Randy Savage to come back!!! (Joy!)

[Guest bigrockstar]

- TNA & Randy Savage have resumed negotiations for his return and both sides apparently expect him to be back now. [WrestlingObserver.com]

 

 

 

http://www.acadie.net/chronique/contenu.cf...tification=5773

[Downhome 0]

It's not worth it unless he signs a legally binding CONTRACT. If I was TNA, I just wouldn't have anyone on my show unless they were under some sort of contract. I wouldn't care if it was someone as a jobber, or someone as major as Randy Savage.

 

That said, screw what all of you guys think, I want to see Randy back in a ring. I know that I shouldn't, but I can't help it.

[Guest news_gimmick]

If Hogan has been able to pull off a final run in WWE, then I see no reason why Savage can't have one at least TNA. I also wouldn't mind seeing him at least for a short while in WWE.

[slimm44 0]

Like I said on other boards, I'll believe it when I see it.

[Just call me Dan 0]

The guys cred' has to be shot now that he got straight punked by Hogan. I mean how can you get behind the guy as a threat when he came off as such a pussy who only fights with his mouth?

[Guest wrestling365]

The guys cred' has to be shot now that he got straight punked by Hogan. I mean how can you get behind the guy as a threat when he came off as such a pussy who only fights with his mouth?

 

Savage didn't get punked by Hogan at all.

 

This is what happened as it was told to me. . .

 

Savage arrived at the show with Brian Adams (better known as Crush in his WWF days) and Hogan was with Brian Knobbs (Nasty Boys). Hogan walked up to Savage and extended his hand, which Savage took in reaction. Hogan then said some words to the effect of "I just want to let you know that I love you brother" which Savage totally blew off and walked away. Hogan's gesture was said to be somewhat patronising.

 

One source told me: "After years of Hogan bashing him on the radio in Tampa and after Savage rapping about how he wants to fight Hogan the end result was two 50-year-old men acting like 5-year-old children."

[bob_barron 0]

This was posted in another thread.

 

But I'll point and laugh if they sign him and then laugh even harder when the TNA marks defend it

[bob_barron 0]

:Laughs at wrestling365's "sources":

 

Yea- Hogan sure sounds like a 5 year old there.

[RedJed 0]

In hearing about Savage's tit fit, my first thought was that it actually sucked because, as I stated in another thread, and I know I am in the minority, but the guy MIGHT be able to get some old disinfranchised fans from WCW or oldschool past to check out TNA to see what they will do with him. Thats completely debatable but possible.

 

With all of that said, to defend TNA here (without being, as someone said "a TNA mark" - apparently you cannot say anything about TNA a positive light here without being called a blind mark to the product, BTW) if they dont attempt to figure something out with Savage in bringing him back, they are showing ALOT of ass by having him do a run-in at the end of the ppv that was done to get people talking, and then, much like the Hogan fiasco last year, then not deliver and have him actually be a part of the company, etc. It actually makes TNA look more bush league to not bother trying to figure out how to remedy the problem. Again, I know I'm in the minority, but I was interested to see what they could do with Savage.

 

On another side note, if the Savage shit falls apart, and I hate to say this, but one of the ways to try to offset that loss and general perception to any of the remaining TNA fans is putting Brown v. Jarrett next ppv with Brown getting the title and then signing up Hogan to work a non-title feud with Jarrett going into next year (probably have Hogan appear at Turning Point as well). To have them lose Savage completely, and then not follow up with something rather huge other than (but including) getting the title off Jarrett ASAP will need to happen to keep any pulse of momentum coming off that ppv and into the upcoming months of these monthly ppv experiments. I know alot will argue that neither Savage or Hogan are going to help the company long term, but now Savage unfortunately put them in a bind where I feel one or the other need to be in TNA to avoid any further damage to what credibility the company has.

[Detective Comics 0]

tit fit

Never heard that before, Better believe I'm laughing my ass off.

 

Uh, as far as Randy Savage goes, I haven't seen any of his work in 10 years, and I haven't waqtched TNA since it debuted. Combining the two generates no more interest for me.

[Guest fanofcoils]

Signing Savage combined with going head to head with Smackdown (and Raw?) as well as signing other washed up former stars (Nash, Hall, DDP, Piper, etc) makes TNA seem like WCW in 1998/1999, and that means some interest and more interest than there ever was for TNA before. This will greatly help TNA in the short-term. Its up to them if they want to get anything out of this in the long-term.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

What short term help have they gotten so far ? Their top babyfaces were made to look like jokes, two of whom were the new tag team champions. They had to rewrite a tv show that was being taped later that day when one of the has-beens walked out on them. The guy who was getting good pops from the Florida fans, who is one of their only shots at making a homegrown star, was made to seem secondary to a broken down leatherface, who can't work a match without spending all day writing it out and faxing it to everyone involved. What short term gain have TNA gotten from making their own stars look like jokes ?

[Guest wrestling365]

:Laughs at wrestling365's "sources":

 

Yea- Hogan sure sounds like a 5 year old there.

 

Read: Hogan's gesture was said to be somewhat patronising.

 

Read: patronising

[Guest bigrockstar]

I think it`s worth the headache if he can deliver im the ring. Even if its just a couple of PPV matches.

 

Macho man vs A J Styles

 

Macho Man vs Jeff Hardy

 

Macho Man vs Abyss

 

That would help push the up and coming talents

[eirejmcmahon 0]

I think it`s worth the headache if he can deliver im the ring.

He can't. That's the problem.

[Guest LooneyTune]

Savage hasn't had a good match since 1998. Of course, he hasn't had a match period in the last 3 or 4, but still, he was shit in his last year ot two with WCW.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Savage hasn't had a good match since 1998. Of course, he hasn't had a match period in the last 3 or 4, but still, he was shit in his last year ot two with WCW.

1998? I would even say that is being nice. Hell, I couldn't tell you the last time I say a quality Savage match anyway so whatever. Honestly though, I don't know why TNA is so desperate to get Savage. He doesn't have name value, but at this point........even that is very little. It's to the point now for TNA though that they need to realize that bringing in aging stars from the past should not be top priority. Building up the young stars they have now and working on their shitty booking should be number one on the top of their list. On top of everything else they are apparently thinking that these guys are gonna draw and even if that is true.......it won't last. Nothing surprises me with TNA anymore though......hell, after what Hogan did to them, they still wanna bring HIM in.

[starvenger 0]

Savage is a no-win situation for TNA at this point. I'd agree that you need to save some face by negotiating to bring him back, but outside of that TNA owes him nothing.

 

Anyways, bringing in the oldtimers is ok to an extent, but if the young talent doesn't get built up you're killing yourself when they leave. And for Benoit's sake get the fucking title off of Jarrett.

[Guest DVD Spree]

Maybe Savage will insist on a world title programme with Jarrett, then he can drop the bionic elbow in the only manner he can to protect his knees (using the other guy as a fucking crashmat), wiping Dubba-J out of the picture before walking off into the sunset with a fat payday.

 

Two birds, one stone. I say bring the fucker in. Shit, let him trade freestyles with Road Dogg - nothing like watching a company fly the fuck apart in front of your very eyes.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Savage hasn't had a good match since 1998. Of course, he hasn't had a match period in the last 3 or 4, but still, he was shit in his last year ot two with WCW.

I just watched a '94 Savage match last night. He was completely immobile even then.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Maybe they can put Savage and Luger in the ring together. That'd be fun.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Is Luger actually gonna wrestle? I haven't heard any plans for him yet.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Is Luger actually gonna wrestle?

He hasn't wrestled since 1985, so why should he start now.

 

I just think it would make for great tv to put them in the ring together, because of Elizabeth.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Ohhh...

Forgot about that. Russo loves stuff like that though. Yeah, Macho could say Luger stole the love of his life then murdered her.

 

Or something tasteful like that.

[Guest Loss]

I'd say 1997. Savage had a brief career revival when he turned heel and joined the NWO and had a good series with DDP. He was never the same after losing the retirement match to Warrior at Wrestlemania VII, but he was still having decent-good matches as late as 1997.

[bob_barron 0]

I'd buy a TNA PPV if they booked Savage v. Luger. I'd love to see that match

[Guest LooneyTune]

I think 1998 was pushing it, mainly because I watched zero WCW in 1998. His matches in 1999 sucked ass though. In 1997, he had a pretty good match with DDP at Halloween Havoc IMO, so I split the roads and went with the one year I couldn't comment on.

[Guest Loss]

He also did that insane flying double axehandle in the Hogan/Piper match. How high of a jump was that anyway? Anyway, he tore his ACL making that leap, and wasn't really useful afterward.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

He also did that insane flying double axehandle in the Hogan/Piper match. How high of a jump was that anyway? Anyway, he tore his ACL making that leap, and wasn't really useful afterward.

I think it was at least 12-15 feet, legit. And I don't think he tore his ACL in that match. He was wrestling in January of the next year, and no way he'd have been doing that if he had torn his ACL doing the jump.

[Guest Loss]

I believe so. He finally took the time off to have the surgery in June of 1998.

 

Shawn Michaels has wrestled most of 2004 with a torn ACL.