Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted September 28, 2004 Can anyone name me one professional boxer or football player who's gone through the same transformation? James Toney - middleweight champ 10-15 years ago, heavyweight contender now. Herschel Walker gained 20-25 lbs his last two years in the NFL to play fullback. I'm sure there are hundreds more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2004 and finally.. the culmination, in 2000 The way the veins are popping out of his arms like that can be a telltale sign of steroid use. Not always, but sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2004 and finally.. the culmination, in 2000 The way the veins are popping out of his arms like that can be a telltale sign of steroid use. Not always, but sometimes. My veins look like that at the end of a good workout, and I'm sure as hell not on the juice. For anyone using Bonds' 73 HR season to justify believing he must have used roids (when almost all of his other seasons are in the high 30s - high 40s range): did Brady Anderson use steroids to hit 50 HRs when he was a 25 HR hitter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2004 For anyone using Bonds' 73 HR season to justify believing he must have used roids (when almost all of his other seasons are in the high 30s - high 40s range): did Brady Anderson use steroids to hit 50 HRs when he was a 25 HR hitter? Didn't Jim Palmer say he did not too long ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted September 28, 2004 The next thing someone is going to tell me is that Scott Steiner used steroids! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 For anyone using Bonds' 73 HR season to justify believing he must have used roids (when almost all of his other seasons are in the high 30s - high 40s range): did Brady Anderson use steroids to hit 50 HRs when he was a 25 HR hitter? Didn't Jim Palmer say he did not too long ago? Yup. Palmer's accusations were more baseless than the ones against Bonds. Palmer's sole evidence was that Anderson hit 50 home runs one year, and never again came close. So obviously Anderson must have roided up to reach that total. It fails to answer second questions. One, why didn't Brady's OBP flucuate with his slugging percentage? Second, if the steroids were that potent, why did he stop taking them? In any case, Palmer had no evidence whatsoever beyond the stat line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2004 The argument about the veins is absurd. I work out about once every took weeks and I weigh maybe 165 and veins come out of my arms like that after a good workout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted September 29, 2004 I'm on neither side of the fence, so I'll add in that even after a long workout, my arms don't have veins bulging out like that. It is possible though that it's just genetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whitemilesdavis Report post Posted September 29, 2004 I've got a vein that sticks out on the left side of my forehead. Once again, some people just have veins, not at all an indicator of steroids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positively Kanyon 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 I've got a vein that sticks out on the left side of my forehead. Is that like Van Damme's little "bump" on his forehead that pops out when he gets fired up, during a fight scene? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoes Head Report post Posted October 2, 2004 Did the results come back yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 2, 2004 I have the vein problem in my arms, and I don't touch any supplements at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brush with Greatness 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 Wow, after looking at those pictures, Bonds could have easily made those gains from year to year with legal supplements such as Protein, Glutamine and Creatine among others. On top of that I'm sure he doesn't skimp on paying a personal trainer/sports nutrionist, so he's got the best in those departments as well. No offence to the guys (here and in the media) that constantly rip on Bonds, but it is blatantly obvious that you/they know very little about developing muscle mass. Don't know if anyone here follows MMA, but Randy Couture is older than Bonds and is considered one of (if not the best) light heavyweight in the world. This is a guy who was once considered washed up as a heavyweight a few years ago but has trimmed down and is in phenomenal shape (at the age of 40). And I can say with 99.9% certainty that Couture is clean, so why can't Bond's be the baseball equivalent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2004 If Houston wins today, Bonds will have a nice clear October schedule for another test if needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
