EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I'll try and do all the positions as time allows. Schoolwork has a nasty habit of taking up my time, however. I list the top 10, and evaluate the top 5. 1. Jason Varitek 2. Damian Miller 3. Mike Matheny 4. Gregg Zaun 5. Doug Mirabelli 6. Dan Wilson 7. Mike Redmond 8. Javier Valentin 9. Todd Pratt 10. Sandy Alomar Jr. Jason Varitek is a switch hitting catcher with power. The good is that he is easily the best catcher on the market. He is 32, so the usual concerns about catcher aging patterns apply. The problem with Varitek is that he is overrated. His .390 OBP was over 40 points higher than his career average, and it could be a fluke. He has shown inconsistancy in the past. He is good for a two or three year deal, but I would not bet the farm on him. I would be surprised to see him land outside Boston. Damian Miller experienced a career revival with the Oakland Athletics. Unfortunately, he will be 35 next season. Miller posted 15 win shares this season. In his five previous seasons, he posted totals of 10, 11, 10, 10 and 10. Alot of consistancy there. I think he will regress to his previous level. Miller is underrated, and the Athletics value his defense, so I expect he will stay in Oakland. Mike Matheny has been the Cardinals' defensive marvel for five seasons. He provides no offense whatsoever. His best career OPS was .679. The question obviously is how much do you value his defense? Yadier Molina can play defense, and at 21, he already has a better offensive season under his belt than anything from Matheny. At 33, Matheny is best served as a backup, but some team will likely hand him a starting job, based on his prior experience. Gregg Zaun posted a career best .367 OBP in 338 at bats with the Toronto Blue Jays. Zaun's had great years sandwiched between bad years, so it is tough to judge what kind of performance you will get. Make no mistake, Zaun is a very good hitter, and will make an excellent backup somewhere. I would love to see the Phillies make this move. I am hard pressed to say which teams are likely to seek Zaun, but many teams SHOULD seek Zaun for their benches, including the Yankees, Cardinals, and Astros. Doug Mirabelli's primary value is that you have to put someone at the end of a top five list. Still, Mirabelli has a career .331 OBP and .426 slugging percentage, about league average. And he can catch the knuckleball, so he has some obvious defensive skills. There are teams doing alot worse right now at catcher. Mirabelli is the kind of player the Oakland Athletics could plug in their lineup in a pinch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I hope Miller's stock didn't rise TOO MUCH that a deeper pocketed team doesn't come along and snatch him away. I hope he resigns with Oakland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 How could Paul Bako not crack the top 10?!? Udmurt Korka-murt how? EDIT: for reasons completely unbeknowst to me, I hit a key somewhere, probably paste, that put in the phrase "udmurt korka-murt." I was looking something up about Finno-Ugric mythology for somebody and that was the name of a house spirit that would tidy up the place when you were gone. Anyway, I somehow inserted it in the midst of my rage about Paul Bako not making the Top 10, and I'm just gonna leave Udmurt Korka-murt in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Is there a possible reason as to why JP has not re-signed Greg Zaun, i know there is infact a catcher waiting in the wings. I mean he has a great arm, but he isn't there hitting wise. At least 2 yrs away from being a starting catcher IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Probably to give Quiroz some playing time. The shitty 2004 has kind of bought them some rebuilding time, so no one expects them to contend in '05 now, so they can get away with having a bunch of rookies play (Quiroz, Adams, Rios, and Gross are all going to be in their first full seasons and will probably get quite a bit of playing time and Bush should probably be in the rotation, at least to start the season). Are there any catchers out on the trade market? I really wouldn't be surprised if Orlando Hudson got traded (especially if he wins the Gold Glove, his trade value will be high). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I can't imagine a shitter season then 2004 especially with all the talent. If that's the case then 05 is going to be very hard to watch. Wonder if we end up in the cellar again. What i wouldn't give to see the Jays get moved from the East to the Central, as JP's plan can not work in the AL East with the yankees and red sox spending as they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Well, they'll be playing young players, but they are good players who showed promise in '04. Ricciardi's said that his ideal payroll would be ~$70 million, and Rogers may still bump up how much he'll pay this year since they're almost breaking even now (though I doubt they were losing as much as they said they were a few years ago). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I think the Blue Jays will be much improved next season. Their pitching actually improved, but their runs scored fell from 2nd to 10th in the league. Just about all of their players performed at the bottom of their talent level. They should rebound, and Riccardi will patch the holes where needed. And they do have a great deak of young talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Just so you know, there is a good chance the reds will non-tender Jason LaRue, as he will get a raise above his 2 million salary, and they are not sure he is worth much more. I am not sure where you will put him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Just so you know, there is a good chance the reds will non-tender Jason LaRue, as he will get a raise above his 2 million salary, and they are not sure he is worth much more. I am not sure where you will put him. Second. He's just about on the level of Damian Miller, and he's younger than all but Javier Valentin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Are there any catchers out on the trade market? I really wouldn't be surprised if Orlando Hudson got traded (especially if he wins the Gold Glove, his trade value will be high). Hypothetical situation: Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty pulls a sign-and-trade with Mike Matheny, sending him to the Jays for Orlando Hudson to fill the upcoming 2B slot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 The Jays will not give up Hudson for Matheny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Are there any catchers out on the trade market? I really wouldn't be surprised if Orlando Hudson got traded (especially if he wins the Gold Glove, his trade value will be high). Hypothetical situation: Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty pulls a sign-and-trade with Mike Matheny, sending him to the Jays for Orlando Hudson to fill the upcoming 2B slot. I think there's a rule in place that prevents a GM from pulling such a move, without the player agreeing to the trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Report today is the A's won't be re-signing Damian Miller. He's apparantly asking for a three-year deal and in that case I wouldn't keep him either. I doubt a catcher his age will have many teams offering three years so I wouldn't rule him still coming back to Oakland. Hopefully by 2006 John Baker will be ready and by 2007 either Kurt Suzuki or Landon Powell could take over so they only really need a one-year stop gap this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 2, 2004 I could see Matheny on the team next year, playing Girardi to Dioner's Posada. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Are there any catchers out on the trade market? I really wouldn't be surprised if Orlando Hudson got traded (especially if he wins the Gold Glove, his trade value will be high). Hypothetical situation: Cardinals GM Walt Jocketty pulls a sign-and-trade with Mike Matheny, sending him to the Jays for Orlando Hudson to fill the upcoming 2B slot. I think there's a rule in place that prevents a GM from pulling such a move, without the player agreeing to the trade. Yeah...I think free agents signed during the offseason can't be traded until May or June of the next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Yeah, because the Yanks tried to get rid of Lofton in April and couldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2004 Oh, okay. Thanks for the correction on that, then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites