Krankor 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I'm responding to this thread in general, not to anyone in particular. It's beyond stupid to hate or wish injury upon a athelete JUST because they receive alot of hype from the media. You're an idiot If that's your main reason for "hating" someone. Also if your still majorly pissed off when a pro player allows his agent to give GMs a hard time over money, then perhaps you should stop watching pro sports. That's the world of pro sports now and it will never go back to the time when players would sign the first fair offer they saw. I agree completely. There's no reason to wish career-shortening injuries on someone, unless he broke into your house and stole your child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stoor Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Czech, Vitamin X was talking about Moss's Vikings breaking the Pack's regular season home winning streak. The Packers had won 25 in a row at home from '95-'98, and was approaching the Miami record [which was 27 in a row from 1971-74] when they lost to Minnesota in that Monday night game. I was depressed as hell watching that one, and it rekindled the Packer-Viking rivalry. I've hated Moss ever since. So obviously he's on my list. I had one of my wishes fulfilled last year, when Vick got hurt [i didn't want him done for good, but I've hated him ever since the Falcons broke the Home Playoff winning streak in 2002]. Randy Moss Terrell Owens [it was mentioned earlier, but I too would like to see him taken out by Ray Lewis. It would be just like Chuck Bednarik taking out Frank Gifford in 1960. Bednarik gave Gifford such a vicious hit that Frank missed the entire 1961 season from it.] Kobe Bryant Donovan McNabb [for making Packer fans suffer TWICE last year. I was at Lambeau when he threw the winning TD in the Monday night game, and then he topped that with 4th & 26] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest acnx Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Peter Forsberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Just to avoid arguments, my list is just athletes I'm not very fond of. I'd never wish injuries on anyone without a good reason (like they killed my family or something whack), and even then I'd just do something myself and not wish for something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I'm responding to this thread in general, not to anyone in particular. It's beyond stupid to hate or wish injury upon a athelete JUST because they receive alot of hype from the media. You're an idiot If that's your main reason for "hating" someone. Also if your still majorly pissed off when a pro player allows his agent to give GMs a hard time over money, then perhaps you should stop watching pro sports. That's the world of pro sports now and it will never go back to the time when players would sign the first fair offer they saw. First off, it's not like anyone is actually wishing injury on anyone. Secondly, about the money thing, it's one thing to take the best offer, but it's another to take the best offer to play in a shitty city and then try to pull the "it's not about the money" crap. And any player that makes the negotiations public loses my respect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stoor Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I mean the same thing. I'm not wishing these people to be paralyzed for life or anything, I just don't like these people because they either play for a rival team or I just think lowly of them. The worst I'll really wish is that these people have bad games or get stuck on losing teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I mean the same thing. I'm not wishing these people to be paralyzed for life or anything, I just don't like these people because they either play for a rival team or I just think lowly of them. The worst I'll really wish is that these people have bad games or get stuck on losing teams. Speaking of loser teams, isn't it ironic that Nomar went from the cursed red Sox to the even MORE cursed Cubs? The guy should just look for a deal to Atlanta or some other team like them. They (Braves) are always on top of their division it seems, and cycle through players like kleenex. I'm sure he can find a spot on their roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I'm responding to this thread in general, not to anyone in particular. It's beyond stupid to hate or wish injury upon a athelete JUST because they receive alot of hype from the media. You're an idiot If that's your main reason for "hating" someone. Also if your still majorly pissed off when a pro player allows his agent to give GMs a hard time over money, then perhaps you should stop watching pro sports. That's the world of pro sports now and it will never go back to the time when players would sign the first fair offer they saw. First off, it's not like anyone is actually wishing injury on anyone. Secondly, about the money thing, it's one thing to take the best offer, but it's another to take the best offer to play in a shitty city and then try to pull the "it's not about the money" crap. And any player that makes the negotiations public loses my respect. I wasn't accusing anyone of wishing injury on the atheletes. I was talking about the hate itself and only included "wish injury" because it's the topic. It's reasonable to dislike someone for contract issues such as those. However, I was referring to contract issues like Kellen Winslow II. Such issues are very common in pro sports today, so it's silly to hate a pro athelete over that. "The richest contract for that position" is a short term phrase that changes every few years, so why be pissed off when it happens. In a few years a TE will sign a bigger contract than Winslow's, so who cares. Unless you know for a fact they're a true scumbag in real life, the only reason you should hate a athelete is if they've screwed your team. Such as me hating that horsefaced motherfucker John Elway because I'm a Browns fan for life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Like me with Clemens... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 There's no reason to wish career-shortening injuries on someone, unless he broke into your house and stole your child. Fine then. Mike Piazza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted August 6, 2004 It's reasonable to dislike someone for contract issues such as those. However, I was referring to contract issues like Kellen Winslow II. Such issues are very common in pro sports today, so it's silly to hate a pro athelete over that. "The richest contract for that position" is a short term phrase that changes every few years, so why be pissed off when it happens. In a few years a TE will sign a bigger contract than Winslow's, so who cares. It annoys me because he's never played in the NFL. Had this been another player I have no problem with them getting the best offer possible but I do have a problem with some rookie making the same kinds of issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Randy Moss Terrell Owens Keyshawn Johnson Joey Galloway Kellen Winslow Jr. Roger Clemens Kobe Bryant Derek Jeter Darcy Tucker Tie Domi The Dynamic Duo of Bud Selig & Donald Fehr Mike Martz Pedro Martinez I actually agree with this list except for Jeter (he's a damn fine player and seemingly a model citizen off the field), Terrell and Moss (both tremendous players, and can back their antics up), and Kobe (again, everyone hates him because he knows he is the best). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Such as me hating that horsefaced motherfucker John Elway because I'm a Browns fan for life. I'd put Elway at the top of my list were he still playing. Oh yeah, and I also should add Christian Laettner, Sean Salisbury and Evander Holyfield. Speaking of Elway, I saw him on a commercial for something called Prevacid, but the ad never said what Prevacid does. Anyone know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Prevents Acid They explained it in the commercial. It stops the release of acid in the stomach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I actually agree with this list except for Jeter (he's a damn fine player and seemingly a model citizen off the field), Terrell and Moss (both tremendous players, and can back their antics up), and Kobe (again, everyone hates him because he knows he is the best). Jeter largely because he managed to get A-Rod moved over to third despite A-Rod being twice the player he is. Moss can back it up when he chooses too, which isn't nearly enough. When the going gets tough, Moss stops going. TO, I just don't like for the whole Ravens/Free Agency fiasco in the winter. If you're too stupid to get your papers in on time, then tough shit. Kobe may think he's the best, but he was even the best player on his own team (Shaq), and there are other players that I would rather have than him (Duncan, Garnett). Kobe is the current era's Scottie Pippen, and now that Shaq is gone, he will likely be exposed. LA gave up everything for Kobe, and I just don't think he's worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2004 A-rod will probably become a great all time 3rd baseman now so why the hate. and it wasnt totally up to derek, cmon he may be the captain, but we all know george runs the show. (actually I also think jeter coulda moved to 2nd or 3rd and done fine). enough with the yankee hate and more with something else especially considering they havent won a ws in 4 years and it wouldnt be too unbeleieveable for them to blow another one but hey Im a diehard yanks fan and I like to think I am not one of those obnoxious ones I hear so much about. I think alot of that is people don't understand new yorkers (I especially know that since I moved to cali 10 years ago today) as for my list well it wouldnt be fair so Ill pass but needless to say it may have included certain players from a certain team from new england and countless members of the angels, dodgers,and marlins. and shaq and kobe oops I said a name ill leave before I say rude things because I want you to respect my opinion and its not right to wish harm on others (though it looks like anti yanks curses are working lately with giambi, jeters hand,posadas thumb,the sheffield getting spiked in the same game) and we're now 10.5 above the angry bostonians, so I am a happy man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted August 7, 2004 Kobe may think he's the best, but he was even the best player on his own team (Shaq), and there are other players that I would rather have than him (Duncan, Garnett). Kobe is the current era's Scottie Pippen, and now that Shaq is gone, he will likely be exposed. LA gave up everything for Kobe, and I just don't think he's worth it. You're kidding yourself if you think Shaq is still the best player. Kobe's only getting better, and Shaq is only getting worse, what that does overall for the team may mean something else entirely, but Kobe is still probably the best perimeter player in the game, while Shaq is deteoriating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2004 I'm no huge Yankee fan, but you can't really blame the A-Rod thing on Jeter. He's probably the most well-known player of this current Yankee dynasty. If I was him, I wouldn't expect to have to move to a new position for a newcomer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 7, 2004 Kobe may think he's the best, but he was even the best player on his own team (Shaq), and there are other players that I would rather have than him (Duncan, Garnett). Kobe is the current era's Scottie Pippen, and now that Shaq is gone, he will likely be exposed. LA gave up everything for Kobe, and I just don't think he's worth it. You're kidding yourself if you think Shaq is still the best player. Kobe's only getting better, and Shaq is only getting worse, what that does overall for the team may mean something else entirely, but Kobe is still probably the best perimeter player in the game, while Shaq is deteoriating. That is precisely why Kobe hates Shaq so much. Because while Shaq isn't the "best" player of the two -- Kobe would murder him in a game of 1-on-1 -- he is the one who the Lakers revolved around. As a guard, Kobe Bryant has to be a great all-around player in order to become what he has; an NBA starter. He had to be, in the least, in top shape to be great. His jumper has to be on-point, his ball-handling, passing, and defense have to be top-notch if he's going to keep his spot, because there are thousands of 6-foot-7 kids out there trying to play in the NBA. Meanwhile, we all know 7-footers don't necessarily have to be good all-around players to make it to the NBA. Some of them just have to do one thing above-average, be it shot-blocking or rebounding or simply being tall. That's what Kobe sees in Shaq: someone far less talented than him. So what happens when Kobe reaches the NBA? All the attention and fame is being taken by this 7-foot, 300-pound guy who isn't nearly the pure athletic talent as Kobe. Shaq doesn't have to have a jumper. He doesn't have to hit threes. He doesn't have to have a crossover or a quick first step. Yet he was universally seen as "The Man" in L.A. That is what burned Kobe Bryant more than anything when it came to Shaq, I think. Here Kobe is, one of the best all-around players in the game, and this (in his mind) fat-ass giant just dunks and blocks a few shots and he's getting all the fame. Now, while I like Shaq as a player, on some level, I kinda understand why Kobe would be a bit upset by the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted August 7, 2004 I'm glad someone else could finally understand that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted August 7, 2004 People finally realized Shaq's talent is being really tall? Thank you lord! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 8, 2004 Donovan McNabb -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 8, 2004 (edited) Griffey Junior. If you're going to hold a petty grudge against a dead guy over some minor thing from the 1980s, fine, let everyone know what an ass you are. But because that whole "Billy Martin is dead" thing makes Griffey look bad, he changes the villain of his little sob story. Edited August 8, 2004 by Anglesault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kid Kablam Report post Posted August 8, 2004 - Tony Twist (you were a goon, not some goal scoring angel. McFarlane cost you nothing, and probably gave you more publicity than you deserve. Deal with it) Is he still bitching about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2004 He won a lawsuit a month or so ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2004 Barry Bonds, Racist Dusty and Scottie Pippen. That's about it for me. Now sports anchors and broadcasters on the other hand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Griffey Junior. If you're going to hold a petty grudge against a dead guy over some minor thing from the 1980s, fine, let everyone know what an ass you are. But because that whole "Billy Martin is dead" thing makes Griffey look bad, he changes the villain of his little sob story. What's the story behind this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 21, 2004 Griffey Junior. If you're going to hold a petty grudge against a dead guy over some minor thing from the 1980s, fine, let everyone know what an ass you are. But because that whole "Billy Martin is dead" thing makes Griffey look bad, he changes the villain of his little sob story. What's the story behind this? Hey, this is my first day back, so I figured I'd answer now. Right around the time Griffey became a Red, someone asked him his opinion of the Yankees for whatever reason. He responded with a whiny rant about how he'd never be a Yankee because George treated him poorly when his daddy was a Yankee. When asked what he meant, he claimed that Steinbrenner kicked him out of the clubhouse because he didn't want any kids in the Yankees area or something. Which is all fine and everything, except that shortly after he said that, several Yankees (and various people in the know) confirmed the story with one major twist. It was Billy Martin who kicked him out. Seeing as Martin was dead a good ten or so years when he told his tale, the villain became Steinbrenner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2004 I think he had been telling that story a while before he went to Cincy, I heard it before then at least. It's why Yankee fans hated him so much throughout his hey-day. He hated the organization for the most assinine thing imanginable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites