Bored 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 Well now Rickey has to comeback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 Noted Met killer Brian Jordan signs with the Braves again. I'm sure he's salivating at the thought of getting to face Met pitching again, he basically made his entire career by killing the Mets. I'm sorry, John Franco and Armando Benitez are no longer Mets once a Met killer, always a Met killer, this guy scares the hell out of me. Maybe Pedro can brush him back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 So how many games do Jordan and Mondesi play combined this year? I'll go with 93. Jordan will probably get around 70 games but, being as though it's the Braves, Mondesi will probably throw down .270/.340/.465 with twenty home runs and almost twenty steals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 The Phillies signed IF Jose Offerman to a minor league contract. Yeah, its Offerman. But he sports a career .361 OBP, and posted a .363 mark last season. I won't mind seeing him in Scranton at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 Wasn't he a great pinch hitter last year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 Wasn't he a great pinch hitter last year? Yes. The only problem is that first base is stocked with Thome, and if we keep Ryan Howard and Placido Polanco, I don't see the need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 The New York Yankees could have REALLY used him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 Offerman? We can do better than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 Regarding Clemens, that $22 Million is the most ridiculous offer I have ever heard. The Astros will EASILY get their offer in a hearing. The question is whether Clemens will pitch. Quite honestly, if I were the Astros, I would tell Clemens to take a flying leap at this point. Actually, there's a lot of chit-chat going around that Clemens may have the upper-hand, as he falls into having a lot of "special achievements", which allow him to make comparisons to, say, the guy that he beat for the Cy Young last year, Randy Johnson. Johnson just received a two-year, $16 million extension to his contract, which means that Clemens could potentially command something higher than the midpoint of $17.5 between the arbitration offers. (One less year means more guaranteed money for this single year to compensate, he beat out Johnson for the Cy Young, etc.) And, according to one of the arbitration experts that popped up on Fred Claire's radio show on MLB.com yesterday, when it comes to arbitration cases, it's not necessarily arguing the $13 million versus the $22 million figure, but arguing which side of the midpoint that Clemens' true value falls upon. I'm not saying that he should get the $22 million - I think it's absolutely ridiculous - but that there may be more of a chance that he will, given the way that the system works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2005 Clemens should retire; he's not getting these Astros anywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Im beginning to wonder why I even bother scouring the news reports for news about the Orioles. They should be renamed the Baltimore Bears...since its obvious they've gone into hibernation until next month. ZZZZZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Ugh, he's not going away! http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb...s_mlb&fext=.jsp Houston television KRIV-TV, citing Major League Baseball sources, reported Thursday night the Astros and Roger Clemens were "very close to agreement" on a one-year contract that will make the seven-time Cy Young Award winner the highest-paid pitcher in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted January 21, 2005 you know, at the very least the highest paid pitcher in history could be the best pitcher in the league. I don't think that's asking so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Well at least the Astros will salvage some of their offseason. I can't help but wonder though, since they're unlikely to make a serious run this year even with Clemens, if they aren't better off telling Clemens to retire and using that $18 mil to help lock Berkman and Oswalt up long-term. Those guys are the future, not Clemens, and now is the perfect time to get both of them signed before the price goes up next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strummer 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 well the Mets offered lower than the Marlins did for Delgado, so unless Minaya really is a "miracle worker" then he'll go 2/3 this offseason. Unless the Rangers blow him away, looks like he will join the Fish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Let's hope so, but I'm not so sure. Newsday reported that the Mets offered 4 years 45 million, which is substantially more than the Marlins offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 LA Dodgers signed MR Aquilino Lopez to an MLC and invited to ST. Atlanta Braves signed 2B Marcus Giles to a 1 year, $2.35 Million contract. Chicago Cubs signed MR Jimmy Anderson to an MLC and invited to ST. Chicago Cubs signed OF Peter Bergeron to an MLC and invited to ST. Baltimore Orioles are close to signing MR Steve Reed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Ugh, he's not going away! http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb...s_mlb&fext=.jsp Houston television KRIV-TV, citing Major League Baseball sources, reported Thursday night the Astros and Roger Clemens were "very close to agreement" on a one-year contract that will make the seven-time Cy Young Award winner the highest-paid pitcher in history. Would 7-12, 4.78 be too much to ask? The Astros deserve to fall flat on their faces for offering that kind of contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Chicago Cubs signed MR Jimmy Anderson to an MLC and invited to ST. That's sorta funny considering they just traded him to Boston in July. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 well the Mets offered lower than the Marlins did for Delgado, so unless Minaya really is a "miracle worker" then he'll go 2/3 this offseason. Unless the Rangers blow him away, looks like he will join the Fish. I heard that they offered 3/33 or 3/34, which is considered to be almost equal with the Marlins' offer of 3/35, because Florida's offer has a lot of deferred money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Clemens officially signs for 1yr/18mil. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1972067 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Clemens officially signs for 1yr/18mil. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1972067 That's all I have to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 well the Mets offered lower than the Marlins did for Delgado, so unless Minaya really is a "miracle worker" then he'll go 2/3 this offseason. Unless the Rangers blow him away, looks like he will join the Fish. I heard that they offered 3/33 or 3/34, which is considered to be almost equal with the Marlins' offer of 3/35, because Florida's offer has a lot of deferred money. Completely false. Florida has no state income tax (don't live in FLA, so I can't verify but a few of the articles I read mentioned this), NY is 8%. Even deferred, he's getting more money in Fla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 The Astros had money to spare considering they tried to sign Beltran, and they have no other options for the spare money. Without Clemens, the Astros are toast, and lose tons of potential revenue in the process. Personally, I am glad to see Clemens back as a fan. Clemens is one of the elite pitchers of all time, and I would really like to see how far he can go. A 17 win season will place him 8th all time in wins. However, his stalling on whether or not to play is quite maddening. It is a disservice to his team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 well the Mets offered lower than the Marlins did for Delgado, so unless Minaya really is a "miracle worker" then he'll go 2/3 this offseason. Unless the Rangers blow him away, looks like he will join the Fish. I heard that they offered 3/33 or 3/34, which is considered to be almost equal with the Marlins' offer of 3/35, because Florida's offer has a lot of deferred money. Completely false. Florida has no state income tax (don't live in FLA, so I can't verify but a few of the articles I read mentioned this), NY is 8%. Even deferred, he's getting more money in Fla. Good point. I took that from Rotoworld's commentary on the situation, but - much like the Beltran situation - the taxes definitely come into play. And, as far as Clemens go, the Astros have got to be furious that Clemens essentially held the team hostage in a public forum and then squeezed them for all that they're worth. I respect what the Rocket has accomplished as a player but, as a person, his attitude and tactics leave a lot to be desired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I wouldn't dismiss the deferrement idea that quickly. While there is no tax, if they deferred enough it could still work out the same. The NY tax would only be 2.8 million. That could be offset if the deferrment was spread over a lengthy period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Texas Rangers signed Manager Buck Showalter to a 3 year contract extension and GM John Hart to a 2 year contract. Showalter has a club option for 2010. Cleveland Indians signed 3B/OF Casey Blake to a 2 year contract with a club option for 2007. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 And, as far as Clemens go, the Astros have got to be furious that Clemens essentially held the team hostage in a public forum and then squeezed them for all that they're worth. I respect what the Rocket has accomplished as a player but, as a person, his attitude and tactics leave a lot to be desired. Why should they be furious? They could have given him a drop-dead date to make his decision (like they should have done with Beltran) and been prepared to move on without him, but they chose not to. And how reasonable would it have been for them to expect Clemens to play for $5 mil again? He certainly earned this contract based on what he did last year. And, even though they're paying him $18 mil this season (plus the incentives he earned last year), the Astros are getting two years of Roger Clemens for just under $25 mil--that's a bargain if you ask me. They weren't going to use the money for anything else anyway (though they SHOULD use it to at least lock Berkman up long-term). I just better not hear Uncle Drayton bitch about losing money again this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Well Sportscenter gave his promo package the ol' Carmina Burana treament. Sheesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I think the Astros are still in trouble. Kent's gone, Beltran's gone and the ability of Biggio and Bagwell will go down at least another peg this season. They'll still present a formidable team because of their pitching (except everyone in the bullpen not named Brad Lidge), but I can envision them being much like the Dodgers a couple years back. Magnificent pitching but not nearly enough hitting to keep them in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
