Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Congratulations Mr.Bush on catching up on what the whole world has known for nearly a year now http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3604564.stm US President George W Bush has acknowledged for the first time that he made a "miscalculation" of what conditions would be in post-war Iraq. Mr Bush told The New York Times that the error was by by-product of a "swift victory" in the initial conflict. Saddam Hussein's military disappeared into cities, enabling them to mount a rebellion against US troops much faster than Washington anticipated, he said. Mr Bush also told the newspaper John Kerry had not lied over his war record. On Iraq, Mr Bush said the US's strategy had been "flexible enough" to respond to the long-running insurgency, and said that even now "we're adjusting to our conditions" in places such as Najaf, where a stand-off has just ended between US and Iraqi troops and Shia militants. But Mr Bush declined to enter into discussion with the newspaper on further mistakes in Iraq. He said, just as his father has done, that he would resist going "on the couch" to rethink decisions. Asked by the USA Today, in a separate interview, how the death toll - now approaching 1,000 US military personnel - would affect his election chances, he answered: "The president has to make hard decisions. "My job is to confront problems not pass them on. And the American people have seen me make the hardest of decisions. That's just going to have to be a part of their decision-making process." John Kerry On his opponent John Kerry, he declined to condemn the television advertisement paid for by a veterans group alleging that the Democrat presidential candidate came by his medals dishonestly. But he stressed too that he was a victim of the same type of political interest groups - called 527 committees after the section of the tax code which governs this type of organisation - which are attacking Mr Kerry. "I understand how Senator Kerry feels - I've been attacked by 527s too," he said. He added that he had spoken earlier to Senator John McCain and had agreed to join him in a lawsuit against the Federal Election Commission to ban the groups. The war records of President Bush and Mr Kerry have become a key issue in the campaign. On the environment, Mr Bush appeared unfamiliar with an administration report delivered to Congress this week which suggested that carbon dioxide emissions were the only likely explanation for global warming over the last 30 years, said the newspaper. Mr Bush in the past has said there are uncertainties in understanding the causes of global warming. Asked why the administration had changed its mind on the causes of global warming, Mr Bush replied: "Ah, we did?" On North Korea and Iran, he said he would not be rushed into setting deadlines for the countries to disarm. The newspaper said in the past Mr Bush has said he would not "tolerate" nuclear capability in either nation, but would not define what he meant by "tolerate". "I'm confident that over time this will work - I certainly hope it does," he said of the ongoing diplomacy with the two nations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Good boy, way to post your source. Now it's time to make fun of the BBC... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 LOL, I admire your referential skills to previous conversations Mr.KKK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 First off, this doesn't really reveal anything. So it wasn't as easy as we thought it would be; that doesn't mean that the war was any less just. Mr Bush also told the newspaper John Kerry had not lied over his war record. Okay, I want to see how many democrats and liberals on this board actually acknowledge this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 27, 2004 First off, this doesn't really reveal anything. So it wasn't as easy as we thought it would be; that doesn't mean that the war was any less just. Mr Bush also told the newspaper John Kerry had not lied over his war record. Okay, I want to see how many democrats and liberals on this board actually acknowledge this. Will the Dems FINALLY take Cleland off his cross? -=Mike ...This is HOW many times Bush has praised Kerry's war record? How many times has Kerry apologized for questioning Bush's record? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 It took this long for the British to publish this? Man they're slow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 27, 2004 First off, this doesn't really reveal anything. So it wasn't as easy as we thought it would be; that doesn't mean that the war was any less just. Mr Bush also told the newspaper John Kerry had not lied over his war record. Okay, I want to see how many democrats and liberals on this board actually acknowledge this. We're just going to follow the conservative example... you guys haven't been acknowledging this Iraqi miscalculation for a WHILE now. How many Americans dead? But it WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BAH GAWD! What a joke the Republican Party is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Zsasz, please don't post here until you can do it without flaming conservatives in every post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Yeah. If America is ever ruled by an oppressive dictator, I definitely want other countries to remain silent and do nothing and let us go on in misery. Definitely. That's the right thing to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 27, 2004 First off, this doesn't really reveal anything. So it wasn't as easy as we thought it would be; that doesn't mean that the war was any less just. Mr Bush also told the newspaper John Kerry had not lied over his war record. Okay, I want to see how many democrats and liberals on this board actually acknowledge this. We're just going to follow the conservative example... you guys haven't been acknowledging this Iraqi miscalculation for a WHILE now. How many Americans dead? But it WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BAH GAWD! What a joke the Republican Party is. Um, yeah most conservatives in the media and most of us on this board have acknowledged the miscalculations. But that doesn't mean the war was right or wrong. Just because you miscalculate on a few math problems doesn't mean you shouldn't do your math homework altogether. Think about it. In your case though, think about it s-l-o-w-l-y. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Zsasz, please don't post here until you can do it without flaming conservatives in every post. Puh-leeese. That was no flame, Mr. Sensitive. If anything you guys need people to break up the circle jerk this folder has become. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2004 Zsasz, please don't post here until you can do it without flaming conservatives in every post. Puh-leeese. That was no flame, Mr. Sensitive. If anything you guys need people to break up the circle jerk this folder has become. No, we are just trying to stop your one-man circle jerk. Your posts hold no substance and are basically flamebaits. Either put substance in them or get out. Seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Zsasz, please don't post here until you can do it without flaming conservatives in every post. Puh-leeese. That was no flame, Mr. Sensitive. If anything you guys need people to break up the circle jerk this folder has become. No, we are just trying to stop your one-man circle jerk. Your posts hold no substance and are basically flamebaits. Either put substance in them or get out. Seriously. He's right. No Substance? Check Flamebaiting? Check Zsasz would be a perfect guest on Hannity and Colmes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Zsasz, please don't post here until you can do it without flaming conservatives in every post. Puh-leeese. That was no flame, Mr. Sensitive. If anything you guys need people to break up the circle jerk this folder has become. Look into substance. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Yeah. If America is ever ruled by an oppressive dictator, I definitely want other countries to remain silent and do nothing and let us go on in misery. Definitely. That's the right thing to do. Oh god, here we go with the dictators again. I expect to hear "rape rooms" at any moment, lay it on me.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2004 Yeah. If America is ever ruled by an oppressive dictator, I definitely want other countries to remain silent and do nothing and let us go on in misery. Definitely. That's the right thing to do. Oh god, here we go with the dictators again. I expect to hear "rape rooms" at any moment, lay it on me.... MASS GRAVES~!! BAH GOD!!! (there, threw ya a curveball ) And really Zsasz, try to make your posts more than flames. No one's opinion is going to be changed around here but if you want to join in on the discussion you need to do it withouth childish crap that gets laughed off. There's a reason certain posters here have more credibility....and then there's KKK...I really have no idea what his excuse is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 28, 2004 He's a 25-40 White american male. His opinion is just kinda "there" and people tolerate it because it's the status quo. He ain't hurting anything. Just passin' though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2004 Fuck you all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites