Dark Age 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Lifted this idea from the Spider Twist~! message board aka airraidcrash. Seems a pretty obvious topic to do, and I haven't seen said topic around, so I'll do it. Anyway, question is simply: Best NA wrestler of all time; who is it? I guess one could make the same thread for the best wrestler - period - but I'm not the biggest puro fan ever, so alas. Anyway, we'll eventually narrow this down to a 65 man tournament (last two guys (64 and 65) "play off" for a place in the final 64). I don't know exactly HOW we'll narrow the choices down to 64 guys - maybe we could select a few judges who would pick between themselves from all of the nominations. Obviously, they'd have to have a good knowledge of North American wrestling, and any North American wrestlers. They also need to have a fucking clue what they're talking about. Anyone wants to be a judge, say so. Premise is simple: Nominate as many guys as you like (as long as they haven't already been nominated) and we'll go from there. This is judged SOLELY on wrestling ability. Not mic skills, not drawing ability, not anything. Just in-ring skills. There are a lot of guys who, once nominated, aren't really up for debate. Feel free to give reasons WHY you think wrestler A deserves a place in the last 65. It'll help us decide on wrestlers some people may not be too familiar with. There WILL be seeding once we get down to the last 65, but, again, we'll go over that when we get there. Anyway, my nominations: Bret Hart Steve Austin Vader Stan Hansen Chris Benoit Eddie Guerrero Rey Mysterio Davey Boy Smith Dynamite Kid Steve Williams British wrestlers are allowed, just because. If you have a problem with that, I don't care. Britain's America's bitch anyway, so it's ok. That'll be it for my picks - for now. I may post more later. Obviously, I've left a lot of guys out, so YOU fill in the blanks. NOMINATE AWAY~!!! (P.S. everyone post. Otherwise, shame on you) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tekcop 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 El Hijo del Santo Jerry Lawler Art Barr La Parka Bryan Danielson William Regal Sting Barry Windham Magnum TA Juventud Guerrera Some of those guys don't really belong on the list, but then some of the guys on your list don't either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 I second La Parka. I also nominate Andy Kaufman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Like who? Bulldog and DK? British wrestlers are allowed. I guess it should be NA (with Britain). My reason for allowing the Brits in was simply because, the majority, spent most of their time in North America. Granted, a lot of NA wrestlers spend their time in Japan, vice versa and a load of other places, but I think the Brits should be allowed. Rey Jnr. is debatable, but, in a judgment call, I think he qualifies due to his having SOME American in him (or at least being a citizen of it). You, on the other hand, have seemd to have entered guys with NO relation to North America - at all - just for the sake of it. As far as I know, LA Parka and Juvi don't qualify, nor does Santo. Of course, maybe I'm just mistaken on what you've said, but we'll see. Ok people, anyone who posts in here, SHOULD British wrestlers be allowed? And does Rey Jnr qualify? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 You, on the other hand, have seemd to have entered guys with NO relation to North America - at all - just for the sake of it. As far as I know, LA Parka and Juvi don't qualify, nor does Santo. Canada-USA-Mexico. That's North America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 You, on the other hand, have seemd to have entered guys with NO relation to North America - at all - just for the sake of it. As far as I know, LA Parka and Juvi don't qualify, nor does Santo. Canada-USA-Mexico. That's North America. lol @ American school systems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Raven, Johnny Devine, Christipher Daniels, AJ Styles, Hollywood Hogan Edit: Mick Foley, Chris Jericho Re-Edit: You have to include the man who's been headlining the #1 promotion for how long now? HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Ok people, anyone who posts in here, SHOULD British wrestlers be allowed? And does Rey Jnr qualify? Rey Mysterio Jr has been one of the best cruiserweights during the Monday Night Wars so he belongs on the list. Rey, Juvi, Psicosis belong on the list because they made lucha libre popular to the american public. As for the "British" wrestlers they belong if and only if they worked for WWF or WCW. Shocker Great Muta Tajiri Terry Funk Arn Anderson Tully Blandard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toshiaki Koala 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Ummm... what about RIC FLAIR? He was pretty good, as I recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Australian Pride 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Dean Malenko Shawn Michaels Tito Santana Ricky Steamboat Owen Hart Curt Hennig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Just to give the old school wrestlers a shot here. Lou Thesz Dory Funk Jr. Jack Brisco Ted DiBiase Randy Savage Verne Gagne Mike Graham Bob Backlund Ivan Koloff Johnny Valentine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Ten posts in and still no HARLEY RACE. Dick Beyer too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 I forgot about Race. I've never seen Beyer wrestle though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 I've never seen Beyer wrestle though. I've seen him wrestle once, in a 1974 match against Mil Mascaras as The Destroyer in All Japan. He's damn good on the mat, and carried Mascaras very well. The match is shockingly good, but it has a lame finish, which is typical of Mascaras's matches when he isn't winnning, where The Destroyer accidentally headbutted Mascaras in the groin off a leapfrog spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Some perhaps less obvious ones... The Rock Brian Pillman Owen Hart DDP Barry Windham Sting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho2000Mark 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2004 I've never seen Beyer wrestle though. I've seen him wrestle once, in a 1974 match against Mil Mascaras as The Destroyer in All Japan. He's damn good on the mat, and carried Mascaras very well. The match is shockingly good, but it has a lame finish, which is typical of Mascaras's matches when he isn't winnning, where The Destroyer accidentally headbutted Mascaras in the groin off a leapfrog spot. That match was way ahead of it's time. Probably the best Pre-80's match I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted November 27, 2004 I would nominate these 10....of the top of my head Terry Funk Stan Hansen Dick Beyer Harley Race Eddie Guerrero Bret Hart Chris Benoit Ted Dibiase Ric Flair Ricky Steamboat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 This belongs in Fantasy Booking, since you're apparently doing a tournament. I nominate: Chris Benoit Shawn Michaels "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert The Dark Patriot Raven Dean Malenko Chris Candido Tully Blanchard The Big Show Chris Jericho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
