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Will Cartoon Network get in trouble?

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Guest CronoT

Tonight, CN aired the movie Antz, appearently unedited. The movie received a PG rating when it was released, for violence and language.

 

There was a lot of violence: beatings, death threats, a few deaths. As far as the language content goes, I noted these incidents: damn, damnit, crap twice, and hell.

 

Now, this isn't TBS, or TNT, or USA. This is CARTOON FREAKING NETWORK. You just know there's going to be some backlash from this. What do you all think?

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I want to call you an idiot, but I'll be nice.

 

When was the movie aired? You leave this out. I'm guessing between 7-10 pm.

 

There's nothing offensive mentioned that would warrant the movie getting backlash, or, for that matter, being rated over a "PG" rating.

 

Give up. I answered everything for you. Methinks your dog died or something and you're being overly emotional.

 

Oh, and by "DEATHS", do you mean alien bodies were killed? No, ok because Clone Wars had this. Do you mean HUMANS? No, ok because Family Guy has this all the time. I see, you meant...

 

THE DEATH OF CARTOON ANTS.

 

I am calling my local cable company right now.

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Thank you Michael Powell (referencing Crono). Guess you haven't heard of Adult Swim?

 

If anything, people should complain to CN for airing such a shitty movie.

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Well, even though it sounds pathetic, there probably will be some complaints from parents, just because it's a kids movie and some people will complain about anything. But will CN get in trouble? No, because the FCC can't regulate cable networks.

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Well, even though it sounds pathetic, there probably will be some complaints from parents, just because it's a kids movie and some people will complain about anything. But will CN get in trouble? No, because the FCC can't regulate cable networks.

 

How would they get in trouble. Cartoon Network didn't add any scenes to the movie, they just aired it. Besides that I'm pretty sure Cartoon Network isn't just for kids anymore. With the addition of Adult Swim, i'm sure CN is ment for all ages.

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Well, I certainly don't think that the FCC would do anything even if they could. I'm just saying that there's no chance of it at all because they only have power over broadcast stations.

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Guest El Satanico

FCC can't do shit to Cable...yet

 

The only thing that keeps Cable from going nuts and showing anything they want, are the sponsors. The sponsors keep Cable networks in check.

 

I doubt the FCC would even care about damn crap and hell. Maybe some mormons will be offended, but no one listens to them.

 

Antz was on at 8 and PG should never need to be edited for content.

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Guest The Shadow Behind You

If they don't get in trouble for their Adult Swim stuff, which I don't watch because well...Why? but I know it's quite raunchy for "cartoons".

 

How are they getting in trouble for a Cartoon that was even aired on ABC a couple times. being rated pg isn't going to cause a fine.

 

Cartoon Network is hardly a kids channel anymore. It's designed for College Kids and nerdy high schoolers now who have nothing better to do.

 

Hell, most of us grew up on PowerRangers and LooneyTunes where it was quite violent and graphic and yet no one really save for the hardcorest of hardcore right protested it.

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Guest HHH123007

Yeah, they've said "shit" a couple times on AS.....I somehow think that's a bit more severe than showing Antz uncut.

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Guest El Satanico

The majority of CN programming is still kid friendly, which is why Antz was shown. In fact the week day afternoon programming block is now more kid based than it was before Adult Swim. The afternoon block, use to be more for us kids of the 80's, and now it's stuff like Totally Spies.

 

The College kids/young adults stuff starts at 11 PM and runs till 5 AM.

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Well, even though it sounds pathetic, there probably will be some complaints from parents, just because it's a kids movie and some people will complain about anything. But will CN get in trouble? No, because the FCC can't regulate cable networks.

Enjoy it while it lasts..

:angry:

Wired Magazine Article

But the FCC bureaucracy may try to survive by expanding its jurisdiction to encompass the alternatives -- cable TV, satellite TV and radio, maybe even the internet. Earlier this year, a Senate committee barely rejected a plan by Louisiana Sen. John Breaux, a Democrat, to allow the FCC to oversee some cable programming.

 

Breaux is retiring, but he's being replaced by a Republican, and the November election sent several new conservatives to the Senate. The House remains firmly in Republican hands, and the president is hardly a friend of shock jock Stern.

 

The Cato Institute's Thierer expects the new Congress to tackle the cable issue once again, and no one should expect the Democrats to put up resistance. "Speech controls are now more of a bipartisan issue, apparently," he said. "It's clear to me that a lot of people in Congress have few problems regulating speech in the media today."

 

Thierer thinks indecency-obsessed politicians will be careful, though. He predicts that while they would target cable television -- home to raunchy shows like South Park, which used the S-word 162 times in a single 2001 episode -- they will stay away from premium channels like HBO. When it comes to basic cable, he said, it's easier to use the argument that it's "pervasive" like broadcast television -- in other words, difficult for children to avoid.

 

There is a difference, of course. Broadcast television and radio are free and come uninvited into homes. Courts won't fail to notice that Americans shell out billions of dollars a year on cable, satellite TV and now satellite radio.

 

There's another potential stumbling block for the censors. The Supreme Court has balked at whittling away free-speech rights. "I wouldn't say that the courts have been all that conservative on this stuff," Schwartzman said. "The courts have been pretty good on these speech issues."

 

And I wouldn't expect the Supreme Court to remain friendly to free speech after you know who is done altering it to his liking over the next 4 years..

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I'm sure they may get a letter or two from Middle America, but they probably do with anything they air.

 

So my answer is, no.

 

I answered everything for you. Methinks your dog died or something and you're being overly emotional.

 

No, but my one kitty died yesterday... :(

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Mucha Lucha sucks, and so do you. BRING BACK ULTIMATE MUSCLE!

 

Antz was decent for what it was. The only really amusing part was the main character's psycho-analysis in the early parts of the movie, and the bees too.

 

Re: FCC

Fuck the FCC. I pay for my cable, I pay for my internet, and I'm not letting you tell me what I can and cannot see on something I'm shelling out my hard-earned dollars for.

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Guest LooneyTune

TV Land still runs episodes of All In The Family where Archie says "God Damn", George Jefferson says "Nigger", and we hear all sorts of racist comments, yet the show is rated TV PG. Antz says "damn" wow...what a horrible word.

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Yes, it does. It is bizarre unintelligible shit. UM is much more about wrestling than that show.

Has Ultimate Muscle ever done a show about how to get cheap heat?

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So does CN EVER show Looney Tunes now? I think they even dropped the June Bugs marathon.

 

I can't really get into any of the cartoons today. Give me the classics, mofos. I want to see Daffy's bill blown off after Bugs intellectually bitchslaps him once again.

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I think that CronoT and his initial post are the result of the type of overprotection which parents and politicians seem to think is so beneficial to children ("Mommy, I saw bad stuff on TV that I wasn't supposed to!")

 

As for the FCC regulating everything under the sun, Frank Zappa said it best (although he said this about the PMRC in the mid-80's, it applies very much to today's situation):

 

"[The FCC's] proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal's design.

 

It is my understanding that in law First Amendment issues are decided with a preference for the least restrictive alternative. In this context, the [potential FCC] demands are the equivalent of treating dandruff by decapitation."

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Guest El Satanico

CN still shows Tom and Jerry and old Scooby Doos during the week. Other old stuff still shows up from time to time.

 

It doesn't matter to me, because I get Boomerang. I can put myself into Hanna-Barbara heaven whenever I want.

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Remember this is the network that censored DBZ to edited out blood, Mr. Satan and HELL.

Wrong

 

It was the animation company who imported DBZ (don't remember the name) that censored it

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