Guest MikeSC Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 MATTHEWS: Let me ask you the question about—this is going to cause some trouble with people—but as an historian now and studying the Revolutionary War as it was fought out in the South in those last years of the War, insurgency against a powerful British force, do you see any parallels between the fighting that we did on our side and the fighting that is going on in Iraq today? CARTER: Well, one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought. I think another parallel is that in some ways the Revolutionary War could have been avoided. It was an unnecessary war. Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonial’s really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely, and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6281085/ Yeah, THAT was a great choice we had for President in 1976. And I fear a Kerry Presidency would give Carter credibility in the gov't again. -=Mike
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 The most bloody war? Did he forget about how bad the Civil War was? God what a moron. The Revolutionary War was completely necessary and anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant of history.
Guest whitemilesdavis Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 He didn't say WE could have avoided it. He said had the British honored our requests, the war could have been avoided, which is incredibly far-fetched, but also, true.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Thank God I was in diapers when he was in charge...
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 He really seems to love governments that oppress people or he at least tries to put the most postivie spin on how they act.
Guest whitemilesdavis Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Do you see that in the article posted, or are you bringing that from some other experience?
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 His history. He loves dictators. Carter always pops up to defend oppressive governments.
Guest whitemilesdavis Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Uhmm, Ok. I thought it may have related to the subject at hand, but OK.
2GOLD Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 I don't remember Jimmy being this insane.
Dr. Tom Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 I would say Carter is taking a big shit on his legacy, but it's not like he has much of one to soil.
Guest whitemilesdavis Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 By that comment? I just didn't see much there. And I really thought he's raised his level of respect since getting out of office. I don't think anyone would argue that he was a good president, but he's done some good things since, in terms of foreign relations.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Gotta love what he did with North Korea. I'd narrow the "good things" scope with Prez Peanut to building houses...
Guest whitemilesdavis Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Ahh, it's not like I'm a big supporter of his legacy, I just didn't see why everyone was freaking out over the article in question.
Guest MikeSC Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 By that comment? I just didn't see much there. And I really thought he's raised his level of respect since getting out of office. I don't think anyone would argue that he was a good president, but he's done some good things since, in terms of foreign relations. Umm, can you name any? I know I'm tapped out of anything less than deplorable he did in regards to foreign policy. Let's just say he REALLY hates Israel and is pretty OK with the PLO. -=Mike
Guest whitemilesdavis Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 I was just thinking of a hostage situation he handled a couple of years ago. To be honest, I can't really think of what it was about now. I'll have to search for it. Edited to add: Before anybody says it, I'm not talking about THE Iran Hostage Crises. When you do a search on Jimmy Carter though, that is all that comes up. Wow, this guy doesn't have much of a legacy does he?
Guest GreatOne Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 Hehe, Jimmy Carter. I don't know how we got from 77 to 81 to be honest with you....................
Guest MikeSC Posted October 20, 2004 Report Posted October 20, 2004 I was just thinking of a hostage situation he handled a couple of years ago. To be honest, I can't really think of what it was about now. I'll have to search for it. Edited to add: Before anybody says it, I'm not talking about THE Iran Hostage Crises. When you do a search on Jimmy Carter though, that is all that comes up. Wow, this guy doesn't have much of a legacy does he? Not a good one. Keep in mind, one can easily lay the whole "rise of theocratic regimes in the Middle East" on his decision to not back the Shah --- who, while bad, was FAR better than what took over. -=Mike
Vyce Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 CARTER: Well, one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought. I think another parallel is that in some ways the Revolutionary War could have been avoided. It was an unnecessary war. John Kerry weighed in on Carter's remarks today: "This ex-president just doesn't seem to get it...."
St. Gabe Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 I was just thinking of a hostage situation he handled a couple of years ago. To be honest, I can't really think of what it was about now. I'll have to search for it. Edited to add: Before anybody says it, I'm not talking about THE Iran Hostage Crises. When you do a search on Jimmy Carter though, that is all that comes up. Wow, this guy doesn't have much of a legacy does he? Not a good one. Keep in mind, one can easily lay the whole "rise of theocratic regimes in the Middle East" on his decision to not back the Shah --- who, while bad, was FAR better than what took over. -=Mike Yes, because theocratic regimes haven't existed in the middle east since, you know, the beginning of TIME. bad example...go fish.
Guest MikeSC Posted October 21, 2004 Report Posted October 21, 2004 I was just thinking of a hostage situation he handled a couple of years ago. To be honest, I can't really think of what it was about now. I'll have to search for it. Edited to add: Before anybody says it, I'm not talking about THE Iran Hostage Crises. When you do a search on Jimmy Carter though, that is all that comes up. Wow, this guy doesn't have much of a legacy does he? Not a good one. Keep in mind, one can easily lay the whole "rise of theocratic regimes in the Middle East" on his decision to not back the Shah --- who, while bad, was FAR better than what took over. -=Mike Yes, because theocratic regimes haven't existed in the middle east since, you know, the beginning of TIME. bad example...go fish. Nothing like Iran. They were tyrannical despots, not theocratic despots. -=Mike
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