Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 Cena stopped actively trying almost a year ago. Thats why he is so bad? Stop trying would be an excuse if he didn't suck in the first place.
Brett Favre Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He's had good matches with Benoit, Eddie, Angle, and Taker. You act like he's the second coming of Nathan Jones.
Guest Anglesault Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 Cena stopped actively trying almost a year ago. Thats why he is so bad? Stop trying would be an excuse if he didn't suck in the first place. He always sucked, but there was a real period where it looked like he was trying to improve.
Guest Phenom Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 I fucking hate Cena. Anyone is better than that goofball. Heel Cena, I could stand. But now, all he does is pander to the crowd and make gay/poop jokes. Good for Junior High, not for buisness, let alone fixed buisness. This message brought to you by the Triple C Lobby
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He's had good matches with Benoit, Eddie, Angle, and Taker. You act like he's the second coming of Nathan Jones. ::looks at posters name:: ::laughs:: ::keeps walking::
Brett Favre Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He's had good matches with Benoit, Eddie, Angle, and Taker. You act like he's the second coming of Nathan Jones. ::looks at posters name:: ::laughs:: ::keeps walking:: ::Looks at Poster's Name:: ::Understands:: ::Walks Away::
Guest Anglesault Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He really kind of did.
Brett Favre Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He really kind of did. Personally, I disagree. To me suck would be in the levels of Tomko and Kenzo. He's definitely better than that.
Guest Anglesault Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He really kind of did. Personally, I disagree. To me suck would be in the levels of Tomko and Kenzo. He's definitely better than that. There are different levels of suck. Cena was and is one of them. He's not Nathan Jones, but I'd say Bradshaw definitely works a better and smarter match now.
Brett Favre Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He really kind of did. Personally, I disagree. To me suck would be in the levels of Tomko and Kenzo. He's definitely better than that. There are different levels of suck. Cena was and is one of them. He's not Nathan Jones, but I'd say Bradshaw definitely works a better and smarter match now. Of course he works a better and smarter match than Cena now. I work a better and smarter match than Cena now. I was talking about earlier in his career when he had ***+ matches with Angle, Taker, and Benoit. He also had an entertaining Parking Lot Brawl with Eddie.
Guest M. Harry Smilac Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He really kind of did. Personally, I disagree. To me suck would be in the levels of Tomko and Kenzo. He's definitely better than that. There are different levels of suck. Cena was and is one of them. He's not Nathan Jones, but I'd say Bradshaw definitely works a better and smarter match now. Of course he works a better and smarter match than Cena now. I work a better and smarter match than Cena now. I was talking about earlier in his career when he had ***+ matches with Angle, Taker, and Benoit. He also had an entertaining Parking Lot Brawl with Eddie. Save your breath.It's currently the cool thing to hate Cena and Anglesault has never liked him because he uses wigger terms like "You can't see me"
Lord of The Curry Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 There's different levels of suck....... Tomko, Kenzo etc. - Sucks and will likely never get better. Cena- Sucks, could be better but for some reason isn't. The latter I find much worse then the former.
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 He didn't suck in the first place. He really kind of did. Personally, I disagree. To me suck would be in the levels of Tomko and Kenzo. He's definitely better than that. He's not at all. In fact, Kenzo may be limited but at least he looks normal in the ring. He doesn't look like an uncordinated putz like Cena. Cena may be as bad as Tomko, but Kenzo is better than Cena.
haVoc Posted October 8, 2004 Report Posted October 8, 2004 That's probably why Cena used the Prototype gimmick. He was more ripped then, but at least the gimmick covered up how stiff and awkward looking he was in the ring. Pretty much, he could work like a hoss to cover up his weakness in the ring.
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 That's probably why Cena used the Prototype gimmick. He was more ripped then, but at least the gimmick covered up how stiff and awkward looking he was in the ring. Pretty much, he could work like a hoss to cover up his weakness in the ring. EXACTLY! But he's not a hoss. A hoss at least looks strong and their offensive looks believable because of their size, but Cena just looks like a loser. Dang, he isn't very good. Anyone who says differently doesn't know wrestling.
Guest Phenom Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 That's probably why Cena used the Prototype gimmick. He was more ripped then, but at least the gimmick covered up how stiff and awkward looking he was in the ring. Pretty much, he could work like a hoss to cover up his weakness in the ring. EXACTLY! But he's not a hoss. A hoss at least looks strong and their offensive looks believable because of their size, but Cena just looks like a loser. Dang, he isn't very good. Anyone who says differently doesn't know wrestling. Then every mark knows no wrestling.
Guest jephnaz Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 Quick question. Quite a few people on this board think Cena should win the title at WM. Why? I happen to agree with the original poster. He just flat out bores me. I know he's over, but how can people think he deserves to main event WM and win the title the way he's going now?
The Niggardly King Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 Quick question. Quite a few people on this board think Cena should win the title at WM. Why? I happen to agree with the original poster. He just flat out bores me. I know he's over, but how can people think he deserves to main event WM and win the title the way he's going now? Sure, he sucks, but he is over. For all we know, he might bring in new fans if he was champ and the show was focused around him. And if it works...you should run with it. Who knows what Cena can do when given the chance. He might look awkward in his movements in the ring, but he's an excellent seller like RRR said.
Brett Favre Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 That's probably why Cena used the Prototype gimmick. He was more ripped then, but at least the gimmick covered up how stiff and awkward looking he was in the ring. Pretty much, he could work like a hoss to cover up his weakness in the ring. EXACTLY! But he's not a hoss. A hoss at least looks strong and their offensive looks believable because of their size, but Cena just looks like a loser. Dang, he isn't very good. Anyone who says differently doesn't know wrestling. I agree with you that he's sucking ass lately, and is just going through the motions to play to the crowd, but that still doesn't mean he's a horrible wrestler like you say he is. He's had good matches, he's just focusing way too much on his character and the crowd right now, instead of improving his in ring work. Cena is not a horrible worker, don't agree.
Guest Anglesault Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I agree with you that he's sucking ass lately, and is just going through the motions to play to the crowd, Lately? Try a solid year. he's just focusing way too much on his character Which has taken a steady nosedive over the past year as well. He's not working hard on EITHER aspect. He's been mailing it in and riding on the success of the initial character since he turned.
Brett Favre Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I agree with you that he's sucking ass lately, and is just going through the motions to play to the crowd, Lately? Try a solid year. he's just focusing way too much on his character Which has taken a steady nosedive over the past year as well. He's not working hard on EITHER aspect. He's been mailing it in and riding on the success of the initial character since he turned. Exactly, since the WWE didn't show signs of doing anything with him anyway. He's sorta pulling an RVD. Still doesn't mean he's a horrible worker though, he really isn't.
Guest Anglesault Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I agree with you that he's sucking ass lately, and is just going through the motions to play to the crowd, Lately? Try a solid year. he's just focusing way too much on his character Which has taken a steady nosedive over the past year as well. He's not working hard on EITHER aspect. He's been mailing it in and riding on the success of the initial character since he turned. Exactly, since the WWE didn't show signs of doing anything with him anyway. When he first turned they certainly were. He IMMEDIATELY went into cruise control.
Brett Favre Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I agree with you that he's sucking ass lately, and is just going through the motions to play to the crowd, Lately? Try a solid year. he's just focusing way too much on his character Which has taken a steady nosedive over the past year as well. He's not working hard on EITHER aspect. He's been mailing it in and riding on the success of the initial character since he turned. Exactly, since the WWE didn't show signs of doing anything with him anyway. When he first turned they certainly were. He IMMEDIATELY went into cruise control. They even screwed up the turn by doing it too soon. Plus, when does the WWE even care how great a wrestler's in ring work is, especially since he's so over? If they were to do anything, he would have already been champ, sort of like Orton was recently.
Guest Anglesault Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 They even screwed up the turn by doing it too soon. . I think they picked the correct time. Plus, when does the WWE even care how great a wrestler's in ring work is, especially since he's so over? I think they do care about the effort a guy shows. Doesn't mean he's gonna be great, but if he's genuinely trying out there and is very over, he'll get the push. Cena turned face, saw his meal ticket and stopped even showing an effort.
Brett Favre Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I'm pretty sure the WWE had something to do with him going happy go lucky. You always hear Vince wanting his faces happy and playing to the fans. Like when Lesnar won the belt and turned face.
RavishingRickRudo Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I agree. His kicks suck. 99% of the WWE's roster can't throw a punch, but Cena has Lita-level kicks.
Guest Phenom Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I agree. His kicks suck. 99% of the WWE's roster can't throw a punch, but Cena has Lita-level kicks. SNITSKY TIME! I'd like to see him perform castration on Cena. Thusly, the testicles come off, and the ratings rise!
Black Lushus Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 Then every mark knows no wrestling. Sounds like a pretty accurate statement to me...I've gotten into huge verbal arguements at live events with marks who believe every single kayfabed deal out there...marks who prefer the Hoss over the worker...so yes, marks don't know wrestling...
Lil' Bitch Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I'll take Cena as WWE Champion over Bradshaw any day of the week. By the way, am I the only one who enjoyed the Cena / Dupree feud this year? I also enjoyed the Booker / Cena feud until CCC crap happened.
Black Lushus Posted October 9, 2004 Report Posted October 9, 2004 I said once, I'll say again: "John Cena, you're not cool" was ten times more entertaining than "Cole when you were born the doctor slapped yo mamma!"
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