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I believe Russo wanted to bring him and Rena in once their WWF no-compete deal expired. They couldn't have Marc come out and wrestle, but I guess they were able to have him appear in the crowd and get into a fight with whoever he fought with on that show (it might have been Tank Abbott but I don't know). What I thought was funny was that at the end of the segment, they played the Johnny B. Badd theme.

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Was there any reason why Fit Finlay got the TV title in 1998? That always seemed sort of random.

It was unbelievably random, as nobody had even mentioned Finlay as a contender up to that point.

 

I imagine it was an attempt to spike ratings for Nitro for the whole "anything can happen" vibe.

-=Mike

Lance Storm puts Finlay over big time in his RF shoot interview.

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Who drove the hummer that hit Kevin Nash?

....go back through the thread. This is answered numerous times.

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Who drove the hummer that hit Kevin Nash? Who was the father of Stacy Keiblers baby?

there was no baby. stacy came out with shawn stasiak one night pushing a baby carriage, then revealed the carriage was full of photos of SS, therby implying there was no baby.

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What was the deal with the vignette of Renegade, Joe Gomez, Jim Powers and Alex Wright dressed in Baywatch style swimtrunks and parading around beaches in 1996? Was this to lead to a Beach Patrol gimmick or something? I do recall them working together against the Horsemen or something on one of the Florida Nitro's back then.

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What was the deal with the vignette of Renegade, Joe Gomez, Jim Powers and Alex Wright dressed in Baywatch style swimtrunks and parading around beaches in 1996? Was this to lead to a Beach Patrol gimmick or something? I do recall them working together against the Horsemen or something on one of the Florida Nitro's back then.

Not sure what Wright was doing there, but there were plans to push Renegade, Gomez and Powers as a pretty boy trio.

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While also on the subject of Wright, how did he go from "next big thing" (to the point where Flair loved him so much he wanted to make him a Horsemen but WCW feared turning him heel) to job boy, then back up and back down the card? If they stayed consistent with him, I think he could have been "made".

 

Speaking of the Horsemen, were there any hints to the Rogue Horsemen angle that was to have Pillman and Benoit split off and form their own group with Malenko, Regal and/or Wright? I know the idea was there, but were there any big plans other than "Pillman's a nutcase and unpredictable?" Like, why would Benoit turn on Flair and Arn?

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While also on the subject of Wright, how did he go from "next big thing" (to the point where Flair loved him so much he wanted to make him a Horsemen but WCW feared turning him heel) to job boy, then back up and back down the card? If they stayed consistent with him, I think he could have been "made".

 

Speaking of the Horsemen, were there any hints to the Rogue Horsemen angle that was to have Pillman and Benoit split off and form their own group with Malenko, Regal and/or Wright? I know the idea was there, but were there any big plans other than "Pillman's a nutcase and unpredictable?" Like, why would Benoit turn on Flair and Arn?

While also on the subject of Wright, how did he go from "next big thing" (to the point where Flair loved him so much he wanted to make him a Horsemen but WCW feared turning him heel) to job boy, then back up and back down the card?  If they stayed consistent with him, I think he could have been "made".

 

Probably had something to do with the revolving door of bookers (that is the guys who put together anything not involving Hogan et al). One booker might have wanted to push him, the next one might not have, and another might not have just because the first one wanted it.

 

Speaking of the Horsemen, were there any hints to the Rogue Horsemen angle that was to have Pillman and Benoit split off and form their own group with Malenko, Regal and/or Wright?  I know the idea was there, but were there any big plans other than "Pillman's a nutcase and unpredictable?"  Like, why would Benoit turn on Flair and Arn?

 

The idea never got far enough along to where storyline ideas to get it going would be thought up.

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That somewhat answers a question for me, and brings back a memory of an event that no one is likely to recall.

 

I remember back when Flair was leading the short-lived Magnificent Seven group, it was shortly after Sin 2001 and Flair came out (I believe he was commissioner or president) to announce Scott Steiner's opponent for the World Title match at SuperBrawl Revenge.

 

The man Flair announced?

 

"The great German competitor... ALEX WRIGHT!!!" *Flair dances*

 

Then Kevin Nash came out and jack-knifed Wright off the stage.

 

I guess that was a rib on Flair's backing of Wright as a potential Horseman member.

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Just read a recap of a Sean O'Haire interview on the Observer site. I had always heard Bischoff wanted him to be WCW's new big star during the relaunch, but never knew how. According to Sean, his gimmick would be that he was an anti-hero, an American that was raised in Japan and was therefore a highly skilled martial artist (I assume to both appease the karate mark in Bischoff and utilize Sean's legit toughman background).

 

A few questions stemming from this:

 

Were there any other plans for big pushes to any of the younger talent upon the relaunch? I would figure Shane Helms most definitely would given the efforts thrown behind him doing the Vertebreaker gimmick.

 

Were there any long term plans to keep Kid Kash, AJ Styles, Air Paris around?

 

Would Flair's Magnificent Seven still have been the main heels in the company, or would that have been dropped? And if that was dropped, how would they explain Goldberg, Nash, etc. reappearing on the scene after being destroyed by them?

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What was the deal with the vignette of Renegade, Joe Gomez, Jim Powers and Alex Wright dressed in Baywatch style swimtrunks and parading around beaches in 1996? Was this to lead to a Beach Patrol gimmick or something? I do recall them working together against the Horsemen or something on one of the Florida Nitro's back then.

Yes, cuz it aired before a Nitro match featuring the group in an 8 man tag, it was dropped after that match and never heard again. But Gomez and Renegade continued to tag a bit.

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Just read a recap of a Sean O'Haire interview on the Observer site. I had always heard Bischoff wanted him to be WCW's new big star during the relaunch, but never knew how. According to Sean, his gimmick would be that he was an anti-hero, an American that was raised in Japan and was therefore a highly skilled martial artist (I assume to both appease the karate mark in Bischoff and utilize Sean's legit toughman background).

 

A few questions stemming from this:

 

Were there any other plans for big pushes to any of the younger talent upon the relaunch? I would figure Shane Helms most definitely would given the efforts thrown behind him doing the Vertebreaker gimmick.

 

Were there any long term plans to keep Kid Kash, AJ Styles, Air Paris around?

 

Would Flair's Magnificent Seven still have been the main heels in the company, or would that have been dropped? And if that was dropped, how would they explain Goldberg, Nash, etc. reappearing on the scene after being destroyed by them?

Don't you mean Air Styles? WCW had renamed him that after the debut of his team with Paris, as they gave the two an offical name of "Air Raid". ok that was pretty dumb but the team was cool. I still have a match on tape between those two and Jamie Noble/Evan Karagias and it rocked.

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Yeah, I meant the Air Raid team. I have those matches on tape too, but I wasn't sure if there were plans other than "hey look, a cruiserweight tag team for our new tag division!"

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Re: Sting at WCW Mayhem 99

 

That's how Sting was dressing at the time. I believe he was wearing his black wrestling pants, not jeans. And he had a Sting black t-shirt on. It was part of his new image change (he was a heel at Mayhem '99), new music, etc.

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Yeah, I meant the Air Raid team. I have those matches on tape too, but I wasn't sure if there were plans other than "hey look, a cruiserweight tag team for our new tag division!"

yea, I just mentioned that cuz I thought it was dumb to call him "air styles" but at least a new team was around. They didnt need cruiserweight tag titles, they should have let these teams run with the real belts.

 

The cruiserweight tag division-a main reason I was sad to see the end of WCW as they had at elast done something right toward the end.

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Yeah, I meant the Air Raid team.  I have those matches on tape too, but I wasn't sure if there were plans other than "hey look, a cruiserweight tag team for our new tag division!"

yea, I just mentioned that cuz I thought it was dumb to call him "air styles" but at least a new team was around. They didnt need cruiserweight tag titles, they should have let these teams run with the real belts.

 

The cruiserweight tag division-a main reason I was sad to see the end of WCW as they had at elast done something right toward the end.

No kidding. You had an already established team in Kidman/Rey heading the division, a great IMO heel team of Elix Skipper and Kid Romeo, Styles/Paris, Knoble/Karagias...just an all out awesome division. Between those titles, the elevation of Sugar Shane Helms, Chavo's rudo act and newcomers like Jason Jett (EZ Money), the cruiserweight division was the best thing WCW had going for itself in the end.

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I agree. If only WWF had picked up all those guys right away, rather than cherry picking a few. Just imagine if WWF had taken the WCW Cruiserweight divison and actually given those guys personalities, and pushed them seriously. It would have been great.

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Wow, over 1100 posts.

 

So Ric Flair was supposed to face Curt Hennig originally for the US title at Starrcade 1997, right? So why was one of their most over babyfaces, DDP, going to be left off the biggest WCW show ever? That's mind boggling.

 

Bam Bam Bigelow wrestled Tommy Rich at Clash 10 in June of 1990. How long was he in WCW for at the time?

 

Clash 13 had Big Cat d. Brad Armstrong...who was Big Cat?

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I remember Mero (sitting in the crowd) and Tank Abbott having a scuffle at ringside once, but that was the only time I saw him.

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So Ric Flair was supposed to face Curt Hennig originally for the US title at Starrcade 1997, right? So why was one of their most over babyfaces, DDP, going to be left off the biggest WCW show ever? That's mind boggling.

 

 

Same thing with Savage, the best they could do was have him as a suprise mystery partner replacing Konnan- imo they should've done Savage/DDP again, those matches were one of the highlights of WCW 97....

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Scott Hall was left off the card as well.

 

Edit: Hall/DDP could have been done since Hall cost DDP a few matches against Savage.

Edited by deancoles411

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Scott Hall was left off the card as well.

 

Edit: Hall/DDP could have been done since Hall cost DDP a few matches against Savage.

 

 

They even had Giant chokeslam Hall, couldn't they at the very least have a match between these two?

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Just a few quick questions:

 

1)Who was the Scandinavian wrestler, who I believe had an Olympic background, who wrestled for WCW around 94-95? Every match Tony would talk about how he was getting better and more used to working in a wrestling ring

 

2)How come Sick Boy and Reese were never seen again after the Flock disbanded? And was it ever explained how Scotty Riggs got his vision back before starting his "pretty boy" gimmick

 

3)Who was Ozzy, Daffney's boyfriend who was part of the "Crowbar fancies Daffney" storyline? What happened in that storyline, because I went to uni just after it started and I missed almost all of it

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Just a few quick questions:

 

1)Who was the Scandinavian wrestler, who I believe had an Olympic background, who wrestled for WCW around 94-95? Every match Tony would talk about how he was getting better and more used to working in a wrestling ring

 

2)How come Sick Boy and Reese were never seen again after the Flock disbanded? And was it ever explained how Scotty Riggs got his vision back before starting his "pretty boy" gimmick

 

3)Who was Ozzy, Daffney's boyfriend who was part of the "Crowbar fancies Daffney" storyline? What happened in that storyline, because I went to uni just after it started and I missed almost all of it

1)Frank Andersson, who was from Switzerland. I believe he got into some legal trouble and disappeared from the sport.

 

2)Sick Boy (Scott Vick) was under a WWE developmental deal for a while in the late 90's-early 00's. I believe he also recently resurfaced and did a dark match or two. No idea what happened to Reese.

 

3)Ozzy was Ashley Hudson, who made a few appearances on TNA as SEX's "Australian Champion". I don't believe they ever closed the book on that angle.

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Just a few quick questions:

 

1)Who was the Scandinavian wrestler, who I believe had an Olympic background, who wrestled for WCW around 94-95? Every match Tony would talk about how he was getting better and more used to working in a wrestling ring

 

2)How come Sick Boy and Reese were never seen again after the Flock disbanded? And was it ever explained how Scotty Riggs got his vision back before starting his "pretty boy" gimmick

 

3)Who was Ozzy, Daffney's boyfriend who was part of the "Crowbar fancies Daffney" storyline? What happened in that storyline, because I went to uni just after it started and I missed almost all of it

1)Who was the Scandinavian wrestler, who I believe had an Olympic background, who wrestled for WCW around 94-95? Every match Tony would talk about how he was getting better and more used to working in a wrestling ring

 

Frank Anderson. His matches were specifically for the European market. Even after a conviction in his native Sweden over GHB, WCW still used him.

 

2)How come Sick Boy and Reese were never seen again after the Flock disbanded? And was it ever explained how Scotty Riggs got his vision back before starting his "pretty boy" gimmick

 

I think Sick Boy and Reese just faded away, and I don't think Riggs' restored vision was ever explained.

 

3)Who was Ozzy, Daffney's boyfriend who was part of the "Crowbar fancies Daffney" storyline?

 

He was the lead singer, I think, of some minor rock band that did something with WCW. I don't remember the name of the band.

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