Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Take this with a grain of salt as its coming from somebody on the ESPN boards, but the Red Sox may have resigned Jason Varitek. Usually I don't believe anybody there, but this person has some inside source. Said person called the Schilling trade, Burks signing, Wells signing, and Wade Miller signing before they were even blips on the radar. The person shows up, makes a single sentence statement on what's about to occur and then leaves. Next day its usually made publicly official. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Not that Newsday is any more credible than that Mnice guy from the ESPN boards...but they are reporting the deal is done now. 4 year 40 mil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Is there a no trade clause? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2004 No. The Red Sox will never give anyone a NT clause as long as Manny, Nixon, Ortiz, etc. are on the team because they, and some others i'm sure, have clauses in their contracts that say if another player gets one...they ALL get one. Although according to the Newsday article there is some "creative language" in the contract to supplement the lack of the official No Trade clause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Ah fuck. Boras dissapoints me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Is this the biggest contract for a catcher after the deal Piazza is on? Pudge got two years/19 mil, and I know he's making more than Jorge now..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Not that Newsday is any more credible than that Mnice guy from the ESPN boards Mnice is obviously working inside the Red Sox in one shape or form. To come out with the David Wells thing while he wasn't even being talked about and to say the Wade Miller signing was done about 12hrs before it was reported got me to believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Sox got rolled by Boras. That is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Sox got rolled by Boras. That is all. don't make me bring up Dustin Hermanson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Who's Victor Martinez's agent? you know he's counting the $$$ right now after seeing that Varitek deal..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Cardinals sign David Eckstein to a three year deal. Nice move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Who's Victor Martinez's agent? you know he's counting the $$$ right now after seeing that Varitek deal..... He's not even close to Free Agency right now. He's got at least another 2 years where Cleveland owns his rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Who's Victor Martinez's agent? you know he's counting the $$$ right now after seeing that Varitek deal..... He's not even close to Free Agency right now. He's got at least another 2 years where Cleveland owns his rights. Even so, he should be able to get substantially more than 10 million a season based on Tek's contract. He had better defensive numbers last year and is a much better hitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 24, 2004 If he makes it to Free Agency without being struck by injuries then maybe so. However he's already had knee and hamstring problems so maybe by the time he reaches free agency he'll be more of a DH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Man, the Sox are making moves virtually everyday. And they didn't really lose a whole lot. Are they going to be the odd-on favs to win the AL East in 2005? And sorry to keep harping, but the Cubs seem to truly be the only contending team doing nothing at all. Keeping Nomar was a big move that I think got lost in the shuffle of other MLB happenings, but I wish they'd do something to address issues that plagued them in 2004. This means the bullpen and the hitting. They still need a credible leadoff man, because Corey Patterson isn't the answer. Even Stoney predicted he'll be a three or four guy down the road. They moved Sarge to first base coaching duties, so hopefully the hitting will come together in 2005. I'm still skeptical, but then again, we are talking about the Cubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 I'm with you completely, man, the Cubs best get steppin'. Jason Dubois is a bench player for 2005, platoon at best. He is not the full-time solution in left field. We need a bench, we need a bullpen, we're getting neither, and time is running out. Also, we need Carlos Beltran. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Magglio Ordonez is still available. Cubs should grab him. Red Sox will trade you Byung-Hyung Kim to be your closer if ya want! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Man, the Sox are making moves virtually everyday. And they didn't really lose a whole lot. Are they going to be the odd-on favs to win the AL East in 2005? And sorry to keep harping, but the Cubs seem to truly be the only contending team doing nothing at all. Keeping Nomar was a big move that I think got lost in the shuffle of other MLB happenings, but I wish they'd do something to address issues that plagued them in 2004. This means the bullpen and the hitting. They still need a credible leadoff man, because Corey Patterson isn't the answer. Even Stoney predicted he'll be a three or four guy down the road. They moved Sarge to first base coaching duties, so hopefully the hitting will come together in 2005. I'm still skeptical, but then again, we are talking about the Cubs. Yanks made a lot of deals. Stanton, F-Rod, Pavano, Wright, Wolmack, plus maybe Beltran and RJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 H0T CUBZ NEWS~! We re-signed Jose Macias. Yeah, these Cubs are a team to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 FUCK How are the repairs on Wrigley Field coming? Will we see anything new at the park in 2005? -- Craig F., Rochester, N.Y. There are crews currently working on the ballpark. A "new" thing that will be obvious to those in the bleachers will be the rotating advertising board behind home plate. It's a sign of the times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 They were talking about that this past summer. Not surprised at all that the organization is looking for yet another outlet to profit from, while doing very little in the way of focusing on the actual team. And I think the Yanks' moves are a lot riskier than the ones the Sox made. Wright is not worth anything close to the contract he got; Womack is going to show you quick enough that 2004 was his last hurrah, and I'm not convinced that Carl Pavano was rightfully one of the hottest free agents this off season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Wright wasn't going to settle for anything less. Benson fucked everything up. And about Wolmack. As long as he plays good D, and can atleast do SOMETHING offensivley, he'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Wright wasn't going to settle for anything less. Benson fucked everything up. And about Wolmack. As long as he plays good D, and can atleast do SOMETHING offensivley, he'll be fine. Just because he wouldn't settle for anything less doesn't mean it was okay to give in to him. Womack is injury prone and I'd expect him to be much like Lofton was for you guys last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Last year's Lofton would be a godsend compared to what I expect from Womack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 I'm happy about the additions of F-Rod and Stanton, very happy about keeping Sturtze. F-Rod should split time with Flash as the primary setup man, and if Torre/Stottlemeyer are smart about using Stanton he will be good in a marginal role. I wouldn't count on him to carry many innings, but as a situational/matchup guy he should be fine. Pavano, I'm not completely sold on him yet, but I like his makeup and style, and he's probably an upgrade on Lieber due to less wear and tear on the arm. I was pretty disapointed to see Lieber go though, and I would have been perfectly content to keep him and let Pavano go elsewhere. Time will tell..... I don't like the Wright move, and I think he's looking at a +4 ERA. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, I hope so, but I don't think he's a NYC kind of guy. Womack I like, conditional on him having a part-time role. I don't want him out there every day, and I really think we should have kept Miguel Cairo to split time with him. I have to think we're adding another 2B at some point, I'd target Hairston except it's doubtful Baltimore moves him in division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Al, do you think Sturtze will be able to keep up his 2nd have success, or was it just a hot streak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Al, do you think Sturtze will be able to keep up his 2nd have success, or was it just a hot streak? Hot streak. Sturtze was awful through August. His streak of good pitching consisted solely of 16 good innings in September. Remember in the postseason Sturtze still walked five batters in six innings, and he posted a 6.75 ERA in the divisional series. Sturtze is 34, and carries a career ERA of 5.23. It is HIGHLY unlikely that a single good month represents a new standard of excellence for a pitcher, particularly at that point in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 How the hell did he have a 6.75 ERA?!? I really do hope he can keep it up, as he was a beast against the Sox in the ALCS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Talk about over paying According to ESPN.com, David Eckstein received a three-year, $10.25 million contract from the Cardinals. He gets a $250,000 signing bonus and salaries of $2.25 million, $3.25 million and $4.5 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 - Boston looking to move Byung-Hyun Kim, Brewers and Rockies have interest thank god Sucks Roberts is gone, but Varitek back makes me happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
