Headucate me.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Again, no one's arguing their influence. I just think they're terrible.

 

As for the rest of your post, keep reachin', kid. I understand you're still reeling from the Radiohead thread, but that's no reason to continue embarassing yourself.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

And their success, no matter what anyone on this board can say, is unequaled. You have to look at where hip-hop was to where they took it.

Unequaled? Run DMC was only on top of their game for a few years. Their success plummeted rather quickly. None of their albums are generally considered classics like Biggie, Nas, or even Jay Z.

 

DMC did nothing to change hip hop. They just brought into the mainstream. Again, you're getting tripped up by the "popular" and "innovator" issue. Just because they were popular doesn't mean they transformed their genre. As far as changing hip hop, I'd lean more in the direction of NWA before Run DMC. They were massively popular because they rapped about the streets. They were genuine, something that many were able to relate to. Run DMC provided thoughtless entertainment. They just achieved a great level of success, they didn't change shit. And the same emcees would be around even had they never even recorded a song.

 

btw, you should keep being a radiohead expert because you don't know dick about anything else.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

I'd even argue that Beastie Boys/Rubin did more for rap than Run DMC in the areas given.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

I'd even argue that Beastie Boys/Rubin did more for rap than Run DMC in the areas given.

Exactly.

License to Ill was the first rap album to go number one, but I wouldn't say they changed rap.

[Nighthawk 0]

The past few posts have given me an idea for a concept rap album called Run DMX. I'll bring it along when I show up at Incandenza's apartment.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Run DMC did have an influence on NYC-based hip hop, but that's about it; even then, their influence only lasted a couple of years (unless you want to get into the rap-rock thing, but then the Beastie Boys had as much a hand in that).

 

But yeah, gangsta rap was born in '88 with Straight Outta Compton. N.W.A.'s defining moment birthed a popular genre that still exists/sells over 16 years later. Run DMC can speciously lay claim to a genre that was bastardized by the time the fucking Judgment Night soundtrack came out over a decade ago, and hasn't been about rap since, anyway.

[Myxamatosis 0]

Unequaled? Run DMC was only on top of their game for a few years.  Their success plummeted rather quickly.  None of their albums are generally considered classics like Biggie, Nas, or even Jay Z.

 

If it wasn't for them paving the way for hip-hop to be acceptable to be played on MTV, then none of those artists would've had a platform to show their skills. I agree with you that those artists are better than Run DMC, but you have to agree that without the popularity of Run DMC, they wouldn't even have a chance to succeed.

 

 

DMC did nothing to change hip hop.  They just brought into the mainstream. 

 

Exactly. Hip-hop music would still being played on street corners and block parties, not a the billion dollar business it is now.

 

Again, you're getting tripped up by the "popular" and "innovator" issue.

 

I apologize, I see them as practically the same thing. When someone brings light or attention to something on a much larger scope, I see it as being innovative.

 

Just because they were popular doesn't mean they transformed their genre.

 

Um yes, yes it does. Once again, I hate beating a dead horse, but by breaking through and becoming a success, Run DMC made hip-hop profitable in the eyes of record companies. Def Jam then became a success because of it. LL Cool J became a success. Public Enemy then had a platform from which to spring from. Young kids on the streets, like myself, saw hip-hop music as not just a way to communicate our thoughts and ideals, but as something to get us out of the ghetto. The genre was transformed.

 

As far as changing hip hop, I'd lean more in the direction of NWA before Run DMC.  They were massively popular because they rapped about the streets.

 

Yeah, because Run DMC were rapping just about cupcakes and bridal showers. That's bullshit and you know it.

 

They were genuine, something that many were able to relate to.  Run DMC provided thoughtless entertainment.

 

Thoughtless? Maybe, but they had to be doing something right considering hundreds of rappers considering them a huge influence.

 

They just achieved a great level of success, they didn't change shit.  And the same emcees would be around even had they never even recorded a song.

 

Yeah, they'd be around. They'd be around on low-level record lables, playing small clubs or street corners. Jay-Z wouldn't be a partial owner of the Nets. Biggie may still be alive. Nas wouldn't be considered the savior of modern hip-hop because hip-hop wouldn't even be worth saving.

 

btw, you should keep being a radiohead expert because you don't know dick about anything else.

 

Thanks for letting everyone know that, because you just got humilated by someone who knows nothing about music.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Man, I'm not even touching that one.

[Nighthawk 0]

It may interest you to know that Christian rap was also invented in '88, by a white guy.

 

Let's all acknowledge this: Run DMC are the Led Zeppelin of rap.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Let's just accept that y2jailbait is the worst thing to happen to the Music folder since Choken One.

[Myxamatosis 0]

Let's all acknowledge this: Run DMC are the Led Zeppelin of rap.

Explain? Interesting, but explain.

[Myxamatosis 0]

Let's just accept that y2jailbait is the worst thing to happen to the Music folder since Choken One.

And Incandenza is the most overrated, piece of shit poster in the history of message boards.

[Nighthawk 0]

But what about Kinetic?

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Everyone should list their favorite moment from the most recent y2jailbait catastrophe. Mine's either this:

 

Once again, I hate beating a dead horse, but by breaking through and becoming a success, Run DMC made hip-hop profitable in the eyes of record companies. Def Jam then became a success because of it. LL Cool J became a success. Public Enemy then had a platform from which to spring from. Young kids on the streets, like myself, saw hip-hop music as not just a way to communicate our thoughts and ideals, but as something to get us out of the ghetto. The genre was transformed.

 

or this:

 

Yeah, they'd be around. They'd be around on low-level record lables, playing small clubs or street corners. Jay-Z wouldn't be a partial owner of the Nets. Biggie may still be alive. Nas wouldn't be considered the savior of modern hip-hop because hip-hop wouldn't even be worth saving.

 

EDIT: I put in bold my favoritest parts !

[Nighthawk 0]

Let's all acknowledge this: Run DMC are the Led Zeppelin of rap.

Explain? Interesting, but explain.

They are almost universally hailed as Jesus Christs within their genre, yet they suddenly arrive and are sold to us like Star Wars or Matthew McConaughey, without particularly doing anything to earn such status. I don't particularly care for either, and I can understand an active dislike because they are average artists ascended to godhood on the basis of a public opinion which came from... where? They also admittedly carried some influence and had one huge memorable hit song.

 

In short:

The most overrated groups, while far from the worst, appear to be so in counterance to said overration.

[Myxamatosis 0]

Wow, another worthless post from Incandenza.

 

Not surprising at all.

 

By the way, my favorite Jailbait moment was when Incandenza tries to use his "message board popularity" to cover up for his lack of knowledge on the subject. That one kicked ass!

[Myxamatosis 0]

In short:

The most overrated groups, while far from the worst, appear to be so in counterance to said overration.

Hey, I can live with that.

 

Goodnight everybody!

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

Yeah Inc.

 

Stop using facts to prove your point.

 

And post your Swordfish Trombones link.

 

And play Marbles.

 

Bitch.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Yeah Inc.

 

Stop using facts to prove your point.

 

And post your Swordfish Trombones link.

 

And play Marbles.

 

Bitch.

http://stream.unf.edu:8080/ramgen/wosp/wosp.smil

 

9pm, EST.

[Nighthawk 0]

Once again, IDRM proves to be beyond argument.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

Once again, IDRM proves to be beyond argument.

I disagree.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

y2jailbait should listen to my show. He might learn something!

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

Also, I find it great that Banky spent part of his birthday arguing that Run DMC weren't that good.

 

Living the dream!

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

y2jailbait should listen to my show. He might learn something!

Can you give me a playlist so I can bung it on slsk tomorro?

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Hey, I'll post it prior to showtime, so no one will be curious over what's what while it's playing.

[Myxamatosis 0]

By the way, I apologize Special K.

 

I recommend Mos Def: Black on Both Sides, Blackstar, Common: Like Water for Chocolate, Dead Prez or Geto Boys.

[Guest Brian]

Of what hasn't been mentioned:

 

Talib Kweli "Reflection Eternal"

And both Revolutionary Vol. I and II by Immortal Technique

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Oh, hey, it looks like my show won't be starting until 10pm.

[Henry Spencer 0]

God damn, Real Player is such a pain in the ass.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

I posted the playlist in IDRM's thread, so you can see what you're missing.