LivingLegendGaryColeman 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Both teams have high payroll, yes, but it seems like there is more of a homegrown and team sense in Boston, whereas New York just becomes a conglomoration of the Super Powers, especially when they get Randy Johnson next year, among the other pickups I am sure they will get win or lose. Varitek - Seattle Mariners Millar - Florida Marlins Bellhorn - Oakland Athletics (surprise, surprise) Cabrera - Montreal Expos Mueller - San Francisco Giants Ramirez - Cleveland Indians Damon - Kansas City Royals Nixon - Boston Red Sox Ortiz - Seattle Mariners (signed as a free agent in 1992) Schilling - Boston Red Sox (originally drafted by Boston) Pedro - Los Angeles Dodgers Arroyo - Pittsburgh Pirates Timlin - Toronto Blue Jays Foulke - San Francisco Giants I know these guys all came from other teams, I guess I just worded it funny. My point is, who knew of Varitek as a Mariner? Who knew of Millar as a Marlin or Mueller as a Giant? Very few unless you followed the team. Take a look at the Yankees team and you knew who mostly everyone was from their pre-Yankee career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 There has to be some sort of "b" involved in The failure of the Sox for Game 7. That means Bellhorn "Buckners" it. Bottom 9th, 2 out. Jeter on 3rd, 5-4 Game. A-Rod hits a weak chopper, Bellhorn scoops it and loses the grip. Jeter scores. Sheffield Homers. Yankees Win. Bellhorn never plays in Boston again. Bubba Crosby? Eh. I'm pretty damn nervous here. I was ultra pissed when they lost those 2 straight games at Boston, and yesterday was just another lost opportunity. I really don't know how i'm going to watch this tonight. It's like last year, and I hope the result is the same as last year, where I was shaking nervously watching the game. It's that big. I'm not going to make any predictions, and if the Sox win, good for them. I won't be angry at them, but I do know i'd probably be sad as fuck. But hopefully the Brown gets some good innings in, and they get to Lowe or Wakefield early. This game's going to be huge. BTW, A-Rod and Shef have to step it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Schilling was just on the Jim Rome show talking about the "day after" with his ankle, and he verbally blasted A-Rod for his batting the ball out of Arroyo's hand, calling him "classless and bush league" and saying "You'd never ever see Jeter do that" Beautiful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Schilling was just on the Jim Rome show talking about the "day after" with his ankle, and he verbally blasted A-Rod for his batting the ball out of Arroyo's hand, calling him "classless and bush league" and saying "You'd never ever see Jeter do that" Beautiful Whatever. If someone like Bill Mueller or Tim Wakefield had said that, i'd actually mean something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 There has to be some sort of "b" involved in The failure of the Sox for Game 7. That means Bellhorn "Buckners" it. Bottom 9th, 2 out. Jeter on 3rd, 5-4 Game. A-Rod hits a weak chopper, Bellhorn scoops it and loses the grip. Jeter scores. Sheffield Homers. Yankees Win. Bellhorn never plays in Boston again. Bubba Crosby? Eh. I'm pretty damn nervous here. I was ultra pissed when they lost those 2 straight games at Boston, and yesterday was just another lost opportunity. I really don't know how i'm going to watch this tonight. It's like last year, and I hope the result is the same as last year, where I was shaking nervously watching the game. It's that big. I'm not going to make any predictions, and if the Sox win, good for them. I won't be angry at them, but I do know i'd probably be sad as fuck. But hopefully the Brown gets some good innings in, and they get to Lowe or Wakefield early. This game's going to be huge. BTW, A-Rod and Shef have to step it up. Hopefully Sheff can actually get it out of the infield tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 He seriously needs to stop trying to hit everything out of the state. They need to rack up more base hits, especially with, I dunno, runners on? Sound like Tim McCarver here, but it's true. Yesterday's 8th inning should have been the inning in which they would take the lead. A-Rod and Sheff screwed that up. I don't know what to think. I'm probably taking this more seriously than anyone else (maybe even Anglesault) although I just don't post as much when a game that important is going on. Baseball is too much. What a great sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 And they need to SMASH Lowe. I want him burried, and killed, and out of the game in the first. Not 6th or 7th, FIRST. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 If it were only that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Am I the only Yankee fan who doesn't trust Brown at all? I trust Vazuez more than him right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I really don't know. Mussina would have been great, but since we now play like 3 games in one day, he'll probably be available out of the bullpen if needed. Although doubtful. He's like on 2 days rest? El Duque might even be available. Vazquez maybe. The thing is, Javier threw 100 pitches, and Brown had an early exit. If Torre hadn't used Sturtze, he wouldn't have been so bad. And Loaiza pitched great in his last outing. This is gutwrenching, and the game hasn't even started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Hmmm what are the chances of my Business Comm teacher letting me out early to watch the game tonight? Ugh...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Why wouldn't Javy be avaliable? I he started, and if he pitches, it'll be out of the bullpen, he'll be pitching on 4 days rest. El Duque was up in the bullpen in the 8th last night, so he'll be avaliable too. Moose will probably be available. And I don't want Gordon in the 8th with a lead. Let Moose be our set up man tonight. I want Mo pitching ONE inning tonight. This two inning save thing isn't working for him anymore. The sucky thing about a game 7 is is doibtful for one team to win in a blowout. Pitchers are hooked so easily, its impossible to get on anybody for a lot of runs. And I just don't see anyway that Brown is getting outs tonight. I just can't picture it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 It's Mickey Mantle's birthday today too. Can you IMAGINE what a Yankee loss would be like? Blowing a 3-0 series lead, to the Red Sox, and losing Game 7 ON Mickey Mantle's birthday as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 OMFG....I just woke up, looked at this thread. LOWE is pitching tonight? Well Red Sox fans, it's been a fun series and all, but hey, a curse is a curse.....right!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Both teams have high payroll, yes, but it seems like there is more of a homegrown and team sense in Boston, whereas New York just becomes a conglomoration of the Super Powers, especially when they get Randy Johnson next year, among the other pickups I am sure they will get win or lose. Varitek - Seattle Mariners Millar - Florida Marlins Bellhorn - Oakland Athletics (surprise, surprise) Cabrera - Montreal Expos Mueller - San Francisco Giants Ramirez - Cleveland Indians Damon - Kansas City Royals Nixon - Boston Red Sox Ortiz - Seattle Mariners (signed as a free agent in 1992) Schilling - Boston Red Sox (originally drafted by Boston) Pedro - Los Angeles Dodgers Arroyo - Pittsburgh Pirates Timlin - Toronto Blue Jays Foulke - San Francisco Giants you forgot Derek Lowe as a Mariner. Of course people who ranted and raved about how dumb the M's were to trade Lowe during his hot streak forget that he wasn't exactly great shakes when he was there (Lowe 'and outside'). Varitek agreed, Lowe I could give two flops about. And I always was under the impression that Ortiz went for Roberto Kelly, I've also heard that it was for Dave Hollins. Either trade sucked in all honesty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I honestly don't understand why the Sox are having Lowe start Game 7 instead of Wakefield. For the most part, Wakefield has been pretty decent at stifling the Yankees - why would Francona decide to pitch Lowe instead? I really hope Francona knows something that we don't. I really don't like this situation at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I actually remember Millar as a Marlin a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I think the reason they may not be starting Wakefield is that they don't want to take Varitek out of the line-up and are afraid that he can't catch the knuckleball (which he showed in game 5). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Well, it's not like Varitek has really proven his worth in this series anyway. He almost blew the game for the Sox in Game 5 with his lackluster catching with Wakefield - and he pretty much hasn't hit worth a damn in the entire series. I think the Sox should try to take a risk tonight: Pitch Wakefield and put Mirabelli on catcher. Then keep Varitek on reserve just in case. You could either use him as a pinch hitter later on, or replace Mirabelli with Vairtek once they take Wakefield out of the game. Despite the fact that Varitek may catch much better with Lowe than Wakefield, I honestly feel Wakefield would be a much stronger pitcher tonight against the Yanks than Lowe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted October 20, 2004 i'm sure we'll see Lowe and Wakefield. Even if Lowe doesn't get crushed, he'll be out by the 5th. He just threw 90 pitches on Sunday. (same with Vasquez if he plays) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Lowe will be out by the end of the third, whether they touch him up or not. Wakefield will probably go another 3. It's going to be one of those games where everyone pitches for a bit, not letting anyone get too tired. I wouldn't be surprised to see seven or eight pitchers for Boston tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted October 20, 2004 er, make that Duque, not Vasquez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Well it is kind of sad that the only joy you get out of baseball is seeing the Yankees win. I'm not going to enjoy seeing them lose. I think he just meant it's sad that you can't find any joy in the game other than the Yankees winning. As in, you can't enjoy a good game between two good teams, even if you don't care one way or the other about either of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Lowe will win tonight...I predict 3-2 or something close like that. It just seems like it's going to happen that way. However, I'd like to see another extra innings game and have a "B" (Bellhorn?) fuck up something to cost the game for his team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 God God GOD, please fastforward this to 11:30, so I can see if it's Ol' Blue Eyes or Liza crooning on the Stadium's PA... please let it be Liza. Just this once, Frank won't mind. I have a feeling I will throw up a few times during tonight's game... it's two hours away and I'm already jittery. Someone... hold me. Boston area posters- where are you watching the game? Home? Bar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I'm not Boston area, but I'll be watching in a hotel in Winter Haven, FL. Sure are a lot of Yankee fans down here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Here's my prediction Sox Pitcher Count (5)- Lowe, Wakefield, Pedro, Myers and Foulke Yankee Pitcher Count (6) Brown, El Duque, Vazquez, Quantrill, Gordan and Rivera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Mussina will pitch before Quantrill or maybe even Gordon. In fact, I think Mussina may be put in early if Brown struggles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I totally forgot Mussina. Slide him in Gordon's position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Well it is kind of sad that the only joy you get out of baseball is seeing the Yankees win. I'm not going to enjoy seeing them lose. I think he just meant it's sad that you can't find any joy in the game other than the Yankees winning. As in, you can't enjoy a good game between two good teams, even if you don't care one way or the other about either of them. Oh, the games were exciting and all that jazz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites