Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Rather than guaranteeing himself universal empathy after the rather bad Swift Boat Vets ad, Kerry decided to make sure that people DIDN'T like him by deciding that one of Michael Moore's talking points was WELL worth mentioning. Yup, he said that if he was President and heard we were under attack, he wouldn't have sat in a school for seven minutes. Dammit, he would've ACTED!! Which, of course, is belied by what Kerry ACTUALLY DID on 9/11. From Kerry's interview with Larry King: "...And as I came in [to a meeting in Sen. Daschle's office], Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon..." http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0407/08/lkl.00.html So, was Kerry WRONG to sit in his office in a daze? Nope. Most people were in a daze --- I know I was. But, Jesus Christ, saying he would've acted when he clearly didn't not only politicizes the tragedy, it makes him look like a fucking idiot. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I think this has already been posted. Or something pretty close. And I am not sure the point, considering Kerry wasn't the president at the time and wasn't expected to act. He was simply asked a question as to what he would have done in the same situation, and as expected, any response other then, "I would have done the same thing as Bush, he did the appropriate thing, god bless that man" is met with criticism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I think this has already been posted. Or something pretty close. And I am not sure the point, considering Kerry wasn't the president at the time and wasn't expected to act. He was simply asked a question as to what he would have done in the same situation, and as expected, any response other then, "I would have done the same thing as Bush, he did the appropriate thing, god bless that man" is met with criticism. No --- attacking Bush for his reaction is pathetic, childish, and politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. As Rudy said, Kerry is apparently taking talking points from Michael Moore... -=Mike ...If you say "I would've acted", but you DIDN'T act --- then you'd best learn to simply shut the hell up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Rather than guaranteeing himself universal empathy after the rather bad Swift Boat Vets ad Speaking of which. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I think this has already been posted. Or something pretty close. And I am not sure the point, considering Kerry wasn't the president at the time and wasn't expected to act. He was simply asked a question as to what he would have done in the same situation, and as expected, any response other then, "I would have done the same thing as Bush, he did the appropriate thing, god bless that man" is met with criticism. No --- attacking Bush for his reaction is pathetic, childish, and politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. As Rudy said, Kerry is apparently taking talking points from Michael Moore... -=Mike ...If you say "I would've acted", but you DIDN'T act --- then you'd best learn to simply shut the hell up... He wasn't the Commander in Chief at the time though. He didn't attack Bush, he didn't say anything along the lines of, "Bush was wrong in what he did because....." He was just simply asked what HE would have done in the same situation. How the president reacts in the situation should not be the same as yer average joe, or even a senator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Rather than guaranteeing himself universal empathy after the rather bad Swift Boat Vets ad Speaking of which. It was a dumb ad that Bush has, rightly, distanced himself from. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I know. I'm just pointing out that not even the vets say it's true at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I know. I'm just pointing out that not even the vets say it's true at this point. Which changes it being a "dumb ad" in WHAT way, precisely? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Not only is it a "DUMB" ad, it's also a "FALSE" one. Get the sand out of your vagina. I was agreeing with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Attacking Bush over sitting in the school for a few minutes is one of the most fucking pathetic things that I've ever heard in my life. It Kerry was president, I sure as hell wouldn't have been pissed at him for staying calm, and not just rushing out. When you have to start bitching about that, it shows you are just desperate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted August 6, 2004 politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. I found this particularly funny for some ODD reason... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. I found this particularly funny for some ODD reason... Because you're an idiot. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted August 6, 2004 politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. I found this particularly funny for some ODD reason... Because you're an idiot. -=Mike oh wow... you OWNED me with that one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. I found this particularly funny for some ODD reason... Because you're an idiot. -=Mike oh wow... you OWNED me with that one Shouldn't you have said "PWNED" to complete your triumph in usage of lame internet posting lines? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted August 6, 2004 politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. I found this particularly funny for some ODD reason... Because you're an idiot. -=Mike oh wow... you OWNED me with that one Shouldn't you have said "PWNED" to complete your triumph in usage of lame internet posting lines? -=Mike outside of "lol" when have I ever used such garbage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Attacking Bush over sitting in the school for a few minutes is one of the most fucking pathetic things that I've ever heard in my life. It Kerry was president, I sure as hell wouldn't have been pissed at him for staying calm, and not just rushing out. Here's the actual text of what Kerry said: "Had I been reading to children and had my top aide whispered in my ear, 'America is under attack,' I would have told those kids very politely and nicely that the president of the United States had something that he needed to attend to -- and I would have attended to it," Kerry told the Unity conference of minority journalists in response to a question about what he would done. Why is this even news, and why do you consider it an attack? Look at Kerry's plain, nonconfrontational response. It’s a meaningless question from a reporter; it’s not like he made this a part of his stump speech. What exactly is Kerry supposed to say, if not that he would handle the problem immediately and serve the American public? Bush had to collect his thoughts for a few minutes before he got his gameface on (in my hometown, no less!). Fine by me. If Kerry had said “I certainly wouldn’t have sat there for 7 minutes while thousands of Americans died as President Bush did,” or something similarly ridiculous, then you’d have a case. But Kerry didn’t say that, and he shouldn’t be criticized for giving a generic, I-will-serve-this-country response to an asinine, out-of-line question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 politicizing a national tragedy for personal gain. I found this particularly funny for some ODD reason... Because you're an idiot. -=Mike oh wow... you OWNED me with that one Shouldn't you have said "PWNED" to complete your triumph in usage of lame internet posting lines? -=Mike outside of "lol" when have I ever used such garbage? Go back and try and re-read your old, terrible screeds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Shit's gettin deep Mike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted August 6, 2004 You'd think that, once in a while... you would actually WANT to surprise us by at least appearing to know what you're talking about Thats asking too much though I suppose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 You'd think that, once in a while... you would actually WANT to surprise us by at least appearing to know what you're talking about Thats asking too much though I suppose jig, when an fucking moron thinks you don't know what you're talking about, you're doing something right. Thanks. Your ignorance can only inspire the rest of us. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 You'd think that, once in a while... you would actually WANT to surprise us by at least appearing to know what you're talking about Thats asking too much though I suppose jig, when an fucking moron thinks you don't know what you're talking about, you're doing something right. Thanks. Your ignorance can only inspire the rest of us. -=Mike wow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted August 6, 2004 You'd think that, once in a while... you would actually WANT to surprise us by at least appearing to know what you're talking about Thats asking too much though I suppose jig, when an fucking moron thinks you don't know what you're talking about, you're doing something right. Thanks. Your ignorance can only inspire the rest of us. -=Mike how appropriate, you fight like a cow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Staying out of the debate, I must say that I marked for that. Pardon the intrusion, carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 You'd think that, once in a while... you would actually WANT to surprise us by at least appearing to know what you're talking about Thats asking too much though I suppose jig, when an fucking moron thinks you don't know what you're talking about, you're doing something right. Thanks. Your ignorance can only inspire the rest of us. -=Mike how appropriate, you fight like a cow Wow, and the flames go from lame to sad. That was almost painfully pathetic. Invest in some less shitty material. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I do not think that Pres. Bush staying in the class was a bad thing, and I do not think Kerry should use the fact that he stayed in the classroom as a political strategy. But, Mike I do disagree with your point of Kerry not doing anything. He was only a senator, he did not have the power to shut down the airports or ready the military. There is not much he really could have done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted August 6, 2004 You'd think that, once in a while... you would actually WANT to surprise us by at least appearing to know what you're talking about Thats asking too much though I suppose jig, when an fucking moron thinks you don't know what you're talking about, you're doing something right. Thanks. Your ignorance can only inspire the rest of us. -=Mike how appropriate, you fight like a cow Wow, and the flames go from lame to sad. That was almost painfully pathetic. Invest in some less shitty material. -=Mike It's a MONKEY ISLAND reference you ridiculous self righteous ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 It's a MONKEY ISLAND reference you ridiculous self righteous ass It was a SHITTY reference regardless, you unoriginal twatrock. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 So, is anyone who thinks what Kerry said was awful actually going to respond to my post, or are we just going to hit each other with our dicks all day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 6, 2004 So, is anyone who thinks what Kerry said was awful actually going to respond to my post, or are we just going to hit each other with our dicks all day? Politicizing the tragedy is wrong. Kerry SHOULD have said "I'm not going to reply to that question" --- but no, taking a shot at the President is more important. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 You guys should have a debate, all you need is a moderator who would pick out topics concerning the upcoming presidential election, you would then have a set time limit and word limit to explain your opinion. Only thing is, referencing Monkey Island or using the word twat would be frowned upon. You could call it Debate 04: A good lie is built on a foundation of trust, Smartmarks challenge your notion of the truth. Okay, that was gay, but still, have at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
