Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 I bought the first season of Will & Grace back when Best Buy had it for $12, just because I know it has a following. After a while, I finally put in the first disc and watched the first few episodes. It was the first time in my life I had ever seen a second of the show. Simply put, I don't see how anyone could get into that show. I'm to the point where I can't hardly stand the traditional sitcom anymore. I still love watching reruns of old shows, but none of the new shows with a laugh track are watchable to me. I don't know if it's because shows like Arrested Development, Scrubs, and yes even The Office have now spoiled me, or if the quality of those "laugh track" sitcoms just isn't what they used to be. The first episodes of Will & Grace are shit, especially the first one. They protected themselves heavily since it was the first year of being the first gay network sitcom. I started out watching the Season Two DVD a year ago, and I've now seen nearly every episode by TiVoing it in syndication. I have no problem enjoying the traditional sitcom. If I'm home on a Friday night, I'll turn on the WB and watch their sitcoms. While I don't bust my gut laughing like I do with AD, I still laugh consistently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2005 I have no problem enjoying the traditional sitcom. If I'm home on a Friday night, I'll turn on the WB and watch their sitcoms. While I don't bust my gut laughing like I do with AD, I still laugh consistently Do you just giggle to yourself while you're walking down the street, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2005 Sure, That '70s Show was more popular at its height, but the show now averages a measly 7 million viewers, only a million more than Arrested. For 1 million viewers, you're going to dump TV's current Emmy champion and hands-down best sitcom for a former hit? That makes so little business sense and would be such an artistic disaster, I refuse to believe it can happen. So I'm just going to assume that Sunday's excellent installment is the season, not series, finale. Arrested wraps up a stellar sophomore season by taking the Bluths right back where they started: facing financial ruin, family division and a threatened incarceration. Even their house is collapsing, which is what happens when you forget to connect the drains. Sunday's multi-pronged plot is hilariously convoluted but has the same outline as most Arrested stories: Michael (Jason Bateman) comes up with a plan to save the family, and his family proceeds to gum it up. The most boneheaded interference this week comes from brother Gob (Will Arnett), but everyone manages to get in Michael's way — including Desperate Housewives creator Marc Cherry, who makes a cameo appearance. So why hasn't Michael fled, as he often threatens to do? The reason is what stops Arrested from becoming yet another bitter anti-family screed: Michael stays close because he enjoys being responsible for the people he loves, as deep under the surface as his affection may sometimes be. What attracts fans, though, is not the show's underlying sentiment. It's the heady verbal and visual dexterity — the quick sight gags, clever puns and topsy-turvy situations. Arrested revels in multiple meanings, unintended consequences and sexual innuendos, so much so that pretty much everything Michael's brother-in-law Tobias says inadvertently exposes his suppressed sexual desires. Yet because it's shot without a studio audience, Arrested tends to just let its jokes drop, leaving it to you to find them. Don't look for punch lines. Instead, pay attention Sunday to Michael's deadpan reactions to the insanity around him. ("Great news! Dad wasn't crushed to death!" "Was there a risk of that?") That Bateman deserves an Emmy should go without saying — but knowing the Emmy voters, it needs to be said early and often. If I had to pick just one other actor to join Bateman at the Emmys, it would be Jessica Walter, whose matriarch Lucille may be the most uproariously self-centered human on the planet. But there's not a single wasted character or weak performer in the pack. And yet this show is in danger of being canceled. That's not just strange; it's insane. From- USA Today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo Effect 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2005 I have no problem enjoying the traditional sitcom. If I'm home on a Friday night, I'll turn on the WB and watch their sitcoms. While I don't bust my gut laughing like I do with AD, I still laugh consistently Do you just giggle to yourself while you're walking down the street, then? Only if I see someone trip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2005 I want this show to survive more than any other show I've ever seen. Hopefully even if FOX let's it drop SOMEONE will pick it up. I've never heard of SUCH a well-regarded show being dropped after so little time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 15, 2005 Fox should send it to FX. I can't imagine that the show is too expensive and FX doesn't have to worry as much about ratings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2005 Yeah, FX or HBO. HBO would work too because they could say "fuck" without bleeping it out. Hey check this out. You can tie together Arrested Development and all the great HBO comedies. David Cross and Jay Johnston from Mr. Show; Jeffrey Tambor from the Larry Sanders Show, and Jeff Garlin from Curb Your Enthusiasm. Also, I know Bob Odenkirk did guest appearances on CYE (the porn star that puts Tabasco sauce on his dick) and Arrested Development (Tobias's marriage counselor), so that's cool too. I always thought Garry Shandling should have been, like, George Sr.'s cell mate in one episode. I would've marked out for a Larry-Hank reunion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted April 15, 2005 I actually don't mind the bleeps. In most cases, I think the bleeps make it funnier. For example, I think Buster's tirade in "Bringing Up Buster" wouldn't be as effective if it were uncensored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2005 That one is true. But when GOB swears it'd probably be funnier uncensored. "Every time this family gets in trouble, oh, let's just have GOB fuck his way out of it!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 15, 2005 I think the bleeps add to the documentary feel of the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted April 15, 2005 But check your lease, man, 'cause you're livin' in FUCK CITY! (looks for high five) Oh-oh-oh that's me judge, I fucked my wife! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted April 16, 2005 The preview clip for the finale on getarrested.com promises more Franklin greatness. I can't wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 We've got a winner on our hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 I'm lightheaded from laughing so hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 Best show ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackFlagg 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 "On the next season of Arrested Development.", so there's gonna be another season? <does happy dance> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 And so ends one of the great TV shows. Now let us all embark on the campaign to make sure we squeeze one more year out of this ol' jalopy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beast 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 I loved how being offered Pop Secret popcorn caused Buster to figure it out finally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 "It's not easy being white" "It's Not Easy being Brown" "It's not Easy being bright" "I've got children all over town" The ending swerve was the greatest thing EVER. Please God, let there be a third season. Until then, guess its back to watching "Atomic Betty" on Cartoon Network. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 "Dad's gonna be crushed!" "You don't...have to tell him." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted April 18, 2005 Gob: "I already lost a brother today." Michael: "Franklin?" Gob: "Well, I didn't lose him...but he's all puckered and white." Michael: "On the plus side, you can take him to lunch at the club now." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 I loved how being offered Pop Secret popcorn caused Buster to figure it out finally. "You're high!" "You're drunk!" "Not this time! Say goodbye Oscar, it's the last time you'll see these-- TEST PATTERN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ABOBO Report post Posted April 18, 2005 "On the next season of Arrested Development.", so there's gonna be another season? <does happy dance> The last episode Soap had the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 "On the next season of Arrested Development.", so there's gonna be another season? <does happy dance> The last episode Soap had the same thing. Oops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 (Tobias shows up at the "blue man group" in paint) "I feel like a fucking idiot." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 GOB changing Franklin's voice when he turned white was brilliant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 "Tell GOB I've not a nice, hard cot with his name on it" "You'd do that to your own brother?" "I said 'cot'" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slimm44 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 Really good finale. Hopefully it does come back in November Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted April 18, 2005 "Dad's gonna be crushed!" "You don't...have to tell him." "But Gob was referring to his own father...who he had hidden under the house." "Uh-oh." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2005 Now starting a marathon from the beginning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites