3rd Party choice for tommorow

[Guest Olympic Slam]

If you're like me, you're probably sick to your stomach about going out to vote for either Bush or Kerry tommorow. Rather than stay home or vote for one of the two flip-floppers, vote for an alternative! Here's some last minute links to the Green, Constitution, and Libertarian party platforms. Its refreshing to see platforms (yes even the EVIL Green platform) that aren't afriad of what they stand for and actually spell out what they would do in plain English.

 

Constitution Party - Michael A. Peroutka

 

Libertarian Party - Michael Badnarik

 

Independent (Watermellon Party? National Socialist Party?) - Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo

 

Green Party - David Cobb

[Guest MikeSC]

Libertarians would be lovely, provided they would ever nominate somebody who was less than a complete fucktard.

-=Mike

[snuffbox 0]

Libertarians would be lovely, provided they would ever nominate somebody who was less than a complete fucktard.

-=Mike

Harry Browne had at least a certain level of respectability. Badnarik is clearly not the answer for the Libertarian party. Perhaps it is time to recruit Jesse Ventura.

 

I wouldnt mind seeing Wisconsin's Ed Thompson on the national political stage...but hes basically a combination of Badnarik and Teddy Kennedy. Hes passionate and entertaining...but not too credible.

[Guest MikeSC]

Libertarians would be lovely, provided they would ever nominate somebody who was less than a complete fucktard.

          -=Mike

Harry Browne had at least a certain level of respectability. Badnarik is clearly not the answer for the Libertarian party. Perhaps it is time to recruit Jesse Ventura.

 

I wouldnt mind seeing Wisconsin's Ed Thompson on the national political stage...but hes basically a combination of Badnarik and Teddy Kennedy. Hes passionate and entertaining...but not too credible.

And it's sad, since libertarian bloggers (such as Instapundit Glenn Reynolds) seem like rather sane people. God knows why the party can't recruit a single not-bloody-insane candidate.

-=Mike

[Swift Terror 0]

Sorry dude, it may be a cheap shot, but if you can't spell "tomorrow," maybe you should stay away from the two main parties.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Peltier all the wa- ok.. nevermind..

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

here's my predicted popular vote finish of the third party candidates

 

Badnarik

Nader

Cobb

Peroutka

Walt Brown (Socialist)

John Parker (Worker's World)

Roger Calero/James Harris (Socialist Workers)

Bill Van Auken (Socialist Equality)

Leonard Peltier (Peace & Freedom)

Gene Amondson (Concerns of People)

Charles Jay (Personal Choice)

Earl Dodge (Prohibition)

 

and the 2000 results for third parties:

 

Nader

Buchanan

Browne (Libertarian)

Phillips (Constitution)

Hagelin (Natural Law)

James Harris (Socialist Workers)

L. Neil Smith (Arizona Libertarians)

David McReynolds (Socialist)

Monica Moorehead (World Workers)

Denny Lane (Grassroots)

Earl Dodge (Prohibition)

 

and the last place finisher in 2000 was this guy

 

Louie G. Youngkeit (Utah)

 

Youngkeit -- a rather eccentric candidate -- claims he is "the Heir Apparent of the [late billionaire] Howard R. Hughes' Estate." You see, Hughes was secretly murdered in 1970 -- and his body was frozen for several years until his death was announced in 1976 -- and JFK was assassinated in 1963 because of Hughes's money -- and it was also the reason for the Watergate break-in -- and President Bush and Hillary Clinton are part of the scheming -- all that and lots more can be found in Youngkeit's conspiracy theory (see his website for more details). As a write-in candidate in the 1996 Presidential race, Youngkeit earned only 19 votes. Having secured ballot status in his homestate of Utah, he is guaranteed to score a better performance in 2000. Youngkeit's Vice Presidential runningmate is Robert L. Beck.

 

and here's more candidates: http://politics1.com/ind04.htm

 

Your choices vary

 

Fred Cook (Georgia)

 

After briefly contemplating a run for Congress, retired school teacher Fred Cook decided to instead make a write-in bid for President in 2000 after "nearly 50 people showed up at my front door ... [and] urged me to run for political office." By March 2000, Cook boasted that he was going to "steal the election away" because a "national online poll" had him at 34%. Of course, the poll he referenced was the one he himself conducted on his own web site! Needless to say, his 2000 campaign fizzled (he claims he won 4,217 write-in votes -- but official election statistics compiled by the FEC and others reflect that he won only a handful of write-in votes). Undaunted, he's back for a second White House bid in 2004. Although he moves in and out of the Republican Party, Cook seems to now be a Religious Right candidate running as an Independent (although he also expressed ties to the past to the little-known Christian Alliance Party). As for issues, Cook supports tax cuts, an end to Affirmative Action programs, federal term limits, educational system improvements and increased military spending. Considering that the guy was a teacher, it was a bit sad that his 2000 site contained numerous spelling errors -- including the instruction for voters to "right his name in on the ballot." Cook is upset that we mentioned this (and the vote total correction) -- as his site now has a "Fred Cook speaks out against Politics1.com" under the Breaking News header on Cook's homepage.

 

Jack Grimes (Pennsylvania)

 

Jack Grimes -- who previously ran for President as a write-in candidate in 2000 -- bills himself as the "Leader and Director of the United Fascist Union." As for his use of the word "Fascist," Grimes explains he wants to restore a New World Order based upon the governmental style of Imperial Rome "to institute a military dictatorship form of government over the Earth." Grimes believes that "the psychic is the next great step in the evolution of humankind on this planet." And it gets more weird: Grimes wants to address "the dilemmas now facing America and the whole of Western civilization: Democracy, Christianity, International Capitalism, Earth Changes, U.F.O.'s, government cover-ups, and others." Citing to Cayce and Nostradamus, Grimes predicts that "the United States will be reduced from its present size to a small triangular-shaped land mass through the loss of many of its coastal states." While those quotes come from his old 2000 campaign site, his 2004 is equally entertaining. Be sure to visit the "Pictures" page to view Grimes and his girlfriend (presumably) posing in their homemade black uniforms ... and to view pictures of them eating at different local restaurants. Or visit the "Speeches" page to read Grimes' 1998 remarks delivered to the "Flying Saucer Society of Dover, DE." Best of all is the Discussion Boards section of his site, in which Grimes exalts his followers to worship Satan -- plus you can read about the problem he was having getting to a campaign event in another state (because Mom's car was broken, etc.). While Grimes failed to achieve ballot status in any states in 2000, he falsely boasts on his site that he was on the ballot in 45 states and placed 6th in the race.

 

Muadin (Massachusetts)

 

Muadin -- yup, he just uses one name -- is an announced write-in candidate for President. His slogan is a New Age-sounding mantra of "One People, One Planet, One Awareness." Muadin writes he is the candidate of the "E-Democratic Party" -- an unknown entity which he apparently created. What does he stand for? Here are his own words: "The people of earth must use the Internet to network and organize at the grassroots level, outside of the corporate global power structure, in a leaderless revolution of awareness and ideas, a second enlightenment, aimed at establishing e-democracy at every level of human government and in every aspect of human society and affairs. The e-democratic spirit of this leaderless cyber-revolution must culminate in a planetary e-democratic federal government through which all executive, legislative, judicial, and economic power ultimately rests directly in the hands of the people of earth." This focus includes is a requirement that Congressmen and US Senators must vote based upon e-votes on each issue cast by their constitutuents -- and that the federal government be changed from three branches into five branches (don't ask!). Other positions in his platform include a 10% flat tax, abolition of the death penalty, a constitutional ban on political parties (so all candidates must run as Independents), federal term limits, separate national election of the Vice President, repeal of the Second Amendment (gun rights) ... in fact, when we last checked, Muadin was proposing 18 constitutional amendments. If you dig through Muadin's off-beat campaign site, you can also find pix of Muadin badly cropped into poses in the White House ... and a picture of "future First Lady" Jessica Muadin (who, unlike her husband, has a full name). Muadin describes himself as a motivational speaker and President of the Planet Pilgrims Center for E-Democracy and Planetary Awareness.

 

Lawrence Rey Topham (Utah) 

 

Larry Topham -- who declares on his campaign site that his "favorite food" is "wheat" -- is the quintessential perennial candidate. Over the past 28 years, Topham has run for Salt Lake City Mayor (1995, 1999, 2003), US Senate (1994), Salt Lake City Council (1993), Utah Governor (1992, 1988), Congress (1990), and President (1976, 1996, 2000) -- and there are probably more that we missed, as he sometimes runs as a write-in candidate. And, over those years, he has run as both an Independent and as a nominee of various third parties. Topham is also a bit eccentric. A 68-year-old retiree, he is a zealous advocate of returning the US to the gold standard -- and he refuses to recognize the validity of the dollars (Federal Reserve Notes) currently in use as they are backed by neither silver nor gold. In a 1998 incident, he entered the closed Utah Capitol building near midnight by falsely telling a guard that he worked there. When police officers later found him in the rest room, Topham claimed to be the Secretary of State and declared he was there to seize the Capitol. He was arrested by use of pepper spray, according to court documents. At other times, Topham has declared various officeholders illegitimate, claiming they either didn't properly file their oath of office certificates or didn't pay their filing fees with gold or silver. Topham still persists with these claims, as his 2004 Presidential site declares Topham is currently the "Secretary of State of the State of Utah and Acting Governor during martial law." In fact, Topham apparently declared martial law in Utah in November 1997 because everyone is using that "fake" money not backed by gold/silver -- which, he declared, now makes him the Governor of Utah. Further, "Governor" Topham has decreed that anyone who works to elect any candidate he deems an unauthorized candidate (i.e., just about every candidate who qualifies for the ballot) is "participating in an unofficial election to overthrow the constitutional government of the State of Utah and its counties and is forbidden by law, and may well be an act of treason." Amusingly, "Secretary of State" Topham even regularly issues his own certificate of official election results (note: candidates named Topham won 4 out the top 8 ballot offices in his 2002 certificate). In addition to the above-linked campaign site, other Topham sites include: Topham for Governor 2004, About Truth, Freedom, Zion, and the The Constition, Topham for President Blog, Topham for President Blog #2, Official Office of Lawrence Rey Topham, Acting Utah Governor, State of Utah, Secretary of State Lawrence Rey Topham, 2002 A.D., and The Constitution: Sound. A related link: Salt Lake City Weekly: Larry Topham's Patriot Games.

[Guest Olympic Slam]

Sorry dude, it may be a cheap shot, but if you can't spell "tomorrow," maybe you should stay away from the two main parties.

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[Rob E Dangerously 0]

John Kerry has a plan to respell tomorrow into tommorrow

[AndrewTS 0]

John Kerry has a plan to respell tomorrow into tommorrow

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Jack Grimes -- who previously ran for President as a write-in candidate in 2000 -- bills himself as the "Leader and Director of the United Fascist Union." As for his use of the word "Fascist," Grimes explains he wants to restore a New World Order based upon the governmental style of Imperial Rome "to institute a military dictatorship form of government over the Earth."

 

(C-Bacon) So, he really wanted to run as a Republican? (/C-Bacon)

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Most third parties are whacko extremists. I'll take Kerry OR Bush over the likes of Ralph Nader any day of the week.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Jack Grimes would be a shoe-in if not for his third-party status.

[Guest Retro Rob]

I'm undecided, in terms of Nader or Badnarik.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I'm liking Grimes, actually. Muadin had me up until the gun thing.

[AndrewTS 0]

If you've got a name like "Badnarik" or "Grimes," being a politician would be rather tough, I think.

 

OTOH I would think "Monica Moorehead" would get a good bit of votes for a 3rd party.

[Guest Anglesault]

Does America really need 47 socialist parties?

 

And, for your viewing pleasure,

[Vyce 0]

Wasn't there a great thread a while back where people posted info on some of the wackier, more insane third-party candidates.

[imajackoff? 0]

Voting 3rd party in the Presidential election truley is wasting your vote.

 

What I do is vote 3rd Party on the local level. This is the only way that a legitimate alternative voice will ever be heard. These canidates need to gain prominance and respectabillty on city councils, boards of educations, etc. Then, perhaps in 10-20 yrs. viable opposition to the bullshit we're currently served will be given to us on a national and presidential level.

[Guest Brian]

If the third party can get Federal Matching Funds or if it can help them to build that local base, voicing issues on a national level, I'd say it's worthwhile. It's not always about winning.