Guest casba rocker Report post Posted September 24, 2004 I heard the PWI 500 came out this week, did anyone get it yet? I am interested to see what rankings certin wrestlers got. Oman Tortuga (outcast killaz) Diablo Santiago (outcast killaz) Dunn (ring crew express) Marcose (ring crew express) Tony Devito (carnage crew) HC Loc (carnage crew) if anyone could reply back with info would be much appreciated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epic Reine 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2004 Oman, Diablo, Dunn, and Marcos [wow, you can't even spell Marcos right?!], probably [and SHOULDN'T] be on the list. And if DeVito and Loc make it, they better be in the 350-500 range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2004 I could maybe see the Ring Crew Express showing up near the very end of the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Markingout Report post Posted September 24, 2004 I could maybe see the Ring Crew Express showing up near the very end of the list. I bet you they will be within 335-400, just because they compete in ROH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2004 The PWI 500 doesn't mean anything anyways. Hell, half the indy wrestlers in it send in their own information. I've seen untrained, horrid, part-time indy workers from my area ranked in previous years, and there is no way in hell there aren't hundreds of workers better than them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted September 27, 2004 No, the PWI 500 means nothing. But in the Push-Me Poll for 2004, they are currently sitting: Dunn & Marcos (133 & 134) Tony DeVito (155) Oman Tortuga & Diablo Santiago (175 & 176) H.C. Loc (189) And that's what really matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest casba rocker Report post Posted September 30, 2004 here is the PWI 500 list for 2004: 1. Chris Benoit 2. Eddie Guerrero 3. HHH 4. Kenta Kobashi 5. Randy Orton 6. Toshiaki Kawada 7. John Cena 8. AJ Styles 9. Shawn Michaels 10. Chris Jericho 11. Hiroyoshi Tenzan 12. Jeff Jarrett 13. Kane 14. El Hijo Del Santo 15. John Bradshaw Layfield 16. Shelton Benjamin 17. Chavo Guerrero Jr. 18. Ron Killings 19. Hector Garza 20. Batista 21. Eugene 22. Rey Misterio Jr. 23. Undertaker 24. Booker T 25. Christopher Daniels 26. Bob Sapp 27. Michael Shane 28. Rob Van Dam 29. Mr. Niebla 30. Ric Flair 31. Christian 32. Chris Sabin 33. Keiji Muto 34. Samoa Joe 35. Raven 36. Kurt Angle 37. Buh Buh Ray Dudley 38. L.A. Park 39. Matt Hardy 40. Charlie Hass 41. Big Show 42. Tajiri 43. D-Von Dudley 44. Chris Harris 45. Rob Conway 46. Latin Lover 47. Shinya Hashimoto 48. Bill Goldberg 49. Matt Morgon 50. Kazarian 51. Spike Dudley 52. Jeventud Guerrera 53. Jushin Liger 54. Hardcore Holly 55. Naomichi Marufuji 56. Abyss 57. Rhyno 58. Hurricane 59. Edge 60. Sylvan Grenier 61. D-Lo Brown 62. Billy Gunn 63. Dough Basham 64. James Storm 65. Kid Kash 66. Rico 67. Shocker 68. Steve Corino 69. Johnny Jeter 70. Nicho El Millionario 71. Kensuke Sasaki 72. Donovan Morgan 73. CW Anderson 74. Jamie Noble 75. Tyson Tomko 76. Jamie Noble 77. American Dragon 78. Pat Kenny 79. Michael Modest 80. Luther Reigns 81. Elix Skipper 82. Paul London 83. Spanky 84. Tiger Mask IV 85. Garrison Cade 86. Essa Rios 87. Shinjiro Ohtani 88. Mordecai 89. CM Punk 90. Genichiro Tenryu 91. Abismo Negro 92. Billy Kidman 93. Naoya Ogawa 94. Ultimo Guerrero 95. Rikishi 96. Yuji Nagata 97. Atlantis 98. Rosey 99. Val Venis 100. Masato Tanaka 101. Monty Brown 102. Perro Aguayo JR. 103. Masa Chono 104. Test 105. A-Train 106. Steven Richards 107. Heat 108. Rene Dupree 109. Satoshi Kojima 110. Kenzo Suzuki 111. Nunzio 112. Mark Jindrak 113. Jerry Lynn 114. Chuck Palumbo 115. Black Warrior 116. Low-KI 117. Johnny Stamboli 118. Kaz Hayashi 119. Chase Stevens 120. Chavo Guerrero Sr. 121. Octogon 122. Sonny Siaki 123. Johnny Swinger 124. Scotty 2 Hotty 125. Jun Akiyama 126. Andy Douglas 127. Blue Panther 128. Sonjay Duitt 129. Shannon Moore 130. Mascara Sagrada 131. Al Snow 132. Yoshihiro Takayama 133. Chris Cage 134. Ultimo Dragon 135. CIMA 136. Mark Magnus 137. Orlando Jordon 138. Sho Funaki 139. Kojo Kanemoto 140. Akio 141. Tank Toland 142. Maven 143. Mitsuharu Misawa 144. Negro Casas 145. Sakado 146. Sabu 147. BG James 148. Matt Stryker 149. Julio Dinero 150. Jon Heidendreich 151. Shark Boy 152. Nova 153. Black Tiger 154. Chad Collyer 155. Colt Cabana 156. Joey Matthews 157. Super Delfin 158. Shawn Hernandez 159. Rodney Mack 160. Johnny Nitro 161. Predator 162. Dr. Wagner JR 163. Bobby Rude 164. Konnan 165. Red 166. Carly Colon 167. Manabu Nakanishi 168. Aaron Stevens 169. Electro Shock 170. Matt Cappotelli 171. Doug Williams 172. Dragon Kid 173. Damien 666 174. Halloween 175. Glen Gilberti 176. Brent Albright 177. Taka Michinoku 178. Petey Williams 179. Ekmo Fatu 180. Shane Douglas 181. Eric Young 182. Takehiro Murahama 183. Johnny Devine 184. Heavy Metal 185. Chris Masters 186. Kevin Northcutt 187. New Jack 188. Alebrije 189. Rockey Romero 190. Scoot Andrews 191. Great Sasuke 192. Homicide 193. Bison Smith 194. Ricky Reyes 195. Joel Maximo 196. Ace Steel 197. Jose MAximo 198. BJ Whitmer 199. Jimmy Rave 200. Felino 201. Skayde 202. Jonny Strorm 203. Ikuto Hidika 204. Dan Maff 205. Tom Howard 206. David Young 207. Mike Shane 208. Todd Shane 209. Josh Daniels 210. Jason Cross 211. Osamu Nishimura 212. Rey Misterio SR 213. Tony Jones 214. Jack Evans 215. Tony Kozina 216. Lex Lovett 217. Tokyo Magnum 218. D-Boy 219. Nigel McGuinness 220. Justin Credible 221. Shane Ballard 222. Dusty Rhodes JR 223. Shannon Ballard 224. Mike Quackenbash 225. Austin Aries 226. Quiet Storm 227. Bobby Quance 228. Zach Gowen 229. Sean Casey 230. Dick Togo 231. Milano 232. Jinsei 233. M-Dogg 20 234. Blue Meanie 235. SUWA 236. John Walters 237. James TIGHE 238. Shawn Daivari 239. Fujita 240. Masada 241. Josh Prohibition 242. Danny Inferno 243. Mike Kruel 244. Onyx 245. Jado 246. Brad Bradley 247. Danny Daniels 248. Yossino 249. Teddy Hart 250. Billy Fives 251. Prince Nana 252. Gedo 253. Mike Sullivan 254. Lamont 255. Dean Jablonski 256. Chris Hamrick 257. Seth Skyfire 258. Riki Choshu 259. Jimmy Vegas 260. Chad Wicks 261. Alex Arion 262. Harry Smith 263. Frank Parker 264. Sumo Fuji 265. Cody Hawk 266. Vinny Massaro 267. Todd Sexton 268. Jimmy Jacobs 269. Fast Eddie 270. Scorpio 271. DeVito 272. Iceberg 273. Dallas 274. Joe E Legend 275. Gram Hamada 276. Alex Shelly 277. HC Loc 278. Otto Schwanz 279. Akira Taue 280. Jacey North 281. Jason Rumble 282. Gabrial 283. Slash 284. Tom Brandi 285. Rico Casanova 286. Azreal 287. Aaron Agulera 288. Kohei Sato 289. Taru 290. Ryan Boz 291. Gran Apolo 292. The Stro 293. Biggie Biggs 294. Danny Doring 295. Zebra Kid 296. Gran Naniwa 297. Tank 298. Vance Nevada 299. Slyk Wagner Brown 300. Scotty Mac 301. Gene Sinski 302. Savio Vega 303. TJ Wilson 304. Rod Strong 305. Jerrelle Clark 306. Dennis Gregory 307. Juggernat 308. Slash Venom 309. Mike Barton 310. D-Ray 3000 311. Evan Karagias 312. Alter Boy Luke 313. Tyson Dux 314. Jorge Estrada 315. Steve Mack 316. Afa JR 317. Jason The Legend 318. Boomer Payne 319. Sasiki 320. Dusty Wolfe 321. Sed Strong 322. Blade Boudroux 323. Striker 324. Buff Bagwell 325. Firestorm 326. Adan Windsor 327. Nate Webb 328. Mike Mondo 329. Johnny Heartbreaker 330. Lash LeRoux 331. Chris Candido 332. DA Beasts 333. Murder 1 334. Snuka JR 335. Naphatali 336. Rob Ekos 337. Marc Ash 338. Quinn Magnum 339. Steve Madison 340. Chris Hero 341. Mike Bell 342. Rainman 343. Arch Kinkaid 344. Frank Murdoch 345. Ray Gordy 346. Mark Bell 347. Brandon K 348. Justice 349. Devon Strom 350. Glen Osbourne 351. Sinn 352. Standing Thunder 353. Rapid Fire Maldanado 354. Arik Cannon 355. Rod Steel 356. Mike Taylor 357. Reno 358. Mahoney 359. Mana 360. Eric Preist 361. Seth Shai 362. Jack Xavier 363. Rob Begley 364. Brock Singleton 365. John Rambo 366. Robin Knightwing 367. Gillberg 368. Buff-E 369. Mace Mendoza 370. Super Hentai 371. Mike The Miz 372. Joey Knight 373. KC Thunder 374. Ace Darling 375. T Rantula 376. Delerious 377. Jap Pool Boy 378. Mac Johnson 379. Jardi Franz 380. TJ Powers 381. Nikita Allanov 382. Cheetah Masta 383. Bruse Steels 384. Vito Thomsaselli 385. Antonio Thomas 386. Caprice Colman 387. Steve DemArco 388. Johnny The Body 389. Dropkick Murphy 390. Fred Sampson 391. Rockin Rebel 392. Chasyn Rance 393. Eddie Brown 394. Johnny Ova 395. James Keenan 396. Scott Savage 397. Mr. Ooh La La 398. Matt Sydal 399. George South SR 400. Bart Blaxon 401. Shawn Donovan 402. Bouncer 403. Sal Thomaselli 404. Scottie Gash 405. Jeremy V 406. JC BAily 407. Frankie Capon 408. CJ ODoyle 409. Scott Phoenix 410. KC Blade 411. Jacob Ladder 412. J Rocc 413. Major Haredway 414. EC Negro 415. Sal Rinauro 416. Oman Tortuga 417. Eddie Atlas 418. Roman 419. Tenderfoot 420. Glenn Spectre 421. Robert Thompson 422. Billy Bax 423. Greg Spits 424. Hacker 425. Russell Simpson 426. Johnny Graham 427. Bob Evans 428. Sain 429. Guapo 430. Diablo Santago 431. JJ Perez 432. Don Basher 433. Bio Hazard 434. Rory Fox 435. Spiro 436. Lee Great 437. Drago 438. Rob McBride 439. Jeff Starr 440. TJ Dalton 441. Eric Xtasy 442. Flex Fenom 443. The Bruiser 444. Magic 445. Johnny Maxx 446. Kvin Knight 447. John Curse 448. Jeromy Sage 449. Suba 450. Robbie Ellis 451. Apollo Khan 452. Major DeBEers 453. LeGrande 454. Mozart Fontaine 455. Don Brodie 456. Slim J 457. HAllowicked 458. Ruffhouse 459. Joseph 460. Rodd Dell 461. Ram 462. Karazy K 463. Billy Black 464. Vince Vicallo 465. Bomberry 466. JT Stahr 467. Shadow Jackson 468. Gutter 469. Mega 470. Tejas 471. Eddie Kingston 472. Jack Thriller 473. El Tronado 474. Darin Childs 475. Scab 476. Xero 477. Dave Swift 478. J Busta 479. Enigma 480. Snatch Haggis 481. Tommy Suede 482. Bull Dog Raines 483. Brandon P 484. Tery Alan 485. Billy Bart 486. Lil Cholo 487. Q Lee 488. Bruiser Graham 489. Foreskain 490. Seth Delay 491. Conrad Kennedy III 492. Shirley Doe 493. Danger 494. Shane Shadows 495. Vennis DeMArco 496. Gran Akuma 497. JT Lighting 498. Mike Dell 499. Mister Zero 500. Rod Steele Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 I swear, PWI loves La Parka. He's always in the top 100. Bob Sapp was too low, Samoa Joe should have been top 20, and Teddy Hart and Chris Hero could stand to be a few places higher, but other than that, it's alright. Shirley Doe making 492 is pretty cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Miss Indy Queen Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Why is Jamie Noble listed twice? Number 74 and 76? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Why is American Dragon so low??? New Jack over Homicide??? Craziness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Lists of randomness = PWI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoRisk 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 408. CJ ODoyle Hell yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted September 30, 2004 That top 30 or so has to be the weakest I've ever seen. I didn't realize what bad shape wrestling was in until I saw that list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Ric Flair # 30. JBL #15. Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Chavo Guerrero SR was ranked. Thats funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted September 30, 2004 5. Randy Orton 7. John Cena 16. Shelton Benjamin 18. Ron Killings 21. Eugene Not saying I don't like some of these guys, or that they don't have potential. But what have they done in 2004? Not much. Sad thing is, the rest of the list is so weak, there isn't much arguement with these positions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Why is American Dragon so low??? New Jack over Homicide??? Craziness. The bigger question, is why is he 1 spot ahead (or behind) Tomko? That's just insane. Not t mention behind such notable as Bob Holly, Billy Gunn, Grenier. Flair at 30? Hurricane (who I like) at 58? D-Von at 43? This list is CRAAAAZY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Last Free Voice Report post Posted September 30, 2004 CM Punk at 89? EIGHTY NINE? Oy. That's just horrible. Fuckin hell. At least Eddie and Benoit are at 1 and 2... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoDriver 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 34. Samoa Joe 50. Kazarian 77. American Dragon 189. Rockey Romero 194. Ricky Reyes 218. D-Boy (Never heard of D-Boy... B-Boy by any chance?) 221. Shane Ballard 223. Shannon Ballard 227. Bobby Quance 379. Jardi Franz 384. Vito Thomsaselli 403. Sal Thomaselli 465. Bomberry (Hook Bomberry perhaps?) 486. Lil Cholo I know this list is just a joke but man the lack of SoCal and CZW regs. on this list really annoys me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Why isnt Mick Foley ranked? Lawrence Taylor was ranked after 1 WM match, even got a "Rookie of the Year" nomination. Foley was in Rumble 04, Mania XX match, Backlash 04 match, plus an 8 man on Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 49. Matt Morgon...what's he done this year? I mean to make to 500, let alone 50. 159. Rodney Mack...yeah, he's been productive. 150. Jon Heidendreich...him too...worked shitty matches and got pulled off tv. 104. Test...haven't seen him in 8 months or so. 85. Garrison Cade... Yeah, I know we all bitch about this every year, but there's good reason. and why is it that they can't break down a tag team enough to list them more then a couple of spots apart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 And did I miss something...or are the Briscoe Brothers not listed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Eugene over a ton of people, namely Samoe Joe, CM Punk and American Dragon? This list gets worse every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beast 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Matt Morgan is high because he's been OVW Champ and PWI treats OVW almost like a regular fed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Why isnt Mick Foley ranked? Lawrence Taylor was ranked after 1 WM match, even got a "Rookie of the Year" nomination. Foley was in Rumble 04, Mania XX match, Backlash 04 match, plus an 8 man on Raw. Mick Foley didn't win a single match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Why isnt Mick Foley ranked? Lawrence Taylor was ranked after 1 WM match, even got a "Rookie of the Year" nomination. Foley was in Rumble 04, Mania XX match, Backlash 04 match, plus an 8 man on Raw. Mick Foley didn't win a single match. So you're saying that if he won one match then he should be ranked and win "Comeback of the Year"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Foley DID win a match. He teamed with Shelton Benjamin, Shawn Michaels, & Chris Benoit to defeat Evolution prior to Backlash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Foley DID win a match. He teamed with Shelton Benjamin, Shawn Michaels, & Chris Benoit to defeat Evolution prior to Backlash. He should be ranked and win "Comeback of the Year" then..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARTYEWR 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Why isnt Mick Foley ranked? Lawrence Taylor was ranked after 1 WM match, even got a "Rookie of the Year" nomination. Foley was in Rumble 04, Mania XX match, Backlash 04 match, plus an 8 man on Raw. Mick Foley didn't win a single match. Which begs the question: Why is Al Snow on the list? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Snow keeps busy in the indies...but the list is f*cked anyway, so don't look too into it. That's like asking why Goldberg made the list but not Brock. They quit on the same night, AND Brock had a better year...yet Goldie made top 50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites