Scott Steiner officially fired from WWE

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Where's Choken One? He's the resident Steiner mark around here, isn't he?

that dude's been banned for awhile now...

[Scroby 0]

It's not like Steiner has any rub left to give or anything. Two of the guys you mentioned, Angle and Guerrero, are way bigger stars than Steiner and beating him means no more than if they beat Test.

 

I think he ment mic wise, as Steiner was always a good heel and probably match up with them on the mic if allowed to say what he wanted to say. Steiner on SD! wouldn't really have been that bad, I just don't think WWE had much of anything to do with him on Raw after the HHH angle.

 

As far as the Jerry Lynn thing goes, I think he just had heat with Heyman for angle reasons, I think not being put on the WCW/ECW vs the WWE angle being one of the things but if he had any problem with the criusers it could have been because he won the cruiserweight title first day in the company and really didn't care to hold it as he told people it was a worthless title.

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A lot of the heat on Jerry Lynn came from a television interview he did. Paul Heyman, one of Lynn's enemies, sabotaged him on this one. They were interviewing Lynn at WWF New York during Judgment Day 2001. Paul Heyman told him through his headset at ringside to cut a bitter promo against the WWF holding him back and how worthless the title he was holding was ("I hold a WWF title, and I'm not even on the PPV. Shows how important this title is"). After the interview (and if you watch it, you can tell Jim Ross is confused), Vince McMahon was reportedly furious at Lynn, and the heat was so bad that it eventually led to his firing.

 

I never heard of any heat he had with Crash Holly or the WCW cruiserweights.

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...and A-Train still has a job.

 

He is a WWE homegrown star and they take care of their own, this is the same company that got rid of Jerry Lynn while he was injured but they don't want to fired Test because they all of a sudden don't get rid of injured wrestlers.

 

And he should have a job. Easily one of the more entertaining superstars in the WWE and he has still has potential to get better. We've gone through this before on this board. A-Train is both underrated and underappreciated. End of story.

 

 

I'd laugh. But i'm not so sure you're not almost serious.

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...and A-Train still has a job.

He is a WWE homegrown star and they take care of their own, this is the same company that got rid of Jerry Lynn while he was injured but they don't want to fired Test because they all of a sudden don't get rid of injured wrestlers.

And he should have a job. Easily one of the more entertaining superstars in the WWE and he has still has potential to get better. We've gone through this before on this board. A-Train is both underrated and underappreciated. End of story.

Oh, so that's why every attempt to push him and get him out of the lower mid-card ends up with a miserable failure on our hands and A-Train back to the lower mid-card?

 

Boy, he sure does earn his stripes, doesn't he? He's had 6 years to excecute this "potential to get better" and he hasn't. He's still the same old garbage. Just like Test.

 

"You can't make a living on unrealized potential." -- Jim Ross

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Oh, so that's why every attempt to push him and get him out of the lower mid-card ends up with a miserable failure on our hands and A-Train back to the lower mid-card?

 

Boy, he sure does earn his stripes, doesn't he? He's had 6 years to excecute this "potential to get better" and he hasn't. He's still the same old garbage. Just like Test.

 

"You can't make a living on unrealized potential." -- Jim Ross

Well to be fair everytime they push A-Train it's a half assed push most of the time and they don't give him enough time to get over and then they just drop him back to the lower mid-card. And then they keep repeating it for the last few years. And when they keep doing that to a wrestler the fans get tired of it and just don't give a damn about the wrestler.

[Enigma 0]

Oh, so that's why every attempt to push him and get him out of the lower mid-card ends up with a miserable failure on our hands and A-Train back to the lower mid-card?

 

Boy, he sure does earn his stripes, doesn't he? He's had 6 years to excecute this "potential to get better" and he hasn't. He's still the same old garbage. Just like Test.

 

"You can't make a living on unrealized potential." -- Jim Ross

Well to be fair everytime they push A-Train it's a half assed push most of the time and they don't give him enough time to get over and then they just drop him back to the lower mid-card. And then they keep repeating it for the last few years. And when they keep doing that to a wrestler the fans get tired of it and just don't give a damn about the wrestler.

I was at the Smackdown in December 2002 in Atlanta when Albert officially transformed into A-Train. The main event of that show was Edge & Kurt Angle vs. The Big Show & A-Train. People were leaving the arena during the match because it was so boring. I even heard people in the crowd say, "I hope he's not going to be a main guy" and "Why is he in the last match? He sucks."

 

Face it, A-Train is boring and he's nothing special. Other than sleep-inducing matches and his verbal in-ring scream tributes to Lex Luger, there's nothing he can contribute to the company, whether it be his fault or not, so there is no reason for him to be on the payroll.

[Guest deadbeater]

Yes! The days of the roid ragers in the WWE are gone.

 

I like A-Train. He and Evolution's Bats should stop beng plods and let themselves go in the ring. It worked for Aja Kong and Brock Lesnar.

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...and A-Train still has a job.

He is a WWE homegrown star and they take care of their own, this is the same company that got rid of Jerry Lynn while he was injured but they don't want to fired Test because they all of a sudden don't get rid of injured wrestlers.

"don't get rid of injured wrestlers" = job security by being in a relationship with a very popular Diva.

 

 

edit: They call me Capt. Obvious.

Edited August 18, 2004 by Y2Jerk

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So long, Steiner, some of us will miss you.

[Guest MikeSC]

It's not like Steiner has any rub left to give or anything. Two of the guys you mentioned, Angle and Guerrero, are way bigger stars than Steiner and beating him means no more than if they beat Test.

 

I think he ment mic wise, as Steiner was always a good heel and probably match up with them on the mic if allowed to say what he wanted to say. Steiner on SD! wouldn't really have been that bad, I just don't think WWE had much of anything to do with him on Raw after the HHH angle.

 

As far as the Jerry Lynn thing goes, I think he just had heat with Heyman for angle reasons, I think not being put on the WCW/ECW vs the WWE angle being one of the things but if he had any problem with the criusers it could have been because he won the cruiserweight title first day in the company and really didn't care to hold it as he told people it was a worthless title.

Wasn't Lynn SUPPOSED to be put into the Invasion angle, but was injured? I remember the WWF website actually mentioning that Lynn joined the Alliance before they had to change it due to him being injured and unable to attend the show.

-=Mike

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QUOTE (Scroby @ Aug 17 2004, 11:32 AM)

 

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It's not like Steiner has any rub left to give or anything. Two of the guys you mentioned, Angle and Guerrero, are way bigger stars than Steiner and beating him means no more than if they beat Test. 

 

 

I think he ment mic wise, as Steiner was always a good heel and probably match up with them on the mic if allowed to say what he wanted to say. Steiner on SD! wouldn't really have been that bad, I just don't think WWE had much of anything to do with him on Raw after the HHH angle.

 

As far as the Jerry Lynn thing goes, I think he just had heat with Heyman for angle reasons, I think not being put on the WCW/ECW vs the WWE angle being one of the things but if he had any problem with the criusers it could have been because he won the cruiserweight title first day in the company and really didn't care to hold it as he told people it was a worthless title.

 

 

Wasn't Lynn SUPPOSED to be put into the Invasion angle, but was injured? I remember the WWF website actually mentioning that Lynn joined the Alliance before they had to change it due to him being injured and unable to attend the show.

-=Mike

 

If I remember correctly Lynn was the one from ECW who never joined due to whatever reason, but I could have swore in a interview Lynn said there were never any plans for him to join the alliance, I'm pretty sure he got injured during the angle.

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Anyway, Steiner. It amazes me that people say they dropped the ball with the guy....I mean they put him in a title feud right off the bat and he was so pathetic in the ring that the entire crowd turned on him. Personally I would have just jettisoned the guy after he jobbed to HHH.

 

That said, his match with test at last June's PPV led to one of the greatest, funniest things ever. Remember when Test was outside the ring and Steiner did a running jump to attack him...and then slipped and fell right on his face! That was just hysterical, I bet I rewound the tape of it a dozen times that night.

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edit: They call me Capt. Obvious.

Actually, they call me Capt. Obvious.

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A lot of the heat on Jerry Lynn came from a television interview he did. Paul Heyman, one of Lynn's enemies, sabotaged him on this one. They were interviewing Lynn at WWF New York during Judgment Day 2001. Paul Heyman told him through his headset at ringside to cut a bitter promo against the WWF holding him back and how worthless the title he was holding was ("I hold a WWF title, and I'm not even on the PPV. Shows how important this title is"). After the interview (and if you watch it, you can tell Jim Ross is confused), Vince McMahon was reportedly furious at Lynn, and the heat was so bad that it eventually led to his firing.

 

I never heard of any heat he had with Crash Holly or the WCW cruiserweights.

Dude, that reeked of work. Unless you have a source, like the Observer, I will continue to believe it was.

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Lynn was around for a good month after ECW joined the Invasion angle. He fought several WCW stars on Heat and Jakked, and they'd always question why he didn't joine, but nothing came of it do to his injury.

 

And Lynn had been recovered from his injury for several weeks before he was fired. If I recall, he'd been sitting around at OVW for weeks before they let him go to do the WWA show.

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They should have put him in a feud with Test where they fight over Stacy, then have him turn heel and they could "share" Stacy... oh wait...nevermind.

Did this feud ever have a blowoff? If not, I'm kind of dissapointed that we won't be getting Test vs Steiner round 327.

 

Steiner could have been an effective upper-card heel on Smackdown too, although if they put him in the ring with Angle and he botched one of those belly to belly suplexes, Kurt's career would have been over.

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Steiner could have become even greater if they pushed him right.