James Dobson makes speech, falls off stage

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=13949&sd=10/06/04

 

Dobson speaks against gay marriage, falls off stage

Thousands attended a rally in Sioux City, Iowa, to hear Christian psychologist James Dobson condemn gay marriage. During the Take a Stand for Marriage rally on Sunday, Dobson--an author, radio host, and founder of the national group Focus on the Family--talked about same-sex marriage and judicial activism. He said that 70% of voters have shown at the polls that they don't want the government to allow same-sex marriages.

 

"Now judges are telling us they want to redefine the definition of marriage. We say, not in our lifetime," Dobson told the crowd. The Evangelical Christian said the attack on marriage under way in the United States has prompted him to tour the nation for a variety of speaking engagements. Dobson added he had not delivered a speech in Iowa since 1975.

 

After his speech, Dobson fell off the six-foot-high stage and had to have five stitches for a gash above his right ankle. Paul Hetrick, vice president of media relations for Focus on Family, said Dobson was treated at the event site and later examined at Mercy Medical Center. "It could have been a lot worse, and we are regarding it as a real blessing," Hetrick said. Hetrick said Dobson's vision was impaired by spotlights focused on him during his speech and that he was not able to see where two platforms met when he walked across the dark stage.

 

Organizers said Dobson was drawn to Iowa by the November ruling of Iowa district judge Jeffrey Neary terminating the civil union of a lesbian Sioux City couple joined in Vermont. The Iowa Family Policy Center, sponsor of the rally, is the group whose legal arm appealed Neary's dissolution decree. Dobson said the court system is determined to allow same-sex marriages, led by activist judges who are creating laws rather than interpreting them. He encouraged the audience to voice their opinions by voting and "maybe find some of these people another line of work."

 

"I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you've got one of them right here, Judge Jeffrey Neary," Dobson said at the rally.

 

The Judicial Accountability Group, a political action committee formed in September to try to unseat Neary, had information tables at the event entrance and distributed printed materials asking residents to vote against retaining Neary. Neary told The Sioux City Journal that he is not an activist judge and is not out to change the definition of marriage. He said he was simply resolving a dispute between two parties. Dobson "is dead wrong if he thinks I favor same-sex marriages or same-sex unions. The truth of the matter is, I don't. I am just as firm a believer as he is in the sanctity of traditional marriage," Neary said.

 

Outside the event, about 18 protesters gathered. "We are letting people know in Siouxland that not everyone agrees with what is being preached inside the events center today. We are letting people know we believe in marriage equality and equal rights for every American," Jason Morgan, 34, of Sioux City, said as he waved a rainbow flag. Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, also spoke at the event.

 

It's a sign James.. it's a sign..

 

or he tried to mosh for the Lord

[2GOLD 0]

He's hardcore for JESUS!

 

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Glad he didn't die; Hell is going to be a bitch for him someday. Not now though, later. No one should die like that. Seriously, I'm glad he is ok and that he wasn't seriously hurt.

 

He should die like every overly religious bible misinterpeting psycho should: in his bed, covered with BBQ sauce, wearing a Gimp mask and an underaged Asian male weaping in the corner.

 

As they all truly dream of.

[Guest CronoT]

He's hardcore for JESUS!

 

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Glad he didn't die; Hell is going to be a bitch for him someday. Not now though, later. No one should die like that. Seriously, I'm glad he is ok and that he wasn't seriously hurt.

 

He should die like every overly religious bible misinterpeting psycho should: in his bed, covered with BBQ sauce, wearing a Gimp mask and an underaged Asian male weaping in the corner.

 

As they all truly dream of.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Take a Stand for Marriage rally

 

(...) Dobson fell off the six-foot-high stage and had to have five stitches for a gash above his right ankle.

I guess he won't be standing for marriage this week.

[Guest SP-1]

He's hardcore for JESUS!

 

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Glad he didn't die; Hell is going to be a bitch for him someday. Not now though, later. No one should die like that. Seriously, I'm glad he is ok and that he wasn't seriously hurt.

 

He should die like every overly religious bible misinterpeting psycho should: in his bed, covered with BBQ sauce, wearing a Gimp mask and an underaged Asian male weaping in the corner.

 

As they all truly dream of.

I'm assuming you can enlighten us all on proper hermeneutical analysis, yes?

[2GOLD 0]

He's hardcore for JESUS!

 

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Glad he didn't die; Hell is going to be a bitch for him someday. Not now though, later. No one should die like that. Seriously, I'm glad he is ok and that he wasn't seriously hurt.

 

He should die like every overly religious bible misinterpeting psycho should: in his bed, covered with BBQ sauce, wearing a Gimp mask and an underaged Asian male weaping in the corner.

 

As they all truly dream of.

I'm assuming you can enlighten us all on proper hermeneutical analysis, yes?

 

Not you. You read the bible just fine.

He doesn't.

 

Not all religious people should die like that. Just the ones who incorrectly read the bible. Damn.

[Guest SP-1]

He's hardcore for JESUS!

 

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Glad he didn't die; Hell is going to be a bitch for him someday. Not now though, later. No one should die like that. Seriously, I'm glad he is ok and that he wasn't seriously hurt.

 

He should die like every overly religious bible misinterpeting psycho should: in his bed, covered with BBQ sauce, wearing a Gimp mask and an underaged Asian male weaping in the corner.

 

As they all truly dream of.

I'm assuming you can enlighten us all on proper hermeneutical analysis, yes?

 

Not you. You read the bible just fine.

He doesn't.

 

Not all religious people should die like that. Just the ones who incorrectly read the bible. Damn.

Yet I'm also of the mindset that homosexuality is wrong.

 

I'm not out violently attacking people, bombing apartments, or any of that other extremist crap.

 

But I agree that it's wrong. Because it's biblically clear. So I suppose by CE terms, that lumps me in with Dobson, yes?

[Guest CronoT]

Not you. You read the bible just fine.

He doesn't.

 

Not all religious people should die like that. Just the ones who incorrectly read the bible. Damn.

Such as:

Pat Robertson

Jerry Falwell

Ralph Reed

George W. Bush

John Ashcroft

[2GOLD 0]

No, you aren't crazy.

I've seen some of Dobson's other delightful work. He's crazy.

 

He's slightly less crazy than Falwell. And I sure as hell wouldn't include you with Falwell.

[Guest SP-1]

No, you aren't crazy.

I've seen some of Dobson's other delightful work. He's crazy.

 

He's slightly less crazy than Falwell. And I sure as hell wouldn't include you with Falwell.

Fair enough.

[2GOLD 0]

Not you. You read the bible just fine.

He doesn't.

 

Not all religious people should die like that. Just the ones who incorrectly read the bible. Damn.

Such as:

Pat Robertson

Jerry Falwell

Ralph Reed

George W. Bush

John Ashcroft

 

And James Dobson.

 

Yeah, that's the elite.

Oh and Carmen...that crazy son of a b*tch.

 

Not sure about G.W though, he doesn't seem to hate civil unions. I can't include him with the A team of nutty.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

^^ Dubya makes the A-list for wanting to act out Revelations with his foreign policy.

 

Such as:

Pat Robertson

Jerry Falwell

Ralph Reed

George W. Bush

John Ashcroft

Adding Alan Keyes and Pat Buchanan to that list.

[2GOLD 0]

^^ Dubya makes the A-list for wanting to act out Revelations with his foreign policy.

 

Such as:

Pat Robertson

Jerry Falwell

Ralph Reed

George W. Bush

John Ashcroft

Adding Alan Keyes and Pat Buchanan to that list.

 

Good point, he's on.

 

Alan Keyes though...come on.

That crazy bastard is on his own list.

 

Keyes says things that makes Falwell go, "Damn, that ain't right."

[Guest CronoT]

^^ Dubya makes the A-list for wanting to act out Revelations with his foreign policy.

 

Such as:

Pat Robertson

Jerry Falwell

Ralph Reed

George W. Bush

John Ashcroft

Adding Alan Keyes and Pat Buchanan to that list.

I think Buchanan is more of the Neo-Nazi type than the Klu Klux Klan type.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Alan Keyes though...come on.

That crazy bastard is on his own list.

 

Keyes says things that makes Falwell go, "Damn, that ain't right."

Keyes uses racist imagery to get people to think his own way. It's kind of like Al Sharpton.

 

Buchanan is actually worse, IMO, for actually being racist. Against Jews, even, which is either a support of Nazisim or misinterpreting the Bible even more than everyone else on that list did.

[Guest SP-1]

Alan Keyes though...come on.

That crazy bastard is on his own list.

 

Keyes says things that makes Falwell go, "Damn, that ain't right."

Keyes uses racist imagery to get people to think his own way. It's kind of like Al Sharpton.

 

Buchanan is actually worse, IMO, for actually being racist. Against Jews, even, which is either a support of Nazisim or misinterpreting the Bible even more than everyone else on that list did.

Supposed "Christians" who hate Jews need to be strapped to a chair and forced through a Hermeneutics class with their eyelids taped open.

[2GOLD 0]

Alan Keyes though...come on.

That crazy bastard is on his own list.

 

Keyes says things that makes Falwell go, "Damn, that ain't right."

Keyes uses racist imagery to get people to think his own way. It's kind of like Al Sharpton.

 

Buchanan is actually worse, IMO, for actually being racist. Against Jews, even, which is either a support of Nazisim or misinterpreting the Bible even more than everyone else on that list did.

Supposed "Christians" who hate Jews need to be strapped to a chair and forced through a Hermeneutics class with their eyelids taped open.

 

In other words, Pat makes the A-team

[EricMM 0]

SP-1 isn't crazy, just wrong.

 

That's all.

[Guest SP-1]

SP-1 isn't crazy, just wrong.

 

That's all.

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Eric, attempt to post beyond your ignorance or dont' post at all.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Question: Being a member of some stature in the Conservative Brigade, am I supposed to be defending this guy or something (Dobson, not SP...)?

[Guest SP-1]

Question: Being a member of some stature in the Conservative Brigade, am I supposed to be defending this guy or something (Dobson, not SP...)?

No. Conservative doesn't equal Christian. Dobson's motivations come completely from religious reasons, not from political insofar as I can tell.

[EricMM 0]

SP you're an alright guy, and I'm not trying to flamebait, I just can't let you represent Christianity on this board!

[Guest SP-1]

SP you're an alright guy, and I'm not trying to flamebait, I just can't let you represent Christianity on this board!

Considering I represent Christianity rooted in God's Word and correct biblical analysis, you'll just have to deal with it, Eric. Liberal interpretation of the Bible is incorrect. It doesn't say whatever you want it to say. It says what it says and it works in a specific way.

 

You don't have to like it.

 

You do, however, have to deal with it.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Alan Keyes though...come on.

That crazy bastard is on his own list.

 

Keyes says things that makes Falwell go, "Damn, that ain't right."

Keyes uses racist imagery to get people to think his own way. It's kind of like Al Sharpton.

 

Buchanan is actually worse, IMO, for actually being racist. Against Jews, even, which is either a support of Nazisim or misinterpreting the Bible even more than everyone else on that list did.

Exc

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

SP you're an alright guy, and I'm not trying to flamebait, I just can't let you represent Christianity on this board!

Well who in the hell would -- Dr. Tom?...

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Hey, Christian fight..

 

To put this into perspective, Eric wants you representing Christianity in the same way an atheist wants Chaosrage representing atheism.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Not sure if you were talking to me, AoO, but if you were I don't know Chaosrage that well so that went over my head.

 

And I am a confirmed Lutheran, but I know Jesus wouldn't want me representing him in anything...

[Guest SP-1]

Hey, Christian fight..

 

To put this into perspective, Eric wants you representing Christianity in the same way an atheist wants Chaosrage representing atheism.

Ouch, AoO. That's harsh. I at least know what I'm talking about when I use scripture in a discussion.

[Dr. Tom 0]

SP you're an alright guy, and I'm not trying to flamebait, I just can't let you represent Christianity on this board!

Well who in the hell would -- Dr. Tom?...

Considering I'm a devout atheist, I doubt it.

 

Actually, I remember defending Christianity here at least once. It made me feel dirty afterwards.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Hey, Christian fight..

 

To put this into perspective, Eric wants you representing Christianity in the same way an atheist wants Chaosrage representing atheism.

Ouch, AoO. That's harsh. I at least know what I'm talking about when I use scripture in a discussion.

I was leaning more towards him being a delusional nutbar.

 

Nothing too personal of course, but I don't think I'd want to be represented by someone who has claimed, in plain english, to have been assailed by demons that were only defeated by calling on the power of heaven.

 

Don't get me wrong, I've hallucinated many a time myself...