notJames 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 1. Would you pick Corey Dillon over Rudi Johnson? 2. How would you rate Quentin Griffin? How about Lee Suggs 3. Would you pick Trent Green over Matt Hasslebeck? What about Brett Favre 4. Would you pick Michael Vick over Donovan McNabb? And do you consider them #1 or #2 QBs? 5. Do you consider Brian Westbrook a true starter or a RBBC? Thanks in advance for your responses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kageho Report post Posted August 10, 2004 (edited) 1. Would you pick Corey Dillon over Rudi Johnson? 2. How would you rate Quentin Griffin? How about Lee Suggs 3. Would you pick Trent Green over Matt Hasslebeck? What about Brett Favre 4. Would you pick Michael Vick over Donovan McNabb? And do you consider them #1 or #2 QBs? 5. Do you consider Brian Westbrook a true starter or a RBBC? Thanks in advance for your responses. 1. I would take Corey Dillon over Rudi Johnson, just becuase I don't trust the o-line Johnson has in front of him. 2. Quentin Griffin is pretty good, about a 6 (of 10) as an RB. Not a 1st or 2nd round pick though. Not sure about Suggs. 3. Trent Green definitely over Matt Hasslebeck, simply because Green gets more fantasy points. I wouldn't take Favre as it is supposedly Ahman Green's team. 4. McNabb is about middle of the pack for quality QBs, and when Vick is healthy, he is one of the top three for fantasy choices though (just because he gets the rushing yards and gets quite a lot of them). 5. Brian Westbrook is supposed to be starting this year and be a true RB, and from what he gained last year from how little he played, I think it is safe to say he'll get you at least a thousand yards maybe a little more than that. Problem is, is since TO is in town, it most likely will be the McNabb-Owens show most times. He's a good solid choice for a #2 RB for a fantasy team. Edited August 10, 2004 by Kageho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 1) Rudi, on the assumption last year wasn't a fluke. NE doesn't really rely on the run too much, although that could change this year w/ a legit #1 RB. 2) Don't know enough here. 3) Green > Hasselback > Favre 4) Tough choice. I'd lean towards Vick, since I think he'll run more than McNabb. McNabb could have a good throwing year now that he has Owens, but the Eagles generally don't put the ball up a lot. 5) He won't be a starter for the Eagles, IMO. I'm asusming the Eagles will do the RB-by-committee thing they did last year (pinjockey may be able to answer that question, though), so I don't know how many touches he'll get. I'd take him with a mid-to-later round pick (if available), but I wouldn't draft him with the purpose of making him a starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goatfish Report post Posted August 10, 2004 1. Yes, I would. They should basically be the same back, but Dillon will be used more up here in NE when the snow and cold comes in. They will rely on him to pound the ball in the red zone. Plus I would pick Dillon just for a homer pick (from NE here). 2. I would rate Suggs over Griffin actually. Griffin has more potential to succeed due to Denver's line and his trememndous speed, but Bell and Hearst have the potential to vulture td's from him. Suggs is a safer bet, since all he has to deal with in Cle is Green, who should be a non-factor. Just depends on if you can afford a risk when your time comes to pick between them. 3. No. Hasselbeck is a top 5 option this year. People might think he will fall off this year but he has Robinson/Jackson/Alexander around him. I believe Hasselbeck will repeat his numbers from last year. I would rate Green over Favre however because of Favre's thumb issues (he won't miss a game, but it could bother him), plus Green has a more dynamic offense around him. 4. Yes I would. I have Vick as my third QB off the board and McNabb as four, and it could go either way to be perfectly honest with you now that McNabb has Owens. But Vick's ability to change the game with his speed is the dealbreaker. Neither one should be picked before Culpepper and Manning however. 5. I think he's a true starter. Buckhalter will get his share of carries but everything i've heard coming out of Philly points to them having faith in Westbrook to carry the load. He can also catch the ball very well as well as run it. McNabb will be throwing to Owens a lot, but I believe Westbrook is a great early third/late second round pick (say if you have a pick near the end of the second round, you can afford to jump on Manning or a WR, and snag Westbrook on the comearound). Hope that helps you out a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 In regards to Westbrook, he is not going to be a starter in the sense that he will get 20 carries a game. He is going to be spliting the rushing load. But the plan is to get Westbrook a lot of touches through various different ways (returns, receptions, rushes). So he is not going to be the starter for the Eagles, but I would (and am) use him as a starter for fantasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Depends on the league scoring system. If a player gets points for each of running/receiveing/returning, it might make sense to use him as a starter. The league I'm in doesn't attribute return stats to a partic. player, so that's why I wouldn't use him as a starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 I would also take into account whether this is a TD or yardage league. If your league leans toward TDs then he is a very good pickup, but if your league leans towards yards he isn't going to rack them up as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Just to clarify, my league counts both yardage and TDs (1 pt. for every 10 yds, 6 pts. for every TD), but not return yardage (that falls under team defense/special teams). RBs also get pts. for receiving yardage and TDs, but not receptions. So far, you guys have been most helpful. Thanks a bunch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 1. Would you pick Corey Dillon over Rudi Johnson? 2. How would you rate Quentin Griffin? How about Lee Suggs 3. Would you pick Trent Green over Matt Hasslebeck? What about Brett Favre 4. Would you pick Michael Vick over Donovan McNabb? And do you consider them #1 or #2 QBs? 5. Do you consider Brian Westbrook a true starter or a RBBC? Thanks in advance for your responses. 1) If it's a keeper league, then I take Johnson over Dillon. Otherwise, Dillon. 2) Suggs is more injury prone than Griffin, but it's more likely that Griffin will get pulled for Bell. Hearst is likely the short yardage guy. Flip a coin. 3) Hasselback over Green. I think that there's more potential for Hasselback to pick up points, especially if Robinson shows up to play this year. 4) I'd go with McNabb over Vick, only because McNabb seems to do very well down the stretch. Plus I'm not 100% trusting the ankle. 5) I've got Westbrook in my keeper league, and he's RBBC, but remember that that committee is less one, so it's really a platoon situation. Still, he's like the Pinball Clemons of the NFL right now, so he should get you the points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 I would stay away from Michael Vick, he already is having problems at training camp with his hammy. On my team I got McNabb and Favre Only get Westbrook if you want reception numbers for a running back, expect alot of short passes West Coast style. He would make a good second RB but is not a first rounder pick maybe a third rounder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2004 1. I guess go with Corey, but do NOT underestimate the Bengals O-Line, and I really think they'll have similar stats. 2. Griffin could rack up yards, but can he nadle 300 carries. I guess I would take Suggs over Griffin, but neither too high. 3. Hasselbeck>Green>Favre 4. I'll take McNabb over Vick because he is a lot more durable. 5. Depends on how big your league is. I don't think he will put big numbers, fantasy numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted August 11, 2004 The thing you need to consider with Dillion/Rudi is that Rudi will probably have to contend with Chris Perry for carries while Dillion most likely won't. I'd take Suggs. Denver's running attack is going to be a mess as far as who's running it. Suggs was fairly impressive during his outings last season. Hasselback easily. He's still improving. Green is better than Favre though. Favre got away with murder during the last 6 or so games where he was just throwing these jump balls constantly. Neither are a good choice IMO. Vick's best season still saw him only put up average numbers and while he does rack up yards he doesn't score enough TDs to really make him a big fantasy point getter. McNabb's ratio has 12/9 on TD/INTs last season which is unacceptable as far as fantasy goes. Yes he has TO but he has to get the ball to him and not underthrow him, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites