as much about viewing figures. Other news channels are tailored towards a certain demographic in order to attract viewers.

BBC is impartial?

 

Damn, I just spit on my screen.

-=Mike

That's correct, I have given my reasons also.

Isn't this the same BBC that just got busted for biased reporting on the Iraq war?

Don't even go into their coverage of Israel/Palestine conflicts.

-=Mike

There was nothing biased about the BBC's reporting of the Iraq war and any reporting on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Because they are impartial and merely report the facts, to those with a warped, right wing view they DO appear to be biased.

 

The trouble they got in over Iraq/the WMD dossier has now been proven to be a non factor as the intelligence WAS wrong..in other words, the BBC were right!

[Guest MikeSC]

There was nothing biased about the BBC's reporting of the Iraq war and any reporting on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Because they are impartial and merely report the facts, to those with a warped, right wing view they DO appear to be biased.

 

The trouble they got in over Iraq/the WMD dossier has now been proven to be a non factor as the intelligence WAS wrong..in other words, the BBC were right!

I could give you EXAMPLES of it --- but it wouldn't make a difference. You are unable to face that the media source YOU love has an axe to grind. So be it.

-=Mike

[Guest INXS]

I don't "love" them heh..but I do find them the most impartial. I actually use FOX, SKY and ITN as well for a broader perspective.

[Guest MikeSC]

I don't "love" them heh..but I do find them the most impartial. I actually use FOX, SKY and ITN as well for a broader perspective.

And they're not impartial --- but you are unwilling to see that. So be it. Keep in mind, outsiders can FAR more easily see bias.

-=Mike

[EricMM 0]

INXS, don't you see that you have the same axe to grind that BBC may have?

 

(I don't watch much BBC so I can't say)