WCW facts, tidbits, and stuff people forgot

[Guest drdrainoscott]

Whatever happened to Ice Train after late 96? Didn't he come back towards the end of WCW as M.I. Smooth or something like that?

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Yup, that was him. He sued WCW with Sonny Ono for being racists and too prove that they weren't they re-hired him and gave Booker T the world title.

[Guest Fiscusalicious]

 

I vaguely remember on a Nitro in 2000 a match between Mike Modest and Christopher Daniels. I think it was a tryout for both of them. What ever became if this? I think Scott Steiner did a run in and destroyed them both, but why?

 

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I think there were plans for the Se7en gimmick at first, but the superbooker Vince Russo decided to turn it into a worked shoot.

 

Nothing became of it. Daniels was meant to wind up being the guy who turned Vampiro on Sting, but that got dropped. Why did Steiner run in and destroy them? Because WCW had an inability to let talented people get over without doing something to fuck it up.

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Actually, that match led to Daniel's being signed to a contract (I'm not sure about Modest, but he may have been as well). During the match, though, Daniel's broke his neck so he was shelved for a while. There were plans for him to be in Vampiro's stable with Muta as The Fallen Angel but he was released before he ever fully recovered from his injury. I have some old observer's covering this somewhere, and I think I remember reading that Daniel's actually appeared on screen with those two wearing a cloke and a hood so that nobody ever saw his face. Am I making this up?

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Actually, part of that is incorrect. Christopher Daniels has stated in various shoot interviews that he was not actually injured in the match. He suffered a stinger, but WCW was impressed with his ability to put on a good match even after the botched move. They were so impressed that they signed him to a contract. He was not actually injured, but the storyline at the end of the match is that Scott Steiner came in and broke both his and Modests' legs. Daniels was, in reality, perfectly fine. But he would have to wait an adequate amount of time until logically he could return to WCW from a broken leg. By the time he was set to make his return (and after the scrapping of the rumored plans with Vampiro), WCW was in sad financial shape..and from what I remember him saying, he was still under contract when WWE purchased WCW. They, obviously chose to void his contract, and that is all there is to the story.

 

He also said that he hates how everyone complains about the Steiner run-in on his match because that was the original plan, and he thought it was a great idea. The idea was to get more heat on Steiner because he was ending something that the crowd was really enjoying...and if it wasn't for that angle he wouldn't have been wrestling on Nitro that night.

[Guest drdrainoscott]

I didn't ever hear the story about the worked broken legs, so that is interesting. I do know for a fact, though, that Daniels was released before WCW was bought out. I remember the company released all of these workers making minimum salaries in an effort to cut losses instead of cutting a few of the higher paid wrestlers.

[JMFabiano524 0]

Anyone remember the story about Jeff Jarrett being brought in portraying Captain Planet????

[JoeDirt 0]

I figured these should be posted...

 

Quote #9

 

"It wasn't Bret Hart driving the monster truck nor was Sid in the car that was being run over, although both were the original plan. Hart was told what part of the car to drive over and where Sid would be in the car so as to not drive over him. Hart refused saying he wasn't an experienced stunt driver. There was no problem with his decision and he was apologized to for being asked" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 10, 2000.

 

Quote #10

 

"If you thought Starrcade was bad in English, it was worse in German. The German crew was in Washington DC live. The regular commentators were joined by comedian Tom Gerhardt, who was popular in Germany ten years ago because he used to go on stage dressed as a giant penis and pretend to ejaculate on the audience. He was doing heel commentary to get himself over, calling Disco Inferno gay, talking about Madusa having nice tits, and stood when Benoit made the open challenge to anyone and challenged him. This was all done to build a match where Gerhardt will wrestle Berlyn in Oberhausan, Germany on the WCW house show. German wrestler Ulf Hermann, upon hearing this news, issued a grandstand challenge." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 10, 2000.

 

Quote #11

 

"Kevin Nash missed the weekend house shows where he was scheduled to headline against Vicious claiming a concussion suffered allegedly when he was hit with the rubber crowbar by Arn Anderson" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 17, 2000

 

Quote #12

 

"Throughout the show, they (the NWO) were torturing Bret Hart. Nash was torturing Hart and in the background you could hear the director wrapping up the scene. The final scene saw Hart coming out with a pipe while covered in makeup to make it appear he'd been beaten up on. It was the same makeup they used for Arn Anderson, totally exposing that angle. Hart challenged the NWO guys to come out. Nash & Jarrett came out with bats. Then it got really silly. Hart was in a stand-off with Nash and Jarrett forever because Funk & Anderson arrived so late. Apparently live it was obvious Hart & Nash were having a hard time not laughing because the timing was so screwed up. Funk came out with a flaming branding iron and Anderson with a bucket of water. Anderson threw the bucket of water on Hart, with the idea that the makeup would run. The makeup didn't run, but the announcers had to sell that it did." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 24, 2000.

 

Quote #13:

 

"Kevin Nash then came out with a black girl, I guess to show that he is cool." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

 

Quote #14

 

"The Match (Kevin Nash vs. Sid) was in slow motion. Jarrett came in, but Sid got the guitar from him, clocked Nash with it and then laid on his back. The announcers were talking about how Sid was outsmarting everyone by pretending he was the one who got hit with the guitar. There were peices of the broken guitar surrounding Nash's body, including in his hair and a big peice on his chest, while there was no debris anywhere close to Sid" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 31, 2000.

 

Quote #15

 

"The only ratings question of the week was whether or not WCW Nitro would beat the Westminster Dog Show on the USA Network on 2/14. The answer was no" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 21, 2000.

 

Quote #16

 

"There was zero heat for Vicious vs. Jarrett. Earlier in the show Nash announced it as non-title. Jarrett demanded WCW overrule Nash and make it a title match. WCW announced it was a U.S. Title match. That made perfect sense, since the world champion should be challenging for the US belt. Jarrett hit Sid with a guitar shot which busted his head open hardway. Vicious said he got a concussion from the guitar shot. After the show, Vicious confronted Mark Madden and yelled at him. Madden made a remark about the three-way and said that Vicious may be the "monkey in the middle", which of course is a kids game. Vicious was told by someone that Madden called him a monkey and he was very upset about it. Madden tried to explain what he actually said but Sid, I guess with his head busted upon and groggy from the possible concussion and jetlagged from Germany, wasn't interested in hearing." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 21, 2000.

 

Quote #17

 

"In Philadelphia, apparently the hydraulics didn't work and The Demon was stuck in his coffin for about three minutes before they could get him out" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 21, 2000.

 

Quote #18

 

"A Tv Series starring Duggan called 'Biker's Court' was attempting to be sold for syndication at the NATPE convention last week. It was a worked cross between Judge Judy and Jerry Springer, with bikers as the jurors, a silicon implanted baliff and Duggan carrying his 2X4 as the judge. A typical episode is a midget smoker who is suing the tobacco companies claiming smoking stunted his growth and asking for compensation for a multimillion dollar NBA career that he didn't have" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 21, 2000.

 

Quote #19

 

"Big T defeated Booker T in a match for (the rights to) the letter 'T'. This was ungodly bad. Actually the former Ahmed Johnson in his now pregnant state actually 'carried' Booker T to maybe the worst match of his career. The lights went out, seemingly forever, teasing that Midnight was coming, with her music. Of course, she's not even in the company anymore." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 28, 2000.

 

Quote #20

 

"The crowd didn't care about this program and the stretcher aspect of the match was preposterous. Daffney did a hurricanrana and her blue wig flew off in the process. At one point they put David (Flair) on a stretcher and he was halfway to the back. He got off the stretcher, totally revived, and didn't sell it like he'd even been beaten. Finally they taped David to the stretcher and had to sell that David couldn't get off with this athletic tape that wasn't even holding. The bell rang for no reason. Crowbar got carried off in a stretcher with that ridiculous tape. The funny thing is that the stretchers had restrainers that could have locked the guys in that would have at least looked better than that silly athletic tape. Then they put Daffney in a wheelchair and taped her up. Her being taped was the silliest of the three in that the tape didn't hold but she still had to sell it." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 28, 2000.

 

Quote #21

 

"La Parka was reading the financial pages when Madusa propositioned him." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 28, 2000

 

Quote #22

 

"World Championship Wrestling had what was on paper its most successful weekend in at least a year, drawing three consecutive sellouts, largely with very enthusiastic fans in the United Kingdom. The reaction to the shows by the time they were over was typical of the WCW Shoot Yourself in the Foot Tour 2000. The main events all three nights were a disappointment. On the first night, they used Ric Flair vs. Curt Hennig on top. They had a good technical match that the crowd wasn't into, with lots of 'Goldberg' chants. After the match, Luger and Elizabeth did a run-in, leaving Bagwell to make the save and the show actually ended with Bagwell in the ring with his music playing, saying 'You didn't get Goldberg and you didn't get Sting, but you got Buff and he's the stuff.' Needless to say, the interview wasn't exactly well recieved by the audience. (The third show had) a hugley disappointing main event, headlined by local boxer "The Viking" Foster working as the outside the ring second ref for the Mamalukes tag title defense against the Harris Twins. The match had no heat and lots of missed spots with fans filing out as it was going on. Ron Harris actually grabbed the house mic and ripped on the fans for not caring about the match. Reports were the match was terrible. Foster, we're told, wasn't a big enough name to actually help sell tickets and most of the fans in attendance didn't even know who he was. The first night in Burmingham, Nash came out in a wheelchair...Nash was said to be embarassing, badly slurring his words. Vicious wasn't there, according to WCW sources it is because he's not allowed in the country. In London, Duggan got the crowd chanting 'USA'. in his match against UK wrestler David Finley" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 20, 2000.

 

Quote #23

 

"The Dog got loose from Knobbs and apparently he was drinking out of the toilet. I just saw him on his knees in the bathroom with Knobbs telling him to stop. It took several minutes before it was explained what he was actually doing. Dog wrestled Smiley. Smiley spanked the Dog before the match. After the match, Dog went after Scott Dikinson, with Mark Madden mentioning that Scott Dinkinson's full time job is a mailman (which is true). Dog tried to tree Smiley backstage after the match" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 20, 2000.

 

Quote #24

 

"Funk attacked Rhodes after the match, knocking him out with a loaded chicken" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 20, 2000.

 

Quote #25

 

"When Mark Madden told Arn Anderon how well recieved his segment was, Anderson replied by saying 'That must mean I'm going to get fired'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 20, 2000

 

Quote #26

 

"Luger and Elizabeth were apparently in a car accident before the show. Their rental car was said to have been hit by a bus. They did arrive and Luger was able to wrestle" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 20, 2000

 

Quote #27

 

"Douglas pinned him (Funk) and grabbed the belt. Mike Awesome beat Wall in a tables match. Awesome and Douglas started beating on Wall but DDP came out of the back of the ambulance and threw Awesome in the back and the ambulance took off. Then they went to a cutaway with Russo holding a casket with a bunch of New Blood members as pall bearers, including Douglas without a hair out of place and Awesome, in his regular clothes." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 29, 2000

 

Quote #28

 

"Madden was at this point told to get over about how WCW doesn't do schmazz finishes and cheap DQ's. Except for Wall vs. Awesome up to that point, there had been nothing but schmazz finishes" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 29, 2000

 

Quote #29

 

"Jarrett introduced Russo as the guy who turned the WWF around and called him Vince McMahon's best kept secret. Russo came out to the Road Warriors music. He talked about getting screwed by the good ol' boys while a great percentage of both the live and TV audience had no clue what he was talking about. Bischoff came out to tease a confrontation, but they hugged. They announced that all of the titles were vacated. When Sid was teasing he was going to hit Bischoff, Bischoff made a comment about Sid not having scissors. Bischoff was so clearly stunned that the crowd didn't react to the scissors line that he must have thought that they didn't hear it the first time, so he said it again, also to no reaction." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 17, 2000.

 

Quote #30

 

"On Nitro during the opening meeting (with Russo), everyone was supposed to act scared and somber, but you could see everyone biting their tongue because Brian Knobs' hair was set on fire by the pyro coming out" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 17, 2000

 

Quote #31

 

"You know things are bad when Schiavone starts swearing on the air" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 24, 2000

 

Quote #32

 

"They (DDP and Mike Awesome) were having a good match when Mark Madden said in the new WCW they were going to have winners and losers and the refs aren't going to be calling DQ's. Literally seconds later, Billy Silverman called the DQ." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 17, 2000

 

Quote #33

 

"Crowbar & Leroux & Moore beat Candido & Guerrera & Artist in 6:30. The Guerrera team kept having the match won, but a partner would break up the pin and cost his own team the match. This actually happened time after time. The announcers clearly weren't clued in, because nobody said a word nor were telling the story of the match. Sometimes when a partner made the save it was presented as if it was a member of the opposing team. Finally they came up with the explanation that the wrestlers are trying so hard to impress Russo and Bischoff that they are trying to make sure their team doesn't win. Crowbar pinned Candido after a gordbuster that was set up by Artist costing his team the match" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 24, 2000

 

Quote #34

 

"Meng speared a life sized poster of Goldberg. Meng used the poster to block Knobbs spraying him with a fire extinguisher. Meng then threw Knobbs off a 30-foot balcony" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 24, 2000

 

Quote #35

 

"Sting and Vampiro fought in a graveyard. Vampiro broke a tombstone over Sting's head and he fell into a grave. Offically, because Sting may have died, this match was ruled a no contest" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 08, 2000.

 

Quote #36

 

"The big finish was totally screwed up. The idea was that Jarrett and Page were to climb the scaffolding. Arquette would climb the scaffolding, hit Jarrett with the guitar, who would take the bump through the gimmicked part of the stage that they would fall through. When leaving the ring, by accident, Asya stepped on the set and fell through, so everyone could see that it was gimmicked. Arquette than ran out and apparently wasn't given directions as to what to avoid, and fell into the gimmicked part of the stage. So Jarrett and Page improvised up there with Page deciding to save the show and take the bump into what was already evident as the gimmicked hole in the stage. No idea at press time how this will be edited" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 08, 2000.

 

Quote #37

 

"When they made the stip where Flair got five minutes with Russo, Russo didn't sell it, and then said 'this is where I'm supposed to play chicken shit heel' to zero pop" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 08, 2000

 

Quote #38

 

"Terry Funk won a handicap match for the hardcore title over Norman Smiley and Ralphus. Most of the match was backstage with Ralphus, dressed in a catchers outfit with a catchers mask, just standing there. The height of the silliness was them (Funk and Smiley) throwing cardboard boxes at each other and selling it. Finally, Funk brought Ralphus in front of the curtain and into the ring, and unmasked him and pulled his pants down. Ralphus basically stood there with his BUTT showing...Ralphus by this time looked like he was going to have a heart attack" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 15, 2000

 

Quote #39

 

"Hogan did the first huricanrana of his career" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 15, 2000

 

Quote #40

 

"Russo and David were at Flair's home in Charlotte. (Russo) said that Reid was the favorite one and that David had to sleep in the garage and swim in a shark infested creek. Russo was jumping up and down on Flair's bed. " - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #41

 

"Madusa vs. Liz were supposed to have a cage match but Luger came out dressed as a cage repair man and saved Liz. Russo came out and hit Luger with a low blow, but he was wearing a cup so he no sold it and rubbed the cup in Russo's mouth. The security maced Luger. Palumbo attacked Luger with that 60's comic book twister deal. Awesome attacked Nash. Nash called him Eddie Money, who was a rock star probably when Nash was in college, and challenged him to an ambulance match. Scott Steiner went outside for a street fight with Tank and Rick. The Goldberg monster truck made the save. Nash nearly killed Awesome with the greatest power bomb in the sport. Just before Awesome faced sure paralysis, DDP made the save to help Nash do the move before he dropped the guy on his head. The (ambulance) match ended with Awesome never put in the ambulance." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #42

 

"It has been made clear to everyone that Hogan is 'the man' and in all angles has to be treated as such...Hogan vs. Hogan (Horace vs. Hulk) started with Kidman yelling at Horace about (Torrie) Wilson, who he came out with. Horace beat up Kidman and went to the ring with Wilson. Horace went to kiss Wilson when Kidman came out again. Hulk then throws Kidman over the top rope through a table and pins Horace. Hulk then kissed Torrie Wilson. Of course she liked it and walked out on both Kidman and Horace." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #43

 

"During the commerical, they soaked the ropes with gasoline. Sting came out, then Vampiro came out and called him Steve, and said they would have an inferno match on the PPV. Sting said that's nuts and he isn't going to do it. At this point the ropes were supposed to set on fire but they didn't. The fans started laughing and booing," - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #44

 

"Funk came out with chickens on both hands like they were boxing gloves" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #45

 

"They built to a spot where Vampiro acted like he was going to bite the head off Sting's crow but Sting made the save. After being beaten up, Vampiro started laughing. Vampiro was making reference to 'Steve Borden' not wanting to work. When Sting pounded on him, he called Vampiro 'Ian'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #46

 

"David (Flair) did an interview. It was weird because he was bragging about his long-legged blonde girlfriend and having a Corvette to show he hasn't done badly for himself (his real-life fiancé is Stacy Keibler), which was strange since Daffney was right there as a medium-legged brunette who is supposed to be his girlfriend, but not only that, earlier in this very same show he asked her to marry him." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #47

 

"Russo then came out to confront Nash, and basically tried to take 100% of the credit for creating the 'Diesel' character that made Nash a star. Blood fell from the ceiling, most of which fell several feet to the side of Nash and much of which fell on front row spectators." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

Quote #48

 

"Tank Abbot has been asked by management to take singing lessons" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 11, 2000

 

Quote #49

 

"Russo wanted to be dragged behind the (monster) truck through the desert by Goldberg but the higher ups nixed the angle. Russo was very upset about this" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 11, 2000

 

Quote #50

 

"They did a segment claiming Russo had suffered a blood clot to the brain and needed emergency brain surgery" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 11, 2000

 

Quote #51

 

"Some notes from 9/12 in Roanoke for the Thunder tapings. Hayabusa was there but was only going to be put on World Wide against The Frog." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 11, 2000

 

Quote #52

 

"The Thrillers went back to the Power Plant. They all attacked Mike Graham. That was funny because Graham leg dives Sanders and put him in a figure four, and when there are six guys ready to jump you, the best thing to do is run, and the worst thing to do is to take one guy to the ground and let the other five stomp the hell out of you. They attacked Orndorff, who in every camera shot posed titled so his good arm, which he clearly had pumped up before taping, was right in front of the camera" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: September 18, 2000

 

Quote #53

 

"In a meet and greet in Sydney, Australia, Chae (Nitro girl) was asked if she was dating Kevin Nash. She said that she was. Kevin Nash a few weeks back on TV said he was going out after the show to 'eat a little Korean' so I guess that publicly puts one and one together" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 16, 2000

 

Quote #54

 

"A fan hit Goldberg with a cardboard Star of David" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 16, 2000

 

Quote #55

 

"In a segment said to be hilarious live, (Elix) Skipper was talking trash and challenging Goldberg. Goldberg came out behind Skipper. Skipper keeps turning and Goldberg keeps adjusting his position so Skipper can't see him. All of this is on the big screen, which Skipper is looking right at, and can see Goldberg behind him, but because they didn't consider this when making the angle, he had to pretend" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 23, 2000

 

Quote #56

 

"CNN ran a special on Goldberg on 10/22. They showed Vince Russo and the booking team talking about a Nitro where Bill Goldberg would get revenge on Scott Steiner. Russo had an idea that Steiner would be in the dressing room bleaching his mustache and Goldberg would pour Clorox down Steiner's throat. Ed Ferrara noted that you don't bleach a mustache with Clorox. He then said they could use bleach instead."- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: October 30, 2000

 

Quote #57

 

"This (Awesome vs. Vampiro) was the most blown spots in a PPV match dating back to the legendarily bad Sandman vs. Sabu match on the ECW show in Pittsburgh a few years back. The match fell apart in the crowd. They were brawling, and Vampiro grabbed a crutch from someone at ringside. The guy who they took the crutch from then attacked Awesome and tried to head BUTT him. Vampiro and Awesome threw punches at him and both were so freaked out that the match completely fell apart." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 06, 2000

 

Quote #58

 

"Buff Bagwell did an interview before the PPV with Alex Marvez. Regarding his attempt over the summer to go to the WWF, he said that on the New Blood Rising PPV, Kanyon was supposed to beat him and take Judy Bagwell as his valet. He said it was Russo's idea, (and) that nobody but Russo liked the idea. He said he asked Kanyon 'Are you sure you want my mother as your f---in valet?'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 06, 2000

 

Quote #59

 

"Ray wasn't thrilled with Madden calling Jindrak & O'Haire the 'White Harlem Heat'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 06, 2000

 

Quote #60

 

"Luger ripped on Mark Madden to start the show. Seems that Luger was mad at Madden for saying his bodyfat percentage has gone up. He made fun of Madden's physique in an unscripted segment Madden didn't know anything about. Luger then brought out Ross Foreman and yelled at him for not having any photos of him in WCW Magazine" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: November 13, 2000

 

Quote #61

 

"On the 12/4 Nitro (where wrestlers were told to stop mentioning Scott Hall), when the crowd was chanting 'We Want Hall' during the DDP & Nash vs. 3 Count match, on the closed captioning, it read, 'We Want Hall'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 18, 2000

 

Quote #62

 

"DDP asked Sanders to deliver the line in a promo saying DDP may be 45, but he looks 35 and wrestles like he's 25. The line wasn't delivered, because it makes no sense for a heel to say that. However, it has been repeated backstage as a source of comedy." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: December 25, 2000

 

Quote #63

 

"The 12/18 Nitro was supposed to practically be built around Rick Steiner as the surprise guy, but he wasn't there because they forgot to tell him" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 01, 2001

 

Quote #64

 

"Kaz Hayashi & Yun Yang beat Jamie Knoble & Evan Karagias in 9:21 in the show stealer. You know it had to be WCW with the graphic reading Jamie Karagias and Evan Knoble as they came to the ring" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 22, 2001

 

Quote #65

 

"Meng pinned Bigelow in a bad match. Highlight was said to be Bigelow throwing Meng's boot at the announcers and Tenay catching it" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 22, 2001

 

Quote #66

 

"Jimmy Hart was hospitalized with a kidney stone, which was dislodged when a female DJ gave him a low blow at the Minneanapolis Thunder" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 22, 2001

 

Quote #67

 

"Beginning this week, Nitro is going head-to-head with Thunder in Australia" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 22, 2001

 

Quote #68

 

"Scott Steiner was arrested from an incident at the TV tapings the night before which ended up being edited off television. They were doing a stretcher job deal and Steiner started kicking one of the EMT's, apparently thinking they weren't real EMT's. As it turned out, they used real EMT's, and one of them decided to press (police) charges" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 29, 2001

 

Quote #69

 

"Chavo Jr. & Animal beat Misterio Jr. & Kidman. Schiavone was waiting all day for the line talking about Misterio Jr. wrestling in Mexico, and then said, Mexico is bordered to the south by Guatemala, not Nicaragua, as everybody knows. For the other three million viewers who don't have any idea why he said this, it's because 11 years ago, there was this guy who did a wrestling newsletter named Steve Beverly who had the ear of a guy at TBS named Jeff Carr. Carr made the call that WCW Saturday Night should only have one host, and it was Ross. Schiavone was so mad he went to the WWF for several years. He's hated Beverly ever since. Anyway, last week on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire', a contestant was asked what country bordered Mexico to the south and called Beverly for a lifeline and Beverly said Nicaragua and his friend hesitated, but went with Beverly's pick, and was wrong." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 05, 2001

 

Quote #70

 

"Schiavone in his silly statement of the week after Misterio Jr. did some flying move and then spun around, compared him with Bugsy McGraw, who for those who weren't around in that era, was just about the worst wrestler in captivity. It would be the equivalent of Jim Ross comparing Kurt Angle to Tiger Chung Lee" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 12, 2001

 

Quote #71

 

"In a TV commercial in the Nashville market for the 2/18 PPV, the voiceover really says 'expect a night of run-ins'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 12, 2001

 

Quote #72

 

"...some of the strangest camera work, including a shot of a door which seemed to have no real purpose" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 05, 2001

 

Quote #73

 

"Kanyon then started attacking the mop. Fans chanted for Cat to save the mop from a bad beating, and Cat in fact did so" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 05, 2001

 

Quote #74

 

"They showed a limo pulling up to the arena and the announcers referenced a limo pulling into the arena. Then they cut to a shot inside the limo of Stasiak and Kanyon and in the conversation they talked about arriving at the hospital" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 12, 2001

 

Quote #75

 

"The main event on the show, believe it or not, was Flair kissing a donkey" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 26, 2001

 

Quote #76

 

"Ace (had) an exchange with Luger. Luger compared himself to a Ferrari and said that if you keep hitting a Ferrari with a sledge hammer, pretty soon it's worthless. Ace's reaction was something to the effect of having no idea what it meant" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 26, 2001

 

Quote #77

 

"When names were read off of employees given their various termination notices, Tony Schiavone, when his name was read off by people in Human Resources in WCW, they pronounced it 'Tony Skee-a-vone'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 09, 2001

 

Quote #78

 

"They had La Parka on the ground and drew those chalk lines around him, except he was still laying there. Gene uttered the immortal line to Juvi as he was talking Spanish, 'Don't talk Mexican to me'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 18, 1999

 

Quote #79

 

"There was a ton of heat on Luger and Giant for the deal they pulled at the 1/5 tapings in Gainesville, GA. Giant came out in his jeans, not even getting dressed, for his main event with Luger. They got in the ring and Giant just lied down and both laughed." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 18, 1999

 

Quote #80

 

"Ralphus reminds me of Chumley the Walrus on the old Tennessee Tuxedo cartoon show" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 25, 1999

 

Quote #81

 

"Poor Tony Schiavone had announced earlier in the show that Kidman and Misterio Jr had won the coin flip and would start. Then, when Guerrera's music was second, he said that Guerrera must have won the coin flip and he and Kidman would start. And then Misterio started with Kidman. The fans started chanting "USA". Schiavone then explained, and I'm not making this up, how the rules of the match make no sense and there is no logic in ever tagging out under these rules. When Rey and Kidman wanted to tag out, Psicosis and Guerrera acted like they didn't want to get in the ring. Since nothing made any sense, they just had a great match" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 25 1999

 

Quote #82

 

"Hart did this Mexican spot where he faked getting a low blow and started selling his groin. Schiavone said Piper kicked him low. Heenan, who knew the spot, said he didn't think so. Schiavone, when he figured out what the angle was, said only an idiot like Heenan would say that he kicked him in the groin when he didn't." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 15, 1999

 

Quote #83

 

"Michael Buffer came out for absolutely no reason. See, he was there to announce the main event. But get this, there was no main event. Flair, at this moment, fell out of the turnip truck, grabbed a hoe and kept falling down" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 22, 1999

 

"Nitro may have been the worst episode of the show in history. They showed so many clips of Scott Steiner and Kimberly and Ric Flair and Bret Hart and Roddy Piper that I thought I was having nightmares about having been a horrible human being and being sent to Hell, and when I got there, I was sent to a room with all the evil wrestling promoters past and present and they made me sit in the chair next to people like Fritz Von Erich, Herb Abrams and Nick Gulas and forced us to watch Nitro episodes like this 24 hours a day."

 

Quote #84

 

"Scott Hall was run over after the PPV. He was outside a bar and fell down. Wes Benton, a WCW employee, didn't see him behind him and backed out, and heard a scream. Benton stopped the car, which was on top of Hall's ankle. He realized and moved the car off the ankle. It was nothing serious." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 01, 1999

 

Quote #85

 

"The show began with Disco, Jericho and Johnny Swinger wearing sombreros and making racial remarks. Problem was the crowd was 70% Anglo. They started stomping the sombreros and calling the crowd wetbacks, and it went downhill from there. Silver King, who was doing a cowboy gimmick, had been learning rope tricks and apparently trying them in the ring, somehow wound up by accident nearly tying himself up with his own rope" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 08, 1999.

 

Quote #86

 

"There was some heat on Hogan calling the camera man a 'jiggly, jiggly, jew' on Nitro, but eveidently not enough for the segment not to have been replayed on every show during the week" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 15, 1999

 

Quote #87

 

"In a spot that aired twice on the show, they aired a promo for Nitro that had never aired before, (featuring) Sean Waltman who hasn't been with the company for a year" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 22, 1999

 

Quote #88

 

"Raven used an oar to Bigelow's groin" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 22, 1999

 

Quote #89

 

"WCW Legal Affairs sent a letter to Chuck Black of Lethal Records complaining about a CD called 'hWo Harlem World Order'. Lethal Records then claimed that investigating trademarks for New World Order uncovered nothing having to do with WCW, but a registration for clothing by a gay clothing line (Brawn of California) that has been used since 1992" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 29, 1999

 

Quote #90

 

"Hart and Bischoff tried to work the people and the wrestlers backstage that the angle was a shoot as they argued backstage with no cameras on in front of the wrestlers, but Bischoff has done that so often now that the wrestlers consider it a pathetic joke and no one bought it" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 05, 1999

 

Quote #91

 

"Ricky Rachmann has signed a contract. The first week he was on live, the first words out of his mouth were how he didn't know much about wrestling" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 05, 1999

 

Quote #92

 

"Goldberg was originally scheduled against Bigelow., who is out with minor elbow surgery. They had planned to do the first ever Goldberg vs. (Bret) Hart match as a replacement however things got screwed up. Hart was in Toronto doing promotion for Nitro and was supposed to get picked up and taken to the airport. His ride never came." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 05, 1999

 

Quote #93

 

"There will be an open change on WCW Saturday Night to go along with all the visual changes on Nitro. The changes in Nitro remind me of putting a nice, fresh coat of paint on a house that had just been hit by a Tornado" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #95

 

"The plan was for Stevie Ray to win and rename the (nWo) Black & White into a new group that would be a modern version of The Black Panthers. That's a thirty year old term, and Adams and Horace are white" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #96

 

"Raven & Saturn did an interview where they talked about being friends in high school and both liked Beulah McGillicuddy. Saturn said, 'That was Tommy'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #97

 

"Chris Benoit was on FAN in Toronto and asked if he thought that there was a conspiracy to destroy the company from within. He said 'It appears that way'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #98

 

"WCW took out a huge ad in USA Today with the new logo which read "Looks like something a bird left on the hood of my car", and never mentioned wrestling once" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #99

 

"Wrestlers are making bets backstage over who will be the first to trip on the new set" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #100

 

"WCW ordered a ton of new business card, stationary etc. with the new logo and the address on all the cards spelled 'Altanta'." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #101

 

"Leia Meow was jumping up and down on a trampoline wearing a bikini top, but her implants were so hardened that the whole visual image didn't work. Isn't it amazing that pro wrestling has now come to analyzing the work of plastic surgeons?" - Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Jan. 10, 2000

 

Quote #102

 

"NWO continued their 72 hours of torture on Arn Anderson. At this point, they had him watch every Nitro since April in a row and were starting to threaten him with Thunders." - Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Jan. 10, 2000

 

Quote #101

"Flair was committed (to a mental hospital on Nitro Monday). On Thursday's Thunder they announce he's out of the mental hospital and backstage making changes on the card. On Sunday he wrestles in Minneapolis. But on Monday, one week later, he's been in the nut house for the entire week and still there, running around in the same underwear like he never left" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 03, 1999

 

Quote #102

"They showed Hogan going in for knee surgery. Hogan was walking into the hospital, not selling it" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 03, 1999

 

Quote #103

"WCW is coming out with Goldberg, Hogan, Savage and Sting Air Fresheners. And Nash. The company that is marketing them wanted the first four. WCW begged them to include Nash." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999

 

Quote #104

"A new-look Ricky Rachmann interviewed a NASCAR driver" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999

 

Quote #105

"Flair showed up with the mental patients and a roided up girl, and was nearly the first casualty of the ramp" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999

 

Quote #106

"Barry Windham is actually out of action because he's having liposuction on his gut" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999

 

Quote #107

"Goldberg was on QVC and when asked abut what he's doing in the future, he said he really doesn't know because they don't tell him anything" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999

 

Quote #108

"Misterio beat Juventud Guerrerra with fans chanting 'DUI' at Guerrera" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 10, 1999

 

Quote #109

 

"Flair is about to be dropped from the Time Magazine Man of the Century internet balloting where he is currently in second place behind Jesus Christ. More than 20 million people have voted, making it the biggest web poll in history, with Flair getting more than 310,000 votes as of 3/31. Flair is being dropped because Janice Castro, the editor of Time.com, said his showing is due to unfair lobbying from wrestling web sites. Jesus is about to go down as well, as religious organizations have gotten members to flood the ballot box too. Time.com is planning an exit strategy, however with the God of wrestling and the Son of God removed, the big winner in the poll appears to be Adolf Hitler, who would become the front runner" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #110

 

"They traded hard garbage can shots. Tony Schiavone in his infinite retardedness killed those by saying that they sounded great but really don't hurt. After Schiavone explained how the garbage can shots don't hurt, Bigelow went out and killed Hak dead with a wicked shot. Schiavone then (again) said it made a great noise , but didn't hurt as bad as it sounded" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

Quote #111

 

"In an employees meeting the week before the Vegas show, Bischoff told everyone that because of the new set, graphics, open and music, Nitro would do a 7.0" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 19, 1999

[King Kamala 0]

Just thought I'd shill my fantasy booking work at another forum, check out the WCW 2000 threads on Graham's forum done by yours truly.

 

http://www.historyofwwe.ipbfree.com/index.php?showforum=20

 

Feedback for any of them would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

[Guest jm29195]

Good stuff, I figure if I make it to 2000 it should be really easy to book because they had all the right talent, they just kept doing really stupid stuff all the time with them!

[King Kamala 0]

I highly highly highly doubt that WCW could have a comeback in 2000. However, I think they could have gotten a consistant audience who wants an alternative to the WWF instead of having their ratings crashing to NHLesque ratings.

[Guest jm29195]

I highly highly highly doubt that WCW could have a comeback in 2000. However, I think they could have gotten a consistant audience who wants an alternative to the WWF instead of having their ratings crashing to NHLesque ratings.

 

 

 

I don't think that WCW could have made a comeback to 97 levels in 2000, but I do think that with the right booking and strategy, they could have stopped the huge flow of cash that was pouring out of the promotion and at least stabilized the situation....

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Those quotes from Meltzer are freaking great. I'm convinced that if Russo had been allowed to stay as booker, someone would have been killed eventually in one of his Hollywood imitation stunts.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Holy shit. I just sat here for something like twenty minutes reading all those with absolute glee.

 

That's why I loved watching WCW. It was such a trainwreck that the trash on screen, and not the actual wrestling (most of the time), was the entertainment.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Btw, are there any more of those quote anywhere? Those are too funny.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Those quotes from Meltzer are freaking great. I'm convinced that if Russo had been allowed to stay as booker, someone would have been killed eventually in one of his Hollywood imitation stunts.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Check a few pages into the thread. The idea to fake the death of a top name was floated around, but then the Owen Hart deal happened, and the idea was scrapped.

[cabbageboy 0]

I loved the quote about Bischoff saying the new look Nitro would do a 7.0. The hilarious thing is that I remember reading that at the time and they never really hyped that they were changing the set! One week on TV DDP and Hogan had a match and destroyed the old set...and then the next week they just kinda debuted the new set with little fanfare. I doubt they'd have done a 7.0 anyway but shouldn't they have hyped this new look?

[The Mandarin 0]

"WCW took out a huge ad in USA Today with the new logo which read "Looks like something a bird left on the hood of my car", and never mentioned wrestling once" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: April 12, 1999

 

 

Those quotes were brilliant.

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Early word has the May 19th 1990 NWA PPV from the D.C. Armory featuring Lex

Luger vs. Ric Flair for the title in a cage match. Thank god they

ditched the hair vs. hair idea - this could ruin either man. We can

still expect some sort of twist to this match - no doubt Sting will be

present in some way, shape, or form.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

Quote #75

 

"The main event on the show, believe it or not, was Flair kissing a donkey" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 26, 2001

 

 

 

BAHAHAHA

[Jericholic82 0]

Quote #75

 

"The main event on the show, believe it or not, was Flair kissing a donkey" - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: March 26, 2001

 

 

 

BAHAHAHA

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It's funny cuz it's true

[Matt Young 0]

Quote #47

 

"Russo then came out to confront Nash, and basically tried to take 100% of the credit for creating the 'Diesel' character that made Nash a star. Blood fell from the ceiling, most of which fell several feet to the side of Nash and much of which fell on front row spectators." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: May 22, 2000

 

I was there in the 2nd row and I got my new "Slap Nuts" t-shirt covered in "blood".

[Richard 0]

Early word has the May 19th 1990 NWA PPV from the D.C. Armory featuring Lex

  Luger vs. Ric Flair for the title in a cage match.  Thank god they

  ditched the hair vs. hair idea - this could ruin either man.  We can

  still expect some sort of twist to this match - no doubt Sting will be

  present in some way, shape, or form.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Herb Kunze?

[Guest cjsheelsfan]

Sabu did have a match in WCW. I think it was Nitro and came out with the Shiek and threw a fireball after the match and I never saw him in WCW again. I remember because I flipped out when he came out.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Sabu did have a match in WCW. I think it was Nitro and came out with the Shiek and threw a fireball after the match and I never saw him in WCW again. I remember because I flipped out when he came out.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The match you're talking about was his match at Halloween Havoc in 1995 against Mr JL. The fireball was down to Sheik going into business for himself, so if you think you flipped out over it, imagine what WCW's reaction was.

 

And just to bring a forgotten fact about WCW to this post, Sabu found out he was fired by calling up the WCW hotline.

[Guest *KNK*]

Did Eric Bischoff purposely come up with sick ways to fire people or did it just come naturally?

 

Hotline announcement...

FedEx...

 

anymore?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

He did have his secretary call Steve Austin to tell him to call Eric so Eric could tell him over the phone he was fired. Firing someone over the phone is bad enough, but Austin was only about a 30 minute drive from where the WCW office was.

 

Eric also fired Ole Anderson over the phone the day after he was face-to-face with him.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

The running theme? Eric was too gutless to fire people in person or to their face.

[Guest Ice Classic V.2]

"The match you're talking about was his match at Halloween Havoc in 1995 against Mr JL."

 

Wasn't Mr. JL, Jerry Lynn?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

"The match you're talking about was his match at Halloween Havoc in 1995 against Mr JL."

 

Wasn't Mr. JL, Jerry Lynn?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes. Quite the braintrust they had in WCW to come up with a name like that.

[Nightfall 0]

When Mr. J.L. first came to WCW, I thought it was Jushin Lyger in some lame ass new gimmick. Then my older brother said that it was Jerry Lynn. I had no idea who he was at the time, I was pretty young then. I'm 21 now, so do the math.

 

God, I wish I would have used the net back then for wrestling like my bro did, I know I missed a lot of good stuff. I can read posts about old stuff forever.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Sabu wrestled Alex Wright on Nitro and lost via DQ

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Yep...he was DQed for putting him through a table, IIRC.