Guest goatfish Posted November 14, 2004 Report Posted November 14, 2004 1. Carlos Beltran - Yankees 2. Adrian Beltre - Dodgers 3. Brad Radke - Twins 4. Edgar Renteria - Cubs 5. Pedro Martinez - Red Sox 6. Carlos Delgado - Mariners 7. Magglio Ordonez - Mets 8. Jason Varitek - Dodgers 9. Carl Pavano - Red Sox 10. Richie Sexson - Diamondbacks 11. J.D. Drew - Braves 12. Nomar Garciaparra - Angels 13. Troy Glaus - Red Sox (some rumblings up here about him signing and being converted to 1B) 14. Armando Benitez - Giants 15. Odalis Perez - Cardinals 16. Troy Percival - Cubs 17. Matt Clement - Yankees 18. Orlando Cabrera - Cardinals 19. Jeff Kent - Cubs 20. Moises Alou - Dodgers And for bonus points, here are five players frequently mentioned in trade talks. Are they traded, and if so, where? 1. Sammy Sosa - Yes, Mets 2. Randy Johnson - Hmmm......No, if you mean by the start of next season. Probably will be in midseason though. 3. Kevin Brown - No 4. Charles Johnson - No 5. Jose Guillen - Yes......Mets Finally, does Roger Clemens retire? Yes, but then he unretires because his 4 little kids begin to cry because they have always wanted to see him play close to home. He then signs with the Texas Rangers, wins 19 games, ESPN goes "What a great story" and he takes a giant piss on every franchise he's ever played for. Roger Clemens, sucessfully uniting Sox and Yankee fans on one issue.
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted November 14, 2004 Report Posted November 14, 2004 1. Carlos Beltran (Houston) 2. Adrian Beltre (Seattle) 3. Brad Radke (St. Louis) 4. Edgar Renteria (St. Louis) 5. Pedro Martinez (Anaheim) 6. Carlos Delgado (Toronto) 7. Magglio Ordonez (Los Angles) 8. Jason Varitek (Boston) 9. Carl Pavano (Boston) 10. Richie Sexson (Seattle) 11. J.D. Drew (Atlanta) 12. Nomar Garciaparra (ChiCubs) 13. Troy Glaus (Texas) 14. Armando Benitez (Baltimore) 15. Odalis Perez (Philadelphia) 16. Troy Percival (ChiCubs) 17. Matt Clement(New York Yankees) 18. Orlando Cabrera (Boston) 19. Jeff Kent (New York Yankees) 20. Moises Alou (Detroit) 1. Sammy Sosa (No. Too much of a headache and salary killer. He'll get benched for the majority of season) 2. Randy Johnson (Yes. St. Louis) 3. Kevin Brown (Yes. Atlanta) 4. Charles Johnson (No.) 5. Jose Guillen (San Fran. They'll take his potential blowups risk for his talent) Roger goes for another go. and he kicks ass again despite what most here want and think he can.
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted November 14, 2004 Report Posted November 14, 2004 1. Carlos Beltran (Houston) 2. Adrian Beltre (Seattle) 3. Brad Radke (St. Louis) 4. Edgar Renteria (St. Louis) 5. Pedro Martinez (Anaheim) 6. Carlos Delgado (Toronto) 7. Magglio Ordonez (Los Angles) 8. Jason Varitek (Boston) 9. Carl Pavano (Boston) 10. Richie Sexson (Seattle) 11. J.D. Drew (Atlanta) 12. Nomar Garciaparra (ChiCubs) 13. Troy Glaus (Texas) 14. Armando Benitez (Baltimore) 15. Odalis Perez (Philadelphia) 16. Troy Percival (ChiCubs) 17. Matt Clement(New York Yankees) 18. Orlando Cabrera (Boston) 19. Jeff Kent (New York Yankees) 20. Moises Alou (Detroit) 1. Sammy Sosa (No. Too much of a headache and salary killer. He'll get benched for the majority of season) 2. Randy Johnson (Yes. St. Louis) 3. Kevin Brown (Yes. Atlanta) 4. Charles Johnson (No.) 5. Jose Guillen (San Fran. They'll take his potential blowups risk for his talent) Roger goes for another go. and he kicks ass again despite what most here want and think he can.
Mik Posted November 14, 2004 Report Posted November 14, 2004 I don't think Alex Gonzalez is that terrible. He's not very reliable, but that's why he hits in the 8 hole. Anytime you can get 20 HRs out of your 8 spot hitter, that's not all bad. As for Cristian Guzman, I did not even think about him or know he was available. That would be a good pickup, but I don't see it happening.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted November 14, 2004 Author Report Posted November 14, 2004 I don't think Alex Gonzalez is that terrible. He's not very reliable, but that's why he hits in the 8 hole. Anytime you can get 20 HRs out of your 8 spot hitter, that's not all bad. In my view, a .270 OBP is unacceptable no matter how many home runs a player hits. Remember, outs are the backbone of the game. Over any other factor, teams that use outs more sparingly are more likely to score runs. Alex Gonzalez made outs at a higher percentage than any hitter in the Majors. That's a tremendous obstacle, and 23 home runs does not cut it. With Gonzalez, followed by the pitcher, the Marlins were essentially giving up entire innings of offense. They cannot continue to do that and still compete for a title.
Mik Posted November 14, 2004 Report Posted November 14, 2004 I see your point, Al. It appears as though I was also deceived by his win share data. I noticed that he ranked 7th, but then I looked at those below him and it included Nomar and Orlando Cabrera and it did not sink in at first that they were half-season data. The only regular player below him that I don't think is terrible or past his prime (Barry Larkin) is Kaz Matsui. You're correct. But, I'm not going to conceed just yet. He does make a lot of outs, but this statline: .232, 23 HR, 79 RBI is better than a lot of shortstops. He's contributing SOMETHING, which is more than can be said of Juan Encarnacion.
Styles Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 1. Carlos Beltran-Yankees 2. Adrian Beltre-Angels 3. Brad Radke-Twins 4. Edgar Renteria-Red Sox 5. Pedro Martinez-Red Sox 6. Carlos Delgado-Orioles 7. Magglio Ordonez-Orioles 8. Jason Varitek-Red Sox 9. Carl Pavano-Orioles 10. Richie Sexson-Mariners 11. J.D. Drew-Braves 12. Nomar Garciaparra-Cubs 13. Troy Glaus-Mets 14. Armando Benitez-White Sox 15. Odalis Perez-Phillies 16. Troy Percival-Indians 17. Matt Clement-Yankees 18. Orlando Cabrera-Cardinals 19. Jeff Kent-Yankees 20. Moises Alou-White Sox And for bonus points, here are five players frequently mentioned in trade talks. Are they traded, and if so, where? 1. Sammy Sosa-no. 2. Randy Johnson-yes, Yankees. 3. Kevin Brown-yes, Diamondbacks 4. Charles Johnson-yes, Mets 5. Jose Guillen-yes, Tigers Finally, does Roger Clemens retire? No, resigns with Astros.
The Man in Blak Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 1. Carlos Beltran - Yankees 2. Adrian Beltre - Dodgers 3. Brad Radke - Orioles 4. Edgar Renteria - Cardinals 5. Pedro Martinez - Yankees 6. Carlos Delgado - Blue Jays 7. Magglio Ordonez - Mets 8. Jason Varitek - Red Sox 9. Carl Pavano - Red Sox 10. Richie Sexson - Mariners 11. J.D. Drew - White Sox 12. Nomar Garciaparra - Angels 13. Troy Glaus - Marlins 14. Armando Benitez - Cubs 15. Odalis Perez - White Sox 16. Troy Percival - Braves 17. Matt Clement - Cardinals 18. Orlando Cabrera - Red Sox 19. Jeff Kent - Cubs 20. Moises Alou - Pirates And for bonus points, here are five players frequently mentioned in trade talks. Are they traded, and if so, where? 1. Sammy Sosa - No. 2. Randy Johnson - Angels 3. Kevin Brown - Braves 4. Charles Johnson - No. 5. Jose Guillen - Marlins Finally, does Roger Clemens retire? Nope, resigns with Astros.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted November 18, 2004 Author Report Posted November 18, 2004 22 picks, and not one poster predicted Troy Percival to the Tigers. Just goes to show how random this process can be sometimes.
Precious Roy Posted November 18, 2004 Report Posted November 18, 2004 1. Carlos Beltran - Yankees 2. Adrian Beltre - The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 3. Brad Radke - Phillies 4. Edgar Renteria - Red Sox 5. Pedro Martinez - Red Sox 6. Carlos Delgado - Atlanta 7. Magglio Ordonez - San Diego 8. Jason Varitek - Red Sox 9. Carl Pavano - Yankees 10. Richie Sexson - Arizona 11. J.D. Drew - Dodgers 12. Nomar Garciaparra - Cubs 13. Troy Glaus - Dodgers 14. Armando Benitez - Giants 15. Odalis Perez - The HATED Red Sox 16. Troy Percival - Tigers (Mwahuahah) 17. Matt Clement - Orioles 18. Orlando Cabrera - Seattle 19. Jeff Kent - Houston 20. Moises Alou - Washington 21. Derek Lowe - The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 1. Sammy Sosa - Yes, Baltimore, where all roided up nutcases go to die (RIP Albert Belle) 2. Randy Johnson - Yes, St. Louis 3. Kevin Brown - No 4. Charles Johnson - Yes, Washington 5. Jose Guillen - No Finally, does Roger Clemens retire? No.
Bored Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 And for bonus points, here are five players frequently mentioned in trade talks. Are they traded, and if so, where? 5. Jose Guillen - Expos/Nationals Sweet, I was the only one that had Guillen going to Washington. Now watch that be the only pick I get right.
Fökai Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 Gut feelings on these... 1. Carlos Beltran - Astros 2. Adrian Beltre - Dodgers 3. Brad Radke - Twins 4. Edgar Renteria- Cardinals, I guess. 5. Pedro Martinez - Red Sox 6. Carlos Delgado - Mariners 7. Magglio Ordonez - Orioles 8. Jason Varitek - Wants an insane contract with a no-trade clause...hmm...Mets. 9. Carl Pavano - Red Sox 10. Richie Sexson - Angels 11. J.D. Drew - Braves 12. Nomar Garciaparra - Cubs 13. Troy Glaus - Tigers 14. Armando Benitez - Marlins 15. Odalis Perez - Orioles 17. Matt Clement - Blue Jays 18. Orlando Cabrera - Angels 19. Jeff Kent - Tigers 20. Moises Alou - White Sox And for bonus points, here are five players frequently mentioned in trade talks. Are they traded, and if so, where? 1. Sammy Sosa - Mets 2. Randy Johnson - White Sox. 3. Kevin Brown - Braves. 4. Charles Johnson - Athletics.
Styles Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 Um, i think Troy Percival should be removed from any lists posted from here on since it doesn't take much predictive ability to name the team he just signed with! Anyway, I'm really curious, as a die hard Orioles fan who follows the rumors in the papers and the message boards every day, where are all of you getting Odalis Perez to Baltimore from? Is it just one guy predicted it and the rest of you didn't really know where he'd sign so just assumed Baltimore too? We are likely looking for a starting pitcher, the ones I've heard will be the biggest targets are Carl Pavano, Derek Lowe and Erik Milton with Brad Radke and Matt Clement also getting some mention. I haven't heard Perez mentioned at all I don't think.
Styles Posted November 19, 2004 Report Posted November 19, 2004 1. Sammy Sosa - Yes, Baltimore, where all roided up nutcases go to die (RIP Albert Belle) No freakin way we take on that contract at his age and with his injuries...
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Posted January 21, 2005 I decided to take a look back at these. No one correctly guessed Beltran, Martinez, Percival, or Glaus. Twenty out of 23 correctly guessed Varitek's return to the Red Sox. Cuban Linx currently holds the lead with seven correct guesses, but Deranged Hermit can tie it if the Mets sign Delgado.
MikeJordan23 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 3. Brad Radke - Minnesota 8. Jason Varitek - Boston 14. Armando Benitez - Giants 20. Moises Alou - Giants Terrible.
Mik Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 If Delgado signs with Florida - I'll have six. I can live with that.
The Man in Blak Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 Christ, I did terribly. Three picks correct, and that was with the boost of Clemens resigning with the Astros.
Bored Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 I did as little research as possible. 1. Carlos Beltran - Yankees 2. Adrian Beltre - Dodgers 3. Brad Radke - Red Sox 4. Edgar Renteria - Cardinals 5. Pedro Martinez - Red Sox 6. Carlos Delgado - Orioles 7. Magglio Ordonez - Tigers 8. Jason Varitek - Red Sox 9. Carl Pavano - Indians 10. Richie Sexson - Mariners 11. J.D. Drew - Cubs 12. Nomar Garciaparra - Angels 13. Troy Glaus - White Sox 14. Armando Benitez - Indians 15. Odalis Perez - Dodgers 16. Troy Percival - Cubs 17. Matt Clement - Rangers 18. Orlando Cabrera - Mariners 19. Jeff Kent - Astros 20. Moises Alou - Giants And for bonus points, here are five players frequently mentioned in trade talks. Are they traded, and if so, where? 1. Sammy Sosa - Mets 2. Randy Johnson - White Sox 3. Kevin Brown - Braves 4. Charles Johnson - Mariners 5. Jose Guillen - Expos/Nationals Finally, does Roger Clemens retire? No, because he's an assshole. I'll have seven if the Orioles sign Delgado.
The Man in Blak Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 Cuban Linx currently holds the lead with seven correct guesses, but Deranged Hermit can tie it if the Mets sign Delgado. Actually, if you discount his late pick of Percival, Precious Roy has seven picks as well. 4. Edgar Renteria - Red Sox 8. Jason Varitek - Red Sox 9. Carl Pavano - Yankees 11. J.D. Drew - Dodgers 14. Armando Benitez - Giants 21. Derek Lowe - The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Finally, does Roger Clemens retire? No. I decided to take a look back at these. No one correctly guessed Beltran, Martinez, Percival, or Glaus. Fucking Mets.
Bored Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 Lowe wasn't on the original list and besides he signed with the team that actually plays in L.A., the Dodgers.
The Man in Blak Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 *looks again* ...they really need to change that name back.
EVIL~! alkeiper Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Posted January 21, 2005 I didn't check the trades or Clemens yet, just the free agents.
Mik Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 I didn't check trades either. I have five going on six with just free agents alone. I got a few of the trades correct as well.
treble Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 4. Edgar Renteria - Red Sox 8. Jason Varitek - Red Sox 17. Matt Clement - Red Sox Thank God for the Red Sox.
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