What did you think of "The Batman?"

[Guest CronoT]

Personally, it wasn't all that great. As many people have said, Batman: The Animated Series is probably the best Batman cartoon ever made. We'll just have to see how it goes. Also, the Joker seemed kind of "off".

[Guest SpiderFan]

I thought it was decent enough, for a first episode. Most shows take a few to find their "voice."

 

It won't be as good as B:TAS, but anyone expecting that is just setting themselves up for dissapointment.

[Guest Flyboy]

I got tired of people saying THE Batman. I fell asleep through the episode, though.

[Guest JMA]

I liked it. While I am a little annoyed that there was no Jim Gordon (at least not YET), the first episode was good. The Joker came off as sort of an "apish jester," but that really didn't bother me too much.

 

Oh, and for anyone who missed the first episode, there will be a replay of it this Friday.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

It wasn't bad. Some scenes felt like they ended a bit too abruptly, but the writers have a good handle on the characters and the Batman/Joker dialogue is very well-done.

[Guest El Satanico]

channel?

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

The WB, Toy.

 

As for my thoughts, it was alright except for how Bruce was drawn when he wasn't in the costume. Talk about an ugly character design, it seemed more like something from Jackie Chan Adventures. I actually didn't hate this version of Joker and his dialogue with Batman was actually pretty damn good, so I can't complain.

[AndrewTS 0]

I know it wouldn't stack up to Batman TAS, but how about, say, Spider-Man?

 

Also, what time was it showing, EST? I missed it completely.

[Guest CronoT]

I know it wouldn't stack up to Batman TAS, but how about, say, Spider-Man?

 

Also, what time was it showing, EST?  I missed it completely.

Which Spider-Man? The awesome 90's FOX Kids version, or the campy 60's version?

 

Also, they ruined one of the tenants of the "Batman Universe," when Joker just "appeared." Every Batman fan worth their salt knows that Jack Napier killed Bruce Wayne's parents, and that was what made Bruce don the "Cape and Cowl." Then, Batman got into a fight with Jack Napier, and in the process, Napier fell into a vat of "chemicals," which altered his appearence, and drove him insane. Thus, The Joker was born.

 

I wonder what else their going to screw up, and also how much rolling Bob Kane is going to be doing in his grave over this one.

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

Ummmm... Joker didn't kill Bruce's parents, it was just an unidentified mugger. Wasn't that from the movie plot, anyway?

[Guest JMA]

Also, they ruined one of the tenants of the "Batman Universe," when Joker just "appeared." Every Batman fan worth their salt knows that Jack Napier killed Bruce Wayne's parents, and that was what made Bruce don the "Cape and Cowl." Then, Batman got into a fight with Jack Napier, and in the process, Napier fell into a vat of "chemicals," which altered his appearence, and drove him insane. Thus, The Joker was born.

No, that's wrong. The Joker did not kill Batman's parents. You're thinking of the Tim Burton movies. A thug named Joe Chill murdered Bruce Wayne’s parents. In fact, until just recently, The Joker's true origin was unknown. There were clues to it, but nothing was confirmed.

 

For more information on The Joker go here.

 

To restate, The Joker did not kill Bruce Wayne's parents.

[Guest El Satanico]

Also, Joker's name isn't Jack Napier. The name Jack Napier was a nod to Alan Napier who played Alfred in the 60's series.

[AndrewTS 0]

I know it wouldn't stack up to Batman TAS, but how about, say, Spider-Man?

 

Also, what time was it showing, EST?  I missed it completely.

Which Spider-Man? The awesome 90's FOX Kids version, or the campy 60's version?

90's

 

Also, Joker's name isn't Jack Napier. The name Jack Napier was a nod to Alan Napier who played Alfred in the 60's series.

 

The original Animated Series, the TB original movie, and I think sometimes in the comics they use that name. So sometimes it is.

[Guest El Satanico]

TAS must've been using stuff from Burton's films, because the name Jack Napier doesn't appear in the comic does it.

[Guest JMA]

Also, Joker's name isn't Jack Napier. The name Jack Napier was a nod to Alan Napier who played Alfred in the 60's series.

The original Animated Series, the TB original movie, and I think sometimes in the comics they use that name. So sometimes it is.

Technically, the version of The Joker that appeared in the animated series had a number of different aliases before his accident. I can only think of one episode where the name "Jack Napier" was used.

 

I've heard that a storyline in the Gotham Central book recently revealed The Joker's true origin. Oddly enough, his first name WAS Jack (we don't know his last name). Personally, I think the name "Jack Spade" would be better than "Jack Napier." It has the whole playing card connection.

[AndrewTS 0]

Also, Joker's name isn't Jack Napier. The name Jack Napier was a nod to Alan Napier who played Alfred in the 60's series.

The original Animated Series, the TB original movie, and I think sometimes in the comics they use that name. So sometimes it is.

Technically, the version of The Joker that appeared in the animated series had a number of different aliases before his accident. I can only think of one episode where the name "Jack Napier" was used.

There's also "Mask of the Phantasm," although that storyline was unique to that movie and presumably the animated serious.

 

TAS must've been using stuff from Burton's films

 

Probably, although Burton himself based his vision on Miller's to an extent. TAS is just one interpretation of many, but apparently they went with Burton's background to a certain extent with Joker--but Joker didn't kill Bruce's parents in TAS continuity.

[Guest JMA]

There's also "Mask of the Phantasm," although that storyline was unique to that movie and presumably the animated serious.

As I recall, The Joker's real name wasn't given in Mask of the Phantasm. Mask of the Phantasm being a part of animated continuity is not really clear. Some people think it is, some don't.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

I've heard that a storyline in the Gotham Central book recently revealed The Joker's true origin.

 

I'm pretty sure it was Gotham Knights in the Hush follow-up story that didn't really accomplish much outside of that.

[Guest JMA]

I've heard that a storyline in the Gotham Central book recently revealed The Joker's true origin.

 

I'm pretty sure it was Gotham Knights in the Hush follow-up story that didn't really accomplish much outside of that.

You're right, it was in Gotham Knights. I haven't read the arc where The Joker's true origin is revealed yet. I do however know the gist of it.

[Guest IV:XX]

Talk about an ugly character design, it seemed more like something from Jackie Chan Adventures.

That's because the same guys drew it. It was alright. But some people need to get their facts straight on the Batman universe before they type next time.

[Guest IV:XX]

Talk about an ugly character design, it seemed more like something from Jackie Chan Adventures.

That's because the same guys drew it. It was alright. But some people need to get their facts straight on the Batman universe before they type next time.

[Guest IV:XX]

Talk about an ugly character design, it seemed more like something from Jackie Chan Adventures.

That's because the same guys drew it. It was alright. But some people need to get their facts straight on the Batman universe before they type next time.

[Renegade 0]

I know it wouldn't stack up to Batman TAS, but how about, say, Spider-Man?

Not even close to the awesomeness of the 90's spider-man.

[Guest TheLastBoyscout]

The only reason Jack Napier isn't used is because they'd have to pay royalties to the film, and Jack Nicholson if they did. Jack Napier is as good as any.

[Vyce 0]

I've heard that a storyline in the Gotham Central book recently revealed The Joker's true origin.

 

I'm pretty sure it was Gotham Knights in the Hush follow-up story that didn't really accomplish much outside of that.

You're right, it was in Gotham Knights. I haven't read the arc where The Joker's true origin is revealed yet. I do however know the gist of it.

It basically established Alan Moore's "The Killing Joke" as Joker's official origin, only with the added twist that instead of his wife dying accidentally, it was a murder made to look like an accident.

 

You know, they've tried to build up Hush as a bad-ass villain, but his motivations for hating Batman so strongly are still pretty thin if you ask me. I blame Loeb.

[Guest Ronixis]

The show is just...gay. That just it...gay.

 

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[Guest JMA]

I've heard that a storyline in the Gotham Central book recently revealed The Joker's true origin.

 

I'm pretty sure it was Gotham Knights in the Hush follow-up story that didn't really accomplish much outside of that.

You're right, it was in Gotham Knights. I haven't read the arc where The Joker's true origin is revealed yet. I do however know the gist of it.

It basically established Alan Moore's "The Killing Joke" as Joker's official origin, only with the added twist that instead of his wife dying accidentally, it was a murder made to look like an accident.

Yeah, I recall hearing that. I'll have to check out the issues soon.

[AboveAverage484 0]

It's weird having a discussion about Batman without Zasz.